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Old August 23rd, 2009, 04:49 PM   #1141
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It will indeed be a historical reconstruction. I haven't seen any renders though.



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14. Januar 2009

Haus von Augusts Geliebter entsteht neu
Von Bettina Klemm

Eine Investorengruppe will die Häuserzeile Rampische Straße vollenden. Der Bau soll dieses Jahr beginnen.

Das Kurländer Palais ist fast fertig. Jetzt soll auch der kleine Zipfel gegenüber bebaut werden.

Rampische Strasse 33

Auf zahlreichen historischen Ansichtskarten und Fotos ist das schmale Kopfgebäude Rampische Straße 33 abgebildet. Es gilt als Zeugnis bürgerlicher Barockbaukunst in Dresden. Die Entwürfe dazu sollen von Zwingerbaumeister Matthäus Daniel Pöppelmann stammen. Gebaut wurde das Haus ursprünglich 1715/16. Ein Jahr später gelangte es in den Besitz von Maria Anna von Spiegel, die als Türkin Fatima eine der Mätressen von August dem Starken war. Das Gebäude gilt als Leitbau, das bedeutet, es soll zumindest äußerlich originalgetreu wieder errichtet werden. Die Planungen dafür laufen.

Die Bauherren

In dem Haus sollen Wohnungen und unten Läden entstehen. „Da wir aber keine Wohnungsbauer sind, haben wir uns mit der Firma USD, Unser schönes Dresden, zusammengeschlossen“, sagt Jürg E. Köllmann von der Fibona Beteiligungsholding aus Taunusstein. Köllmann errichtet derzeit das Innside Premium Hotel an der Rampischen Straße. Das 33 Millionen Euro teure Projekt soll zum Jahresende fertig werden.

Für die beiden Häuser Rampische Straße 31 und 33 rechnet er mit einer Investitionssumme von etwa 2,15 Millionen Euro. Die Firma USD mit Geschäftsführer Thomas Dathe hat in Dresden zahlreiche denkmalgeschützte Wohngebäude restauriert. USD ist auch am originalgetreuen Wiederaufbau des Kurländer Palais beteiligt.

Das Grundstück

Noch hat das Ganze einen Haken. Die Hälfte des Grundstücks der Rampischen Straße 31 gehört einer norwegischen Erbengemeinschaft. Mit der steht Köllmann in Verhandlungen. Da die Erbengemeinschaft bekundet hat, das Grundstück an ihn zu verkaufen, hat nun auch der Finanzausschuss des Stadtrates einstimmig den Weg für den Verkauf der städtischen Flurstücke frei gemacht. Köllmanns Fibona und Dathes USD haben dazu die Immobiliengesellschaft „Elbwiese 101“ gegründet, die als Käufer auftritt. Sie kann für 509000 Euro die 227 Quadratmeter große Fläche erwerben. Das entspreche dem Verkehrswert.

Da es sich um eines der wenigen noch unbebauten Neumarkt-Grundstücke handelt, hatten einige Stadträte gefordert, dass die Fläche ausgeschrieben werden müsste. Mit dem Kauf verpflichten sich die Investoren nun, ihr Vorhaben mit der Stadtplanung abzustimmen. „Wir hoffen, dass auch das Gebäude Nr. 31 an der Salzgassenseite eine originalgetreue Fassade erhält“, sagt Torsten Kulke von der Gesellschaft Historischer Neumarkt. Die Gestaltungskommission plädiere eher für eine angepasst zeitgenössische Fassadengestaltung.

Wohnungen neben dem Hotel

Doch bevor Köllmann und Dathe das Eckgrundstück in Angriff nehmen, wollen sie auf den Grundstücken Rampische Straße 23, 25 und 27 Wohnhäuser errichten. In vier Wochen reichen wir den Bauantrag ein, kündigt Köllmann an. Im August soll dann Baubeginn sein. Denn über diese Häuser erfolgt die Zufahrt zur Tiefgarage des Innside-Hotels, das wiederum bis zum Jahresende 2009 fertig sein soll. Bis dahin müssen auch Keller- und Erdgeschoss der Wohnhäuser stehen. Die Investitionssumme für die Wohnhäuser beträgt etwa vier Millionen Euro. Sie sollen bis zum Sommer 2010 bezugsfertig sein. Das Barockhaus Nr. 29 wird von der Gesellschaft Historischer Neumarkt originalgetreu errichtet.
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Old August 23rd, 2009, 05:42 PM   #1142
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Rampische Strasse 33 (Quartier II)

Thanks for the article!


I can't think of any renders of this building. But there are lots of photos throughout the web, as the view from the head building Rampische Strasse 33 down the street with the Frauenkirche in the back was used for many postcards and paintings.

Such as this one:
[IMG]http://i28.************/2ikqe5d.jpg[/IMG]
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There's a photo in the linked article as well:
[IMG]http://i32.************/2a5bs5f.jpg[/IMG]
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Additional photos and information of the quarter including the head building can be found on this page:

http://www.neumarkt-dresden.de/ramp23-33.html
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Old August 23rd, 2009, 05:51 PM   #1143
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Her Majesty Queen Marge II visited Dresden:

[IMG]http://i26.************/2ds46a.jpg[/IMG]

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Source: http://bausituation-dresden.blogspot.com (User Wrba)
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Old August 23rd, 2009, 06:15 PM   #1144
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The hotel is SO butt ugly. But I won't complain anymore because the street, when it is finished, will overall look pretty crappy. People seem to forget, that there is another side of the street and there is not one single recontruction planned. The only facade worth of a reconstruction (Palais Hoym), was scrapped already.
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Why so pessimistic?


I'm not worried about the quality of the street at all.
The hotel looks ok, it just needs some paint job in the center.
The other side may get some decent fillers while the Palais Hoym isn't dead at all costs.
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Old August 23rd, 2009, 08:00 PM   #1146
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Palais Hoym was scrapped? When did that happen?
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Old August 28th, 2009, 04:58 PM   #1147
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It just doesn't have a certain building schedule yet, apart from that everything's fine.


Anyway, some additional update of the recently stripped quarter:

Quartier II-2 construction update


Impressions of the Residenzschloss (Royal Castle) at the Neumarkt with its interiors, soon some new rooms will be open to public:

Residenzschloss construction update
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It is as if the city is reappearing!
Are there any new renderings?
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Old August 30th, 2009, 02:48 AM   #1149
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Why so pessimistic?


I'm not worried about the quality of the street at all.
The hotel looks ok, it just needs some paint job in the center.
The other side may get some decent fillers while the Palais Hoym isn't dead at all costs.
it looks a bit fake to me, but I am sure it is better than nothing.
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What looks fake to you?
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Btw, as some people asked about new renders, I found this additional painting of the Rampische Strasse (Quartier II, no. 9 to 21):


by GHND (neumarkt-dresden.de)


It doesn't show the hotel complex though. It was initially planned to reconstruct all buildings in this street or to build historicising buildings where reconstr. aren't on the way.
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That would've looked awesome. Pitty they didn't go trough with it. Taht moden hotel is okay but a bit too big amongst those slim baoque houses. The yellow one on the right of it looks as if it doesn't belong there with the big hotel entrance and all.
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Old September 14th, 2009, 09:47 AM   #1153
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Been there, seen it. Dresden looks very impressive. Hope it will be reconstructed totally.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 02:32 AM   #1154
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This is my favourite thread on the forum!! It's amazing to see Dresden being rebuilt in this way. I never ever believed it would happen.

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Old September 15th, 2009, 10:11 AM   #1155
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Me too... i'm waiting every day new pictures... when next?
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it looks a bit fake to me, but I am sure it is better than nothing.
What looks fake? When real old buildings are renovated they look pretty similar to those newly built reconstructions. In just one or two decades time they have their patina back however. Thats completely normal.
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Does anyone know about the construction methods and materials that are being used, and to what extent they match the original architecture? Are the buildings mostly made of concrete blocks with a historical 'cladding' or are they actually being built as they were?
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This is what the Rampische Straße will look like soon:

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When work will begin on the building at the corner?
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I wonder what else might possibly be rebuilt in the coming years e.g. the Sophienkirche (pic) and the Altmarkt with the old town hall.



I wish they could rebuild everything.
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