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Old July 17th, 2010, 12:07 AM   #1661
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Thanks to Kampflamm I think I've worked out exactly what's being rebuilt right now from this:




This photo shows Nos. 23 and 25, pre-war. This corresponds to the first two buildings on the plan shown above.




The next building along features a projecting window that extends out over the road. You can see it here in this pre-war photo, on the far left:



And you can see the beginning of the projection being built into the current reconstruction here:



Here's the bombed-out facade of No.33, the last house on the street.




The end of the street should look something like this, once it's finished:



http://www.neumarkt-dresden.de/ramp23-33.html



Cannot wait for it to continue. I don't know what it is about these townhouses but they are really so lovely.
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Old July 17th, 2010, 04:14 PM   #1662
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Yup, the 4 buildings on the left are being reconstructed right now:

That is so nice. Regarding the trade off discussion with the modern building I think it is a fair trade off and I even think the building serves a purpose since it points out that this is not Disney world or another museum but a city that grows and allows different styles.
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Old July 17th, 2010, 08:19 PM   #1663
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What are the dates when the former buildings--Nos 23-33 Rampische Str--were built?

Also, the long views we are seeing of the new construction along Rampische Str will soon be impossible; these structures will be viewed from up close or at a long side-angle since Quartier III, right across the street, will close them in, if and when QIII plans continue. As such, character/ambience of the former look and feel will only be enhanced.
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Old July 17th, 2010, 11:26 PM   #1664
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What are they doing with the english stairs?
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Old July 17th, 2010, 11:28 PM   #1665
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Renovating, along with the whole Johanneum that is an early GDR reconstruction of the 50s.
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Old July 17th, 2010, 11:36 PM   #1666
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What are the dates when the former buildings--Nos 23-33 Rampische Str--were built?
Well the link here http://www.neumarkt-dresden.de/ramp23-33.html seems to think that they were from the first quarter of the 18th century.
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Old July 18th, 2010, 11:40 AM   #1667
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The baroque facades do look good and the reconstruction of the church is stunning. As for contemporary designs being included I think they add texture to the fabric of the project. One thing is missing from this thread; are the floor plans/plates available?
In London there are a lot of, stealth projects where the original facade is kept in tact and behind that all is modern. The question is does this approach cheapen the interior of the building? It would be interesting to see what's been happening within the envelope of this project.
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Old July 18th, 2010, 08:31 PM   #1668
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Does anyone have a prewar picture of Rampische Strasse 21? That is the one that is modern today, correct? I'm curious to see if it was a Baroque gem or unremarkable. If the latter is the case, I don't mind the modern as much.
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Old July 18th, 2010, 11:35 PM   #1669
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Does anyone have a prewar picture of Rampische Strasse 21? That is the one that is modern today, correct? I'm curious to see if it was a Baroque gem or unremarkable. If the latter is the case, I don't mind the modern as much.

from the neumarkt-dresden website ( http://www.neumarkt-dresden.de/ramp9-21-salzgasse.html ) here is what 19-21 looked like in former times:



#19 is in the middle and #21 is on the right, the lighter color building. It does appear as if #21 is somewhat unremarkable, but #19 seems to have many gem-quality elements.
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Old July 18th, 2010, 11:45 PM   #1670
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the back side of the Hoym Palais is intended to be the buildings directly opposite 9-21 Rampische Str. which is 12-14 Rampische. Have the plans/designs of the exterior of the Hoym been confirmed?
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Old July 20th, 2010, 07:59 PM   #1671
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from the neumarkt-dresden website ( http://www.neumarkt-dresden.de/ramp9-21-salzgasse.html ) here is what 19-21 looked like in former times:



#19 is in the middle and #21 is on the right, the lighter color building. It does appear as if #21 is somewhat unremarkable, but #19 seems to have many gem-quality elements.
Thanks for posting this pic. Honestly, this makes me a lot more comfortable with the modern reconstructions. While I personally would have preferred everything to be rebuilt exactly the way it was before the war, at least (in this instance) the buildings that aren't being reconstructed don't seem like they are architecturally significant. I'd much rather have 21 be modern and 19 a reconstruction than vice versa. Is this the way it's being done throughout the Neumarkt, or are some architecturally significant buildings not being reconstructed in favor of modern designs?
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Old July 20th, 2010, 10:48 PM   #1672
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What are they fixing at Hauptbahnhof? There's no thread and the Dresden forum is sleeping..
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Old July 21st, 2010, 04:22 PM   #1673
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British Hotel is slowly reaching its completion.





A look inside



Source: http://bausituation-dresden.blogspot.com/
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Old July 21st, 2010, 04:25 PM   #1674
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Little addition for Rampische Strasse:






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Old July 21st, 2010, 04:29 PM   #1675
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Intensive foundation works are running at Quartier VIII (quarter 8) now, next to the Royal Castle:
















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Old July 21st, 2010, 06:47 PM   #1676
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Little addition for Rampische Strasse:

What will go on that brownfield site infront?
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What do you mean? Did you quote the wrong picture? This one shows the British Hotel.
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No, Im talking about that piece of land at the bottom of the picture.
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Ah, ok. That is Quartier III-2.
[IMG]http://i30.************/3310f3s.jpg[/IMG]

Except for one major reconstruction (Palais Hoym, in orange) there's nothing really certain, as far as I know.

Check the German site of GHND for more information & illustrations: http://www.neumarkt-dresden.de/quartier3-2.html
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That's Palais Hoym that will be build there:
[IMG]http://i28.************/2wgw3dk.jpg[/IMG]
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Renderings of the baroque Palais Hoym, by Arte4D (Andreas Hummel / GHND):

The wing of the palais with the festival room for concerts
[IMG]http://i25.************/2inasl.jpg[/IMG]
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Backside of Palais Hoym at Rampische Strasse, view towards Neumarkt (Johanneum in the back)
[IMG]http://i25.************/rsrd5w.jpg[/IMG]
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The courtyard with a garden and the summer pavilion
[IMG]http://i32.************/nps9w8.jpg[/IMG]
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Old July 21st, 2010, 08:09 PM   #1680
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Very nice pictures! I remember i was in Dresden with my school in September 2000. I really liked the buildings of the city. I hope i will visit it soon
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