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Old July 20th, 2016, 04:03 PM   #5521
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Clarification of terms please....

Are you referring to "traditional" architecture as any style of building as long as the structure is rebuild with the appearance of the pre 1945 property?
In this context, a reconstruction, but I usually use the term for something inspired by any older architectural style or that looks like an old building, I maybe could've used a better term there.

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Well, then you won't be a fan of this upcoming building, the "Au Petit Bazar":



What you might dislike even more, that it too will be some sort of fantasy product. Some people already got information that Günter Blobel, who is going to build this house as a private investor, does not intend to make a faithful reconstruction. He will apparently make changes to it's height, storeys and roof. There's unfortunately no visualization yet.
It's not that I oppose any building that is not Baroque to be built here, after all, the square was there ever since the medieval times, I just don't like when they mess with the exterior so much. I mean, that's why reconstructions are still not very welcome in architectural world, buildings like that can easily be viewed as pastiches or something. Adjust the interior, but don't mess with the exterior.

Regarding "Au Petit Bazar", I like it because I think it breaks the uniformity of the whole block of simple Baroque buildings, but it's not screaming for attention. It feels perfect for that place, and also, it was built by Semper, it can't be bad.
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Old July 28th, 2016, 04:16 PM   #5522
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A PDF by Nöfer Architects, which shows and describes the New Classical design for Neues Palais Riesch at QIII/2:

http://www.noefer.de/assets/Uploads/...ais-Riesch.pdf



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Old July 28th, 2016, 08:55 PM   #5523
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This addition to the Landaus was built in 1913. 'Filler' designs could follow this formula with a clear conscience.

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Old August 9th, 2016, 03:51 PM   #5524
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Old August 9th, 2016, 06:20 PM   #5526
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I can't understand how someone could actually present that as a serious design, especially in the context of this area.

This looks like a parking garage.
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Old August 9th, 2016, 07:57 PM   #5527
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Landhaus. König-Johann-Straße




Schiessgasse.Polizeipräsidium on the left side of the picture




Landhausstraße in 1885. Palais Brühl (Schießgasse 10) on the right




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Landhausstraße 13 "Alte Post". View from the Friesengasse




Landhausstraße 11 . Palais Hoym. View from the Friesengasse




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Old August 10th, 2016, 02:06 AM   #5529
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Old August 10th, 2016, 04:32 PM   #5530
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the big red letters V A R P I A N O are a horrible assault on the meticulously designed Dinglingerhaus. And they put the name on TWICE! After all this effort, has Dresden no guidelines on how the commercial signage should be treated?
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Old August 10th, 2016, 07:32 PM   #5531
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There's nothing horrible about it. It makes the place seem more like a lively townsquare instead of a sterile exhibition. If you look at the old pictures, there's much more advertising. Nowadays it's much less so stores putting up their names on the building is perfectly fine with me.
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Old August 11th, 2016, 02:01 AM   #5532
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Well everyone has he own sense of taste. Most upper scale towns and cities in the US have strict guidelines about commercial signage and treatment of establishments' names on buildings. In this case, the double-sign is unnecessary (does the owner think his name is that forgettable?) and the scale is poorly proportioned.
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I agree with TM_Germany here. Some of these pictures, with those brand new buildings and clear blue skies, almost look like renders to me. The people, terraces and even those signs give life to the Neumarkt. Like many people here I am disappointed by some of the modern infills, but I do not think everything should be period-authentic. It should be a living and lively city square, not an open-air museum.

And I think the name is written twice for reasons of symmetry .
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those old signs are much more better looking. They are quite cool. These new ones are ok but not cool.
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More classical signs instead of random stuff! Thanks! :)

Vapiano is a German-Italian restaurant franchise and big in business.
I don't think they'd change their sign for the purpose of a historical square.

But perhaps they could generally use more classical wrought-iron shop signs / inn signs in such cases (in German they are known as Ausleger, Zunftschild or Nasenschild):


https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:...tWullenwHL.JPG


https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:...hwetzingen.JPG


https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:...restaurant.JPG

Even a bit more modern can be appropriate:


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...enschild_5.jpg


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...hof_Schild.JPG


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F..._Wikipedia.jpg

Alright, sometimes it seems a bit overdone, but still better than all the random modernist plastic signs...


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:P2150382.JPG


Many more such signs can be found here:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/C...:Nasenschilder
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Inn_signs
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/C...gns_in_Germany
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/C...gns_in_Germany
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Old August 12th, 2016, 12:23 PM   #5536
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it's actually sad that there is a Vapiano in the centre of Dresden, what else? What else do we want to open? Starbucks, McDonalds, Subway... It looks like a huge mall
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After all it's a magnet for people to go there. The problem the Neumarkt had so far was that it was almost exclusively touristic, nurturing the "Open-air museum" myth.
Dresdeners didn't have many reasons to go there, except for Christmas Markets perhaps. With some well-known brands and places for everyone this changes and the citizens of the city are more inclined to meet there.
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Old August 12th, 2016, 07:03 PM   #5538
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The Dinglingerhaus was only just finished and they've already smeared its facade with that? The tackiness of the sign seems insulting to its history as well as to the craftsmen who helped rebuild it. I guess they assumed that tourists would be confused or unable to relate with a more traditional look. Franchise culture makes it easier for them to choose and quicker to part with their money.
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For friends of a more appropriate atmosphere a highly recommend the Kurfürstenschänke.


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