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Old August 6th, 2008, 09:08 PM   #761
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How big is the demand on the boutiques and apartments around Neumarkt ?
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Old August 6th, 2008, 09:17 PM   #762
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Looks to me like Dresden is on the ball with these reconstructions.... all decorations fully restored and none of this "restored in a simpler form" crap that you hear so much of.
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Old August 6th, 2008, 11:49 PM   #763
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Unfortunately, that is not entirely the case. If you look back at the earlier photos in the thread, you will see some buildings that are pretty modern but still have the basic massing of their baroque predecessors. Personally I don't like it and I'm glad that most of the buildings are truly 'as they were'. Maybe some day someone will come along and properly restore the modern facades as they should be.
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Old August 7th, 2008, 12:47 AM   #764
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God...this looks so damn good!
Thanks again for the pictures, Kampflamm!
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Old August 7th, 2008, 03:09 PM   #765
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The reconstructions aren't perfect but what are you gonna do? The modernists just won't give up and they will always use the age old "disneyland argument". Things are getting better though. Who'd have thought 5 years ago that the Neumarkt would get its largely baroque appearance back?

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Old August 7th, 2008, 09:06 PM   #766
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Don't get me wrong, I'm absolutely delighted they are rebuilding so much in Dresden, and no, I wouldn't have dreamed it was possible. My response to all those people who cry "Disneyland"-go and look at what the Russians have done at the imperial palaces outside St. Petersburg-Pavlovsk, Tsarskoye Selo, Peterhof, Gatchina-and tell me that those look 'fake'. It can be done, but it isn't easy. I just, personally, would prefer Dresden to be all baroque. After all, it was one of the greatest baroque cities in the world before the war.

Also, thanks for all of the updated pictures. They are fabulous!
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Old August 14th, 2008, 04:55 PM   #767
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Old August 16th, 2008, 10:45 PM   #768
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Old August 18th, 2008, 02:31 PM   #769
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Old August 19th, 2008, 02:09 AM   #770
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It all looks great - minus those windows along the roof lines; they look a bit off.
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Old August 19th, 2008, 02:19 AM   #771
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What is filling all of these new Neumarkt buildings?
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Old August 19th, 2008, 06:28 PM   #772
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What is filling all of these new Neumarkt buildings?
Residentials, offices, shops, gastronomy, hotels, public stuff like museums I guess. As usual.
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Old August 19th, 2008, 11:07 PM   #773
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It all looks great - minus those windows along the roof lines; they look a bit off.
Those windows are called dormers. The reconstructed buildings had a reduced amount of those in their respective pre-WW2-version. The added ones are an acknowledgement to the yield - remember that most of those buildings were just built by investors.
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great, i have to visit Dresno...
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Awesome! Dresden is wonderful city, I must go there. Is there any known termit of the end of recontruction?
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This project must be shame for todays architects, thanks to this they have less work.
I think they could change the design a bit, for me this lacks human scale. For example this picture looks like colored advanced commieblock, it's too monotonous.
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However if these blocks will form few streets, the impression will be much better.
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This project must be shame for todays architects, thanks to this they have less work.
I think they could change the design a bit, for me this lacks human scale. For example this picture looks like colored advanced commieblock, it's too monotonous.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3008/...61985822_b.jpg
However if these blocks will form few streets, the impression will be much better.
Well, I guess Dresden was full of those human scale lacking "commieblocks" before the war , because the streetscape of the rebuilt Neumarkt in Dresden is quite similar to the historic one.



Dresden has enough place to serve for modern architects as playground, lets be fair and give the people of Dresden in exchange at least a a small traditional and intact town center back.

But I guess the nature of a square is simply to be broader than a narrow street, don't you think as well?
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Old August 23rd, 2008, 01:45 PM   #778
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What exactly is a "human scale"? 2m high architecture? And if commieblocks looked like that, I'd be the biggest commieblock lover around.

Good news, everyone! The Hotel Stadt Rom will probably (I'd say around 99% likelihood now) be reconstructed as well:



It's located between the Hotel de Saxe and the Heinrich-Schütz-Residenz. Won't be used as a hotel but rather as an apartment building though.
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Great news!
Even though it raises the question how they are planning to cinnect the Neumarkt quarter with the northern parts of the inner city, because as it will be it simply does not fit together.
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Well, I guess Dresden was full of those human scale lacking "commieblocks" before the war , because the streetscape of the rebuilt Neumarkt in Dresden is quite similar to the historic one.
Yes, but even on those old pics you can see the houses didn't have so much dormers, have less floors, looked smaller and more cosy. I think adding more dormers ruined general feeling of these blocks quite a lot. True is that before ww2 it lacked human scale too, this can be problem of end-of-19th-century german architecture generally. Vienna has this strange block-feeling too, most buildings in the centre were built at the end of 19th century. Most of buildings have similar square windows, similar storey height, frontages are flat without many ledges and ornaments and buildings form monotonous huge blocks, mostly right-angled. In the narrow street it doesn't matter so much, but in the square it is obvious.
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