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Old July 8th, 2015, 10:41 PM   #5021
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Any information on the above scene? I think it's a view southish from the tower of the Rathausturm. Are there any pre-war photos of this view? Is the area featured likely to undergo any reconstruction? Hard to tell much about what the buildings looked like before their ruination in the bombing from the top picture alone...
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Old July 9th, 2015, 06:11 AM   #5022
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This is looking toward the southeast, with Pirnaischer Platz visible at extreme left center in the bottom photo. Except for the statue, I'm not seeing a single point of comparison between the two photos.
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Old July 9th, 2015, 12:01 PM   #5023
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There was nothing left after clearing the rubble. The builidng in the background is the central station. The building with the white roof in the second picture above.

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Old July 9th, 2015, 03:20 PM   #5024
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Destroyed by Poles, there was nothing left
It's a beautiful reconstruction, but your comments are not true.

During the Battle of Berlin, both castles were levelled and all four bridges across the Neisse were razed. The von Arnims were dispossessed by the Soviet Military Administration in Germany and since the implementation of the Oder-Neisse line in 1945, the park has been divided by the state border between Poland and Germany, with two thirds of it on the Polish side. Not until the 1960s did the authorities gradually accept the legacy of the "Junker" Prince Pückler.

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Old July 9th, 2015, 10:19 PM   #5025
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It's a beautiful reconstruction, but your comments are not true.

During the Battle of Berlin, both castles were levelled and all four bridges across the Neisse were razed. The von Arnims were dispossessed by the Soviet Military Administration in Germany and since the implementation of the Oder-Neisse line in 1945, the park has been divided by the state border between Poland and Germany, with two thirds of it on the Polish side. Not until the 1960s did the authorities gradually accept the legacy of the "Junker" Prince Pückler.

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Yes, by Polish units during the Battle of Berlin. I can find out the names the two units.
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Old July 10th, 2015, 04:18 PM   #5026
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There was nothing left after clearing the rubble. The builidng in the background is the central station. The building with the white roof in the second picture above.

What is that little monument to the center left at the intersection?
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Old July 10th, 2015, 06:00 PM   #5027
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It is the Gänsediebbrunnen (sth. like "geese thief fountain" in English). The square is called Ferdinandplatz. The fountain is now at the Weiße Gasse the part of Altstadt which was reconstructed in the 50s and early 60s.



https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...gen_Ruinen.jpg


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...ebbrunnen1.JPG
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Old July 10th, 2015, 06:01 PM   #5028
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It's a beautiful reconstruction, but your comments are not true.

During the Battle of Berlin, both castles were levelled and all four bridges across the Neisse were razed. The von Arnims were dispossessed by the Soviet Military Administration in Germany and since the implementation of the Oder-Neisse line in 1945, the park has been divided by the state border between Poland and Germany, with two thirds of it on the Polish side. Not until the 1960s did the authorities gradually accept the legacy of the "Junker" Prince Pückler.

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Only very, very gradually, because the park was more or less gone on the Polish side in the late 1980s.
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Old July 10th, 2015, 08:41 PM   #5029
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Only very, very gradually, because the park was more or less gone on the Polish side in the late 1980s.
Oh I don't doubt that the Polish side was degraded.

I looked into this and the two buildings on the Polish side that formed part of the landscape concept were demolished in the 1970's. Eventually, the landscape elements of the park were reforested. In the Soviet-installed socialist regime in Poland, there was little appetite for maintaining a bourgeois estate on the frontier of the country. Still does not point to the "Polish" units destroying the New Castle as suggested elsewhere.
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Old July 10th, 2015, 10:30 PM   #5030
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Great news!!

Regarding the old city, last time I was in Dresden, I took this two pictures from the Busmannkapelle:


This Busmannkapelle, was supposed to be the partial reconstruction of this:


However, what was going to be build was only this:


Anyone knows what is the progress of this? As it is located in the old city, I guess it should have a good process as the rest of the Altstadt. Anyone has news?
Answer to my own question, here it is the actual state of this strange reconstruction:


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Old July 10th, 2015, 11:32 PM   #5031
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This looks awful now with this roof, i really hope its temporary
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Old July 11th, 2015, 02:18 AM   #5032
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Better to plant some trees and hold hope that there will be be a ground swell of support for a more appropriate reconstruction or memorial.
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Old July 12th, 2015, 02:59 AM   #5033
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Any information on the above scene? I think it's a view southish from the tower of the Rathausturm. Are there any pre-war photos of this view? Is the area featured likely to undergo any reconstruction? Hard to tell much about what the buildings looked like before their ruination in the bombing from the top picture alone...
I have often seen the top photo but this is the first time I have seen the same view now. Wow
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Old July 12th, 2015, 03:10 AM   #5034
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Pathetic, isn't it? From a truly beautiful city to a wasteland. War and communism are bitches.
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Old July 12th, 2015, 06:15 AM   #5035
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And finally today: Schloss Muskau


The driveway

The park

The court

look at the roof!

The older schloss

The .... wow


From the pond

pics from potsdam-fan
Looks like Disneyland.
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Old July 12th, 2015, 12:31 PM   #5036
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I agree, proportions look slightly off. Perhaps a few years of weathering will improve it.
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Old July 12th, 2015, 01:43 PM   #5037
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What does this Musau building doing in the Dresden Neumarkt department??
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Any information on the above scene? I think it's a view southish from the tower of the Rathausturm. Are there any pre-war photos of this view? Is the area featured likely to undergo any reconstruction? Hard to tell much about what the buildings looked like before their ruination in the bombing from the top picture alone...
I see the potential here Even if Dresden lacks of precise information regarding pre-war buidings, always there is possibility to re-create city fabric (and former division of area for small 19th century plots of land) with contemporary architecture, such as the "in-fills", which are being build now in Frankfurt a. M.
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Old July 13th, 2015, 02:51 AM   #5039
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They maybe recreate the streets as far as possible and useful considering the new Prager Straße, but don't expect big jumps or any reconstructions there in the near future.
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I agree, proportions look slightly off. Perhaps a few years of weathering will improve it.
This post does not make much sense. Firstly, the proportions are not slightly off, because it is a 100% reconstruction of the exterior like it was built in the 19th century, and back then they knew, what they were doing. Secondly, how will weathering improve bad proportions with time? (Towers and walls crumbling down?) Last but not least, what does Muskau Palace have to do with Dresden's Neumarkt?
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