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Old March 29th, 2008, 05:39 PM   #621
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Ist schon OK.

Another interesting project (from what I've read the single biggest building that will be reconstructed in the Neumarkt area)...Palais Hoym. It's part of Quartier III.



At the lower right you can see An der Frauenkirche 16/17. Palais Hoym should be the building at the end of the street:

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Old March 29th, 2008, 10:48 PM   #622
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I'm looking forward to see that structure's reconstruction! How exciting!
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Old March 29th, 2008, 11:00 PM   #623
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Does somebody know, actually, whether is this continued sometimes anyhow and sometime if the new market is built completely ready? Indeed, I am myself an inhabitant of Dresden, but till present this question was able to to me of no answering? Nevertheless, would be actually nice if one rebuilds historical Dresden still at other places, or?

If my very bad English excuses please, I hope you can understand so more or less what I want!
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Old March 30th, 2008, 04:26 AM   #624
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I also wonder to what extant Dresden will be rebuilt.(if that is what you are asking dakir)
Your English isn't bad, but the use of words and their organization seems a bit off. I plan to learn German soon so your several steps ahead of me in learning another langauge.
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Old March 30th, 2008, 04:54 AM   #625
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Ist schon OK.

Another interesting project (from what I've read the single biggest building that will be reconstructed in the Neumarkt area)...Palais Hoym. It's part of Quartier III.

I'm in love! That's just about the most gorgeous facade I've ever seen - Baroque elegance with a certain Gothic monumentality.

Wonderful news!
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Old March 30th, 2008, 11:59 AM   #626
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For me this would be even better if more people spoke German

This is right that palace of Hoym is one nicest in the new market. But even because the complete surroundings adapt itself.

@ Kampflamm
Weißt du von irgendwelchen Plänen oder hast mal etwas davon gehört, dass man auch an anderen Stellen sowas plant wie auf dem Neumarkt? Ich meine jetzt aber nicht das Kurländer Palais und die Orangerie beim Zwinger (dort soll ja mal wieder ein Hotel entstehen )
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Old March 30th, 2008, 03:19 PM   #627
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Also über ähnlich große Rekoprojekte habe ich leider nichts gehört. Das Bülow Palais sieht auch nicht schlecht aus, ist aber auch kein Riesenprojekt.



Am Altmarkt kommt ja auch ein neues Gebäude hin aber leider wird es keine Reko sein. Vielleicht reisst man ja irgendwann den Kulturpalast ab und kann dort noch ein paar Gebäude wiederaufbauen...
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Old March 30th, 2008, 03:51 PM   #628
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A reminder of what the situation looked like back in August of 04...no Quartiers and the nasty Police HQ was still standing where Q III is today:

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And a view of the surrounding areas today (Quartier III at the bottom of the pic):

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Modern architecture... seen worse but it's still so much worse than its baroque neighbors:





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Old March 30th, 2008, 06:20 PM   #630
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For me this would be even better if more people spoke German
I'm going to try to learn some German.
Neumarkt ist ruhe schön!
Did I say that right?
I nicht können Wartezeit für mehr Rekonstruktionen!
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Old March 30th, 2008, 06:26 PM   #631
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Am Altmarkt kommt ja auch ein neues Gebäude hin aber leider wird es keine Reko sein. Vielleicht reisst man ja irgendwann den Kulturpalast ab und kann dort noch ein paar Gebäude wiederaufbauen...

Hoffnungsvoll. Was ist der kulturelle Palast genau?
(BTW I'm using an old translater book from when Berlin was still divided.)
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Old March 30th, 2008, 09:15 PM   #632
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This thing:



Contrary to what I've said before it apparently hasn't been renovated yet so it would make sense to tear it down.
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Indeed! I'll help!
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Die Sachsenbau Chemnitz hatte vor einigen Jahren mal ein Konzept erarbeitet, wo wenigstens die 2 Außenfronten vom Kulturpalast hätten auf Reko umgebaut werden sollen, leider endete diese Idee an 15 Millionen Euro Zugabe von der Stadt. Und jetzt bezahlt die Stadt 65 Millionen für nichts. Könnt ich Kotzen für diese Dummheit.

The "Sachsenbau" Chemnitz had compiled some years ago sometimes a draught where at least 2 outside fronts of the cultural palace should have been altered on Reko, unfortunately, this idea ended in 15 million euros of addition of the city. And now the city pays 65 millions for nothing. Can vomit I for this stupidity

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Stammte das Design nicht von Kollhoff? Wäre wirklich toll gewesen, eine Einkaufspassage wie in Mailand oder Neapel. Aber dazu hat man in D'land nicht den Mumm. Lieber behält man so eine altes Teil oder baut irgendeinen modernen Kack.
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A video on the project...





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is this accurate? Or is it a new project? If its new it looks pretty good. Not faddish, timeless but could use some more detail on the exterior.
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Geile Bilder

Das schlimme an der ganzen Geschichte ist ja wie gesagt, dass Dresden im Jahr 2003 nur 15 Millionen Euro Bürgschaft bzw. Beteiligung hätte übernehmen müssen. Und jetzt, jetzt bleibt der Kulti so wie er ist und die Renovierung kostet gleich mal 65 Millionen Euro. Da sieht man mal, wie dumm die damaligen Stadtväter waren
Schade, dass die Sachsenbau Chemnitz nicht versucht die alten Pläne jetzt noch mal umzusetzen. Wirklich traurig.

Bad in the whole history is like said that Dresden would have had to take over in 2003 only 15 million euros of guarantee or Participation. And now, now remains of the Kulti as well as he is and the renovation costs immediately sometimes 65 million euros. There one sees sometimes how silly the city fathers at that time were
It is a pity that to move the Sachsenbau Chemnitz not tried the old plans yet sometimes. Really sadly.
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is this accurate? Or is it a new project? If its new it looks pretty good. Not faddish, timeless but could use some more detail on the exterior.
These are plans from the year 2001 - in 2003 which has not moved the city of Dresden. What I cannot really understand. At that time it was about only 15 Mio. participation. And as well as it looks these plans are a death and are never moved, unfortunately.
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