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Old June 2nd, 2016, 09:53 PM   #5441
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Thank you, Mr. Nöfer!!

This is the first modern building of the square that's actually trying to fit with the reconstructed ones, and it definitely succeeds, although I don't understand why they wouldn't go with the fully reconstructed one. I guess you can't have everything...
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Old June 2nd, 2016, 10:39 PM   #5442
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just tried to link a video but didnt work...anyway i really like the new facade!

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Old June 3rd, 2016, 10:52 AM   #5443
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thank God that they wont make that first building. This is much better.
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 11:19 PM   #5444
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thank God that they wont make that first building. This is much better.
I agree.
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Old June 7th, 2016, 01:04 AM   #5445
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That Nofer building is exactly the kind of infill that is needed when new buildings are put in with the recreations. This is classic. It would not be mistaken for an old building but yet it works so well with the baroque. Thank GOD that first proposal was not built!
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Old June 8th, 2016, 12:23 AM   #5446
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Yes, but it still bad compared to what was possible.
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Old June 8th, 2016, 07:30 AM   #5447
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Guys, we can call ourselves very lucky! We all knew there was going to be no reconstruction of Palais Riesch in Rampische Straße and the first planned modern interpretation was a mess and a disgrace to the surroundings...



I wish this shitty un-Vitruvian architectural trend would end. It's a cancer. If it's uglier than what was there before, what the hell is point of rebuilding?
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Old June 9th, 2016, 06:46 AM   #5448
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My Dead Horse

Politically, I am left-of-center. Culturally, I am purposefully inclusive.
Philosophically, I am a empiricist, to paint it in as broad a stroke as I can.
Regarding art, science, history, and their kin, I am open and curious.
I will readily adjust my beliefs when presented with compelling evidence.
I admit it: I'm a progressive, democratic socialist, secular humanist liberal.

But, when it comes to architecture and restoration/reconstruction, I must be a tweedy old pipe-sucking, armchair conservative.

Particularly here. Modern doesn't belong here. I am gobsmacked that such a symbolic, massive reconstruction project would be bungled, and gaps filled with rash expedience, with perhaps otherwise tasteful, but contextually inappropriate designs diluting the project. There is no reason whatsoever to NOT build--at least the facades--of these structures in either a historically accurate manner, with or similar structures using traditional methods, proportions, etc. A stellar example of this would be the 1913 addition to the Landaus, which I noted for this same quality in a discussion of the Frieseneck mediocrity.

As a footnote, I am amused to think that the modernist architects and city planners who are diminishing this project likely have similar political beliefs as do I.
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Old June 9th, 2016, 03:24 PM   #5449
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Architecture IS art and if one is open and curious, the "contextually inappropriate" designs we see in the Neumarkt are actually progressively purposed to move culture, and art, forward.

That's why your assumption that the architects in control of this project may have your social/political views is likely correct. When led by progressivist ideology, there are few exceptions, such as your feelings about the neumarkt, that alter the main thrust of the globalist movement. As such, we will continue to eke out bits and pieces of historically important reconstructions, but expectations that go beyond patronizing-level attention to reconstruction principles and hopes, are sure to be a disappointment.
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Old June 11th, 2016, 02:24 PM   #5450
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Old June 11th, 2016, 07:14 PM   #5451
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In the last Bauticker with the Pictures above you can find something more from Rathaus, Dinglingerhaus, Postlplatz, Robotron and so on. Also new: five Panos in the Landhausstraße with Frieseneck. Here a Link to one of the Panos in the Landhausstraße

And - Arstempano have now a new Design and its possible to lock of the Website with smartphones etc!





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Old June 15th, 2016, 01:55 AM   #5452
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[QUOTE=SonOfThomp;133321439]Politically, I am left-of-center. Culturally, I am purposefully inclusive.
Philosophically, I am a empiricist, to paint it in as broad a stroke as I can.
Regarding art, science, history, and their kin, I am open and curious.
I will readily adjust my beliefs when presented with compelling evidence.
I admit it: I'm a progressive, democratic socialist, secular humanist liberal.

But, when it comes to architecture and restoration/reconstruction, I must be a tweedy old pipe-sucking, armchair conservative.

Perhaps you will come around if you are a true "classical liberal" and not merely a leftist. Its not that big a philosophical leap to say that some tried and true things should be maintained and preserved both architecturally and politically.
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Old June 16th, 2016, 06:37 AM   #5453
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Perhaps you will come around if you are a true "classical liberal" and not merely a leftist. Its not that big a philosophical leap to say that some tried and true things should be maintained and preserved both architecturally and politically.
Not all that was should still be. As you said, "some tried and true things...". Progressivism is the engine that dragged us out of the medieval mindset and into the Age of Enlightenment, to which many of these masterpieces belong.
We cheer at the reconstruction of Baroque architecture, but wouldn't likely care for it if we were subjected to laws and cultural norms of the era.

So, we keep the art from the past, and move forward with human progress.
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Old June 16th, 2016, 03:31 PM   #5454
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most of the post war downtown in Dresden should of been destroyed and rebuild as it was supposed to be.
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Old June 16th, 2016, 06:58 PM   #5455
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Not all that was should still be. As you said, "some tried and true things...". Progressivism is the engine that dragged us out of the medieval mindset and into the Age of Enlightenment, to which many of these masterpieces belong.
We cheer at the reconstruction of Baroque architecture, but wouldn't likely care for it if we were subjected to laws and cultural norms of the era.

So, we keep the art from the past, and move forward with human progress.
Architecture and politics are two different things. Of course we can build old styles and still be enlightened =) Don't you think you can play jazz and dance swing too in the 21 century?
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Old June 16th, 2016, 07:51 PM   #5456
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most of the post war downtown in Dresden should of been destroyed and rebuild as it was supposed to be.
I agree. Everything north of Johann-Strasse should be restored.The modern stuff, outside that area. It is anachronistic around the Neumarkt area.
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Old June 16th, 2016, 11:02 PM   #5457
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Have something for everyone!








The sandstone cladding starts here, too!


The Trierische house


In the middle the "Reichs Apfel" slightly sideways. It`s the symbol of power. Kaiser only!

thanks, bilderbuch!
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Old June 18th, 2016, 08:23 PM   #5458
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Now you have a newgalery of Arstempano with over 30 normal Panorampictures from the Neumarkt. Under the Picture you have the Link for the Panotour. Here are two examples.



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Old June 21st, 2016, 12:42 AM   #5459
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Wow, a ton of progress since last time I checked ssc a few months ago, looking good.
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Old June 21st, 2016, 09:18 PM   #5460
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Dinglerhaus, Jüdenhof

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