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Old December 2nd, 2016, 02:05 PM   #5661
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It will be realized by another investor, Günter Blobel.
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Old December 5th, 2016, 12:52 AM   #5662
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For those who may not know the significance of Gunther Blobel being an investor, he is a Nobel Prize winner for medicine who donated his entire prize which was something like a half million dollars to rebuilding the Frauenkirche. Therefore, it is unlikely he would be a part of building some of the modern crap most followers of this thread would oppose.
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Old December 5th, 2016, 05:19 PM   #5663
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The building on the far left looks ridiculous. Jeez, if you're going to inject modern in there at least have it relate to the historic visual fabric!
I was refering to the whole block they are about to build =) Does anyone know when it will be finished?
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Old December 5th, 2016, 05:33 PM   #5664
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In about one and a half year I guess. Depends on when Blobel will start with his "Au petit Bazar".
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Old December 5th, 2016, 05:39 PM   #5665
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Can't wait to see the fugly Kulturpalast and the modernist corner building dipshit hidden.
Go Blobel, go Blobel!
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Old December 6th, 2016, 08:38 PM   #5666
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I've been under the impression that this was supposed to be a reconstruction of Dresden's old city, yet these modern structures keep popping up like weeds deliberately planted in an otherwise beautiful garden. Why? Why on earth?

The latest, which Erbse has dubbed "the shoebox," looks so much like a simple cardboard cutout and is so devoid of architecture that it looks as out of place here as a sequined gown on a canoe trip. It's a sad commentary when the best that can be said for it is that we look forward to it being hidden from view by future construction.
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Old December 6th, 2016, 08:45 PM   #5667
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I've been under the impression that this was supposed to be a reconstruction of Dresden's old city, yet these modern structures keep popping up like weeds deliberately planted in an otherwise beautiful garden. Why? Why on earth?

The latest, which Erbse has dubbed "the shoebox," looks so much like a simple cardboard cutout and is so devoid of architecture that it looks as out of place here as a sequined gown on a canoe trip. It's a sad commentary when the best that can be said for it is that we look forward to it being hidden from view by future construction.
Lots of peeps in San Francisco wear sequined gowns on canoe trips. They don't know any better. You'd think architects would.
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Old December 7th, 2016, 11:00 AM   #5668
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The doctrine of the Gestaltungsbeirat ("architectural committee") was to create modernist architecture at the side facing the Kulturpalast. The modernist lobby is still incredibly strong, much stronger than the classicist one actually, though the latter slowly gets some pace.

Thus the Neumarkt has to be valued as a great success already, if it wasn't for the very engaged citizens of Dresden and the GHND and people like Günter Blobel, it would all be much worse. Initially, they didn't want a single reconstruction around the Frauenkirche, but all modernist buildings.

Please don't try to understand the self-castrating ideology of modernist architects and lobbyists. They're mostly self-despicing semi-socialists, calling out for "bomber Harris do it again" and other atrocities.

We just need to overcome this modernist dogma by proving it can be done much better, e.g. with successful reconstructions and new classical architecture.
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If everyone would simply follow the architectural concept adopted almost 15 years ago by the city council, we wouldn't even need a "Gestaltungsbeirat".

https://www.dresden.de/media/pdf/sta...-text-bild.pdf

This concept has been broken in almost every possible way. We have flat roofs, Loggias, cladding with untypical stones. Each deviation from those principles needed the approval of the Gestaltungsbeirat.
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Old December 7th, 2016, 03:16 PM   #5670
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Please don't try to understand the self-castrating ideology of modernist architects and lobbyists. They're mostly self-despicing semi-socialists, calling out for "bomber Harris do it again" and other atrocities.
What are these people suggesting should be blown up? The new classical buildings?
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Old December 7th, 2016, 03:22 PM   #5671
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Everything. Dresden for them is the burning gate to hell, with reactionary, patriotic/nationalist folks creeping out (check the discussions about Pegida, AfD and other phenomena). Some see the reconstructions as the built epitome of that "culturally closed" Saxon mindset. While of course that isn't true, as other places reconstruct their historic gems that are generally considered cosmopolitan, such as Berlin and Frankfurt.
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^ I know this is a bit off-topic, and please tell me if this is not the right place to ask this question, but I was just wondering whether in Dresden or Frankfurt or elsewhere in Germany there is any correlation between the parties' political ideologies and their local support for historical reconstructions as opposed to modernist stuff. In other words, are the Conservatives (CDU) more supportive of reconstructions, while the SDP/ The Left/etc. are rather against it? Or is there no correlation whatsoever?
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I do not see a clear correlation. But in the former GDR, the Left ist almost certainly in opposition to reconstructions when buildings from socialist times are in danger.
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Old December 7th, 2016, 11:18 PM   #5674
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The Greens and the lefts usually support modernist buildings and dislike reconstructions etc on ideological (and/or perceived ecological) grounds. I don't think the rest of the parties really care all that much and it's mostly up to singular people within a party to lobby for or against something like reconstructions, however (more or less) centrist parties like the CDU or SDP of course don't immediately oppose reconstructions like more left leaning ones.
I don't know what the populists/far rightists say to that. On the one hand, you can tell them how traditionally german it might be, on the other hand it's hard to imagine them liking italian renaissance or classical greek styles.
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Old December 8th, 2016, 02:24 AM   #5675
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From my experience, the Greens often support reconstructions and a strong conservation policy. Not the worst people for projects like in Dresden, Potsdam or Frankfurt. One is almost tempted to vote for these people on communal level. But on the other hand you also get endless discussions about gender crap like unisex toilets, quotas for street names and god knows else.
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Old December 8th, 2016, 08:12 PM   #5676
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maybe it depends where. Greens like conservation, wooden houses in general and also ugly stuff like Freiburg-Vauban. Most towns I know of, the greens are opposing reconstructions, especially in Frankfurt. Reconstruction ideas there are normally started by citizens and/or the BFF party (conservative free voters), sooner or later getting support by CDU and maybe parts of FDP and SPD.
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Old December 23rd, 2016, 12:22 AM   #5677
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We will get the next couple of days the first glimpse of the buildings planed at the Quarter III/2. After that, six months will be open for changes.






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Old December 23rd, 2016, 12:32 AM   #5678
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And we have news about the Quarter V/ 1 or KIB project





Did I not tell You my friends that the population was against this design from the Nuernberger company KIB? Well the people complained so much that all four government parties are calling now to change at least the roof. Maybe too late. we will see. Keep you posted.
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Old December 23rd, 2016, 11:59 PM   #5679
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Hello, here two impressions from the Neumarkt in Dresden





more pictures from the stallhof you have here it is located only 100 Meters
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Old December 29th, 2016, 10:37 AM   #5680
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EIN KRAFTWERK AUS KUNST, KULTUR & KREATIVITÄT
DRESDENS NEUE MITTE!

http://www.kraftwerk-mitte-dresden.de/

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