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Old July 30th, 2015, 01:01 PM   #5101
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Well, I like the bubble. It's one of the few examples where contrasts look great.
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Old July 30th, 2015, 02:42 PM   #5102
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The bubble wasn't intended to be an exterior design feature, rather a means to provide protected natural lighting for the interior courtyard that previously was open air. Personally, I think the open air courtyard would have been preferred, however, from sports stadiums to castle courtyards, the spoiled populations of the 21st century don't want to be too warm, too cool, or too wet. Too bad.
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Old July 30th, 2015, 03:30 PM   #5103
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Also, I don't think anyone here wants Dresden to be exactly as it was before 1945. Many old buildings were in a bad shape, city center was probably overpopulated and heavily polluted (as in many other European old towns). I want those old buildings that were destroyed in war, and I want them ALL, but also, I want them to be adjusted to our time and need. In long term, I think that would not be such a big problem.
The old formula seems to work quite well in Praha ....
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Old July 30th, 2015, 04:40 PM   #5104
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The old formula seems to work quite well in Praha ....
Yeah, but Prague was not destroyed. If it was up to me, I would reconstruct the exterior of the buildings, but only significant buildings like palaces, churches etc. would have an original interior. You can't expect that someone will buy an apartment that looks like it's from 1700s.
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Old July 30th, 2015, 04:46 PM   #5105
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The bubble wasn't intended to be an exterior design feature, rather a means to provide protected natural lighting for the interior courtyard that previously was open air. Personally, I think the open air courtyard would have been preferred, however, from sports stadiums to castle courtyards, the spoiled populations of the 21st century don't want to be too warm, too cool, or too wet. Too bad.
Well, as much as I agree with you about the spoilt population(it's also getting fatter and fatter...), I have to add that this is a classic example of ´form follows function´. One of the greatest principles of traditional architecture.(even though the modernists degraded it to meaning just rectangles an asymmetric buildings.)
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Old July 30th, 2015, 07:38 PM   #5106
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There should be a rule which prevents modernist additions such as that 'bubble' thing being added onto classical-styled buildings.
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Old July 30th, 2015, 08:47 PM   #5107
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Form definitely doesn't follow function in Baroque architecture. Not unless decorativeness is a function in its own right. All those scrolls, volutes, statues, escutcheons, pillasters, putti, swags, seashells etc. (and fancy ballustrades around inaccessible rooftops), served little or no function other than to look splendid.

It's a deceitful conceit of 'modernists' that they adhered to the principle of form following function, anyway. If that were really the case they would have been more sympathetic to pitched rather than flat roofs in climates prone to rain and snow, such as Northern Europe! They would have retained caps over windows, which had a practical, protective function. Such things were not stripped away because they were functionless but because they interfered with a bare, boxy style being favoured.
So-called 'modernism' is, or was a style, also identifiable in the entirely unfunctional visual arts. It is a mere style, masquerading as a rational philosophy- and a rather antiquated style at that. A knock-off of Mies Van der Rohe is in no meaningful sense 'modern', and is just as much a recreation of a historical style as an exercise in Neoclassicism or the Gothic Revival would be. The only difference is that the classical and Gothic styles have stood the test of time rather better. Also there is hardly more scope for originality within the 'modernist' style than there is within the more traditional ones, hence the international uniformity of the works of so-called 'modernists'. In fact the ornanent-phobia restricts possibilities.
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Old July 30th, 2015, 10:46 PM   #5108
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Anti Non-Ornamental Movement.
I was trying to think of a word for 'modernism' that would be more accurate and that wouldn't grant the inherently propagandistic claim to the modern or contemporary (which implied that all other styles are somehow obsolete).

The Non-Ornament Movement is a good alternative name for the style.

Ornamentophobia?

The Boxophile movement?
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Old July 31st, 2015, 12:04 PM   #5109
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Form definitely doesn't follow function in Baroque architecture. Not unless decorativeness is a function in its own right. All those scrolls, volutes, statues, escutcheons, pillasters, putti, swags, seashells etc. (and fancy ballustrades around inaccessible rooftops), served little or no function other than to look splendid.
Well, I think representation is a function in its own right. Or would you call the Queen functionless?
ad modernists and ´form follows function´: They did indeed not adhere to it a lot of times, but thats mostly because of the dreadful international style that seeked to do away with all the differences that make up the character of cities. Contemporary vernacular(and thats what I'm mostly interested in, Monuments get boring after some time) does often include elements that serve a function and look good.
What I find important is that one should not use too many different materials. Usually, Brick, Wood, Glass, Copper/Zinc, Steel, Plaster and Concrete should suffice.(plus insulation material, but that should better be organic or mineral)
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Old July 31st, 2015, 02:56 PM   #5110
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Old July 31st, 2015, 05:23 PM   #5111
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He's referring to canine droppings such as these...









Cainine droppings indeed, all over a beautiful mosaic pavement. Still I'm 95% delighted with the rebuilding project, and everything that has been done in the past decade or so.
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Old August 2nd, 2015, 11:26 AM   #5112
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FREITAG, 31. JULI 2015 Neumarkt | Frieseneck















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Old August 2nd, 2015, 11:28 AM   #5113
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MITTWOCH, 29. JULI 2015 Neumarkt | Quartier VII



















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Old August 8th, 2015, 09:52 PM   #5114
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I look at these pictures of the Neumarkt and I have to remind myself that it was a parking lot not that long ago.
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I miss Erbse and his knowledgeable, insightful, and sometimes tart comments. I wish he would come back.
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Old August 11th, 2015, 07:40 PM   #5116
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At Dresdner Neumarkt one of the last major vacant lots get closed in the coming years. The CG group wants to complete the Quartier III / 2. On Friday afternoon, the company plans to present his plans to the people of Dresden.

From 17 clock, an information event situates at Hotel Suitess near the Neumarkt, so the CG Group, which wants to build on the Post Place and in the Friedrich-city next to the Neumarkt-Quartier. "It is particularly important to us that the citizens of Dresden and all the neighbors of the property are extensively informed by the planning and procedural status of this important project," says Christoph Gröner, managing partner of the CG Group. "













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Old August 11th, 2015, 10:58 PM   #5117
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Imagine the whole city looking like that.

I hope they will completely reconstruct it, I just can't stand any new postmodern crap on that square.
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Old August 12th, 2015, 11:10 AM   #5118
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The render looks like it says something about a garden, it will be public? There are renders?
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Old August 12th, 2015, 03:10 PM   #5119
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The render looks like it says something about a garden, it will be public? There are renders?
Also, the Palais Hoym is always the featured and spotlighted structure of this quartier, but there are several other buildings that make up the entire area...and by placement, actually have a great impact on the street level views. Does there remain a commitment to the plan to reconstruct the other houses in historic fashion?
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Old August 14th, 2015, 08:36 PM   #5120
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Are there any news from the information event that took place this afternoon?
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