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Old October 31st, 2014, 05:12 AM   #4661
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That`s what I tried to explain: The city's Design Committee is fighting against it!
The major who put modernists in there claims nothing to do with that committee. His voters, among many jung people tried to put him to reason.
I don`t like it, but I have to tell an interesting true story.!?!?
Kafka couldn't compose a work of fiction half as convoluted and mind-numbing as that!
Where does this committee get its power?
Why would they behave towards the citizens with such arrogance?

WHEN CAN DRESDNERS VOTE FOR SOMEONE ELSE?
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Old November 1st, 2014, 08:09 PM   #4662
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I was just looking at the Neustadt on google maps and it strikes me that it is very well preserved

Just some areas near the Innere Neustadt are new

If the Innere Neustadt was rebuilt a bit (just a few bits) and more areas around the Neumarkt were rebuilt, Dresden would really be a top tier city.
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Old November 2nd, 2014, 02:19 PM   #4663
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If the Innere Neustadt was rebuilt a bit (just a few bits) and more areas around the Neumarkt were rebuilt, Dresden would really be a top tier city.
I cannot agree more. It's also a pity that the buildings in the start of Hauptstrasse is not recreated. Think there was a town hall there or something similar.
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Old November 3rd, 2014, 11:56 PM   #4664
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It strikes me that the Altmarkt buildings are structurally similar to the proper originals of the Neumarkt. If in a fit of sanity the modern planners/architects
realised that the older stuff looks best surely it wouldn't be too expensive to transform the Altmarkt?
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Old November 4th, 2014, 11:24 PM   #4665
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It strikes me that the Altmarkt buildings are structurally similar to the proper originals of the Neumarkt. If in a fit of sanity the modern planners/architects
realised that the older stuff looks best surely it wouldn't be too expensive to transform the Altmarkt?

That is a dream. A nice dream, but see the earlier post by The Eagle concerning the attitude and agenda of the Dresden mayor and planning committee, and ... dream on.

In other words, not when these clowns are running the circus
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Old November 9th, 2014, 03:45 PM   #4666
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Old November 9th, 2014, 03:47 PM   #4667
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人は何かの犠牲なしに何も得ることはできない。何かを得るためには同等の代価が必要になる。それが、生活における等価交換の原則だ。その頃僕らは、それが世界の真実だと信じていた。時間は、最も貴重な資源である。だから、誰の時間もあなたは無駄にしてはいけないし、誰もが他の人の時間を無駄にしないでください。
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Old November 12th, 2014, 01:13 AM   #4668
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That is a dream. A nice dream, but see the earlier post by The Eagle concerning the attitude and agenda of the Dresden mayor and planning committee, and ... dream on.

In other words, not when these clowns are running the circus
Clearly some new clowns need to be auditioned for this particular circus.
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Old November 12th, 2014, 07:14 PM   #4669
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We live in the first nihilist, materialist age in world history. It cannot produce anything beautiful or profound because it does not accept transcendent reality. Even beauty is no longer seen as something to be revealed - rather it is seen as something subjective and relativist.
You're saying about this nihilist materialist age, in which relatively poor, modest East-German city is spending millions of euros to recreate former beauty of 17th century Old Town?
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Well, even poorer Poles did the same with there cities...Culture-nations just do those things.
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Old November 13th, 2014, 09:48 PM   #4671
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The City (which unlike most other large cities in Germany has no or little debts) doesn't spend that much money on these projects. The reconstruction of the Residenzschloß is financed by the Saxon state an the Bund. The quarters around the Neumarkt are private investions.
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Well, even poorer Poles did the same with there cities...Culture-nations just do those things.
Reconstruction program in Poland 1945-60 is one of perks of totalitarian state which wants to show off and engages all means to achieve one goal. Additionally, it was caused by gargantuic wave of enthusiasm coming from traumatic war experience and typical Polish perversity aimed against Nazis, who'd wanted to eradicate the Polish nation with its culture per se. To make it short: war, trauma + Communism.

I wouldn't wish those preconditions to my worst enemy, not to mention Dresden, which I like

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The City (which unlike most other large cities in Germany has no or little debts) doesn't spend that much money on these projects. The reconstruction of the Residenzschloß is financed by the Saxon state an the Bund. The quarters around the Neumarkt are private investions.
Even so, the money doesn't grow on trees. Not to mention that Saxonia is far from Bavarian welfare Remember, you're Ossi
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Of course not. But Dresden is growing kinda fast so investions would take place anyway. And when you look at Munich or Vienna, you'll see that south german welfare does not produce good architecture or protect historic buildings.
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Old November 14th, 2014, 06:28 PM   #4674
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Will this old cellar be incorporated into new building? I see that they didnt remove it from the site, so it must be part of the building reconstruction...
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Yes, the remaining cellar belongs to the Dinglinger Haus.
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Of course not. But Dresden is growing kinda fast so investions would take place anyway. And when you look at Munich or Vienna, you'll see that south german welfare does not produce good architecture or protect historic buildings.
Munich wasn't destroyed as much as Dresden in 1939-45, perhaps that's the explanation.
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Looking at the inner old towns, I actually don't see much difference in the grade of destruction.
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Fun fact:This is the house from a story like Romeo and Juliet!
Minus the self murder and minus the Shacked Beer part! Frederick Augustus I the Great from 1694 to 1733 was fascinated with Arabic and Ottoman Empire. He had a concubine from the Ottoman. Her name was Fatima. After a couple of years she managed to get her own home from him. This building shown here was the home Fatima become commissioned 1715 from Augustus the I.
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Looking at the inner old towns, I actually don't see much difference in the grade of destruction.
Munich reported 20 to 25%. I thought in Dresden there was more.

Btw, perhaps you know (I haven't found the answer in this thread): do they use Canaletto (Bellotto) paintings as sources for Dresden's reconstruction?
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Munich reported 20 to 25%. I thought in Dresden there was more.

Btw, perhaps you know (I haven't found the answer in this thread): do they use Canaletto (Bellotto) paintings as sources for Dresden's reconstruction?
No, not much. We have plans and drawings from the original Constructions!
Canaletto is used sometimes to verify the changes of buildings over time.
Every building was photographed before the war!
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