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Old March 15th, 2009, 06:07 PM   #1021
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What a strange place to put the coat of arms! Is that the main entrance?
It looks as if this hotel was doubled in size, the roof in particular.
I haven't made up my mind yet if these extensions are a good idea or if they should have stuck to the original plans of the building that stood before the war.
Still very attractive though.
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Old March 15th, 2009, 06:45 PM   #1022
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Pre-1945:

[IMG]http://i40.************/2jca5ph.jpg[/IMG]

Today:



This is probably pretty close to what it looked like initially:

[IMG]http://i44.************/2j5kxuo.jpg[/IMG]


Note: the facade shown in the drawing is on the other side...nonetheless the roof seems to have been much bigger before 1825. All of this is quite similar to what's been done around the Neumarkt. Many buildings underwent neo-classicist changes in the 19th century but the rebuilt ones largely got their baroque facades back.
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Old March 21st, 2009, 04:47 PM   #1023
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Future site of Quartier VIII in the distance:

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Source: Vitruv & Kindvon2dresdnern, (APH-Forum)
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 08:38 PM   #1024
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Maybe they put them in a park or something.
When they tore down our beautiful courthouse they took the statues to the cemetery.

In my opinion, I think it would have looked better if they kept the statues.
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Old March 23rd, 2009, 03:29 PM   #1025
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The statues are in the courtyard of the "Taschenbergpalais" now. You can see this on the 26th picture on this side:

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Old March 23rd, 2009, 04:26 PM   #1026
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Pre-1945:

[IMG]http://i40.************/2jca5ph.jpg[/IMG]

Today:





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Strange, that so many building looked so neglected and run down back then. Especially in a city like Dresden which was quite rich.
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Old March 23rd, 2009, 05:35 PM   #1027
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It wasn't half as easy to renovate a building back then. And because there were nothing but old buildings, there wasn't all that much valuation of them. You fairly recognize this by the way some old towns were "renovated" before WW2 - massive street breakthroughs (talking about Frankfurt or Berlin f.i.), structural exposing of churches from their surroundings, etc.
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Old March 27th, 2009, 01:28 PM   #1028
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But this was the heart of Dresden, a German economic and cultural powerhouse back then. And just look at all the shops at the Neumarkt, they looked rather poor and very primitive. At the same time, massive skyscrapers and stuff was going up in the new world.

look at this for example:
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Old March 27th, 2009, 04:18 PM   #1029
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The old town district of Dresden was rather poor back then. Rich people were living around the central station or outer districts, such as Loschwitz, Weisser Hirsch, Johannstadt or parts of the Neustadt side.

(Most old towns of - even rich - European cities looked like that around 1900.)

And btw, many buildings suffered from the extensive exhaust pollution of that time.
You have to consider that there were no filters for chimneys, cars or factories & powerhouses.
Everything turned dirty pretty quickly.

Also, it's typical for the Elbe sandstone to turn black like the Frauenkirche as you see it in your picture, that's no dirt.

They renovated huge parts of Dresdens old town in the 20s/30s anyway - while your picture shows its condition around 1910.
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Old March 27th, 2009, 08:35 PM   #1030
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I have a question, not really about the reconstruction process, but about Dresden in itself.
I have a book. It's called "Bilz, das neue Naturheilverfahren". Bilz was some kind of medical doctor, specialist and therapist, and he made up the whole set of different health treatements. Yyou see he had this really nice complsex of sanatory buildings. In his book there is a advertisement of that.
I'm just wondering if the wole thing is still there and if not - what's there at the moment. The place was called Dresden - Radebeul.
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Old March 27th, 2009, 09:05 PM   #1031
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There are some pics if you googe for Bilz-Sanatorium

[IMG]http://i40.************/2iqka3r.jpg[/IMG]



The building is apparently now privately owned.
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Old March 28th, 2009, 03:20 AM   #1032
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The new apartments around Neumarkt, how do these look? =)
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Old March 29th, 2009, 03:52 PM   #1033
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Some new views of the Neumarkt:



Future site of Quartier VIII



View towards the Altmarkt:



And two shots of the Altmarkt...the buildings are mainly post-war-pseudo-Stalinist ones. Pretty nice looking. The football stadium floodlight looks out of place though.





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I forgot to mention, I meant inside. The interior etc.
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Great updated! It's possible to see a lot of movement around Neumarkt!
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Old April 1st, 2009, 12:06 AM   #1036
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When there was footbal mentioned.. Rudolf Harbig stadium is also being renovated now? Just asking, as I will probably visit Dresden this week..

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^ Indeed, it is. Have a look at this!

It actually is like a complete new stadium being on its way.


Do you take some photos of Dresden? Would be great if you could post some here if so

How much time are you going to spend there? Ever been to Grlitz?
If not - it really is some great insider tip! It definitely is one of Germany's (if not Europe's) most beautiful cities.
Have a look at this thread for some impressions
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Old April 9th, 2009, 02:26 AM   #1038
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The Life Magazine archives have an astounding collection of prints and photos of German cities before and immediately after the war, the latter of which can be found by searching under “destruction of German cities”.

The following photo has probably been posted somewhere else on the forum but I thought it wouldn'y hurt to post it anyway. It is a pre-war, aerial perspective of Dresden that I have never seen before.


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Old April 11th, 2009, 12:19 AM   #1039
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Altmark has some reconstructions, too? I've seen there some construction site...

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Old April 28th, 2009, 10:51 PM   #1040
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Great thread

this is what i found in my old highschool German textbook the other day

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