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Old August 3rd, 2010, 08:45 PM   #1741
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Old August 3rd, 2010, 08:52 PM   #1742
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What a beauty! But I don't like, that the original fragments are standing out so dark and dirty.
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Old August 3rd, 2010, 09:17 PM   #1743
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Yes! This is what I like to see; with so much emphasis on generic modernist and post-modernist architecture these days itís so great to see a city reclaim its classic architecture heritage. Its sad looking on old pre-WW2 pictures of German cities and seeing how of the past has been lost to future generations. Dresden is to be commended for its efforts in restoring itself and bringing back the old style buildings. I sincerely hope that this type of reconstruction is followed in more cities.

I couldn't disagree more on the attitude that these types of buildings must be left to the past only modernist glassy buildings be built. These older style buildings have an aura of character, charm and vibrancy and that newer buildings canít replicate. These qualities are indispensable to a city and canít be answered in simple unimaginative questions of cost-effectiveness which too often gives rise to bland undesirable blocks of buildings.

Great detail on the building in those last photos.
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Old August 3rd, 2010, 11:43 PM   #1744
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That is beautiful!

A few things spring to mind:

i) what is going to be built next to it? Anything?

ii) I thought they started painting the stone a few months back? Are they leaving it au naturelle? (I like the natural stone anyway).

iii) I personally like seeing the original fragments as they link the reconstruction directly back into it's original form. Just think what those fragments have witnessesd and experienced?? Also, as with the Frauenkirche, I guess it will weather over time anyway.
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Old August 4th, 2010, 12:04 AM   #1745
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Wow! It's beautiful!!!!! Thanks for the update!
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Old August 4th, 2010, 12:16 AM   #1746
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This is a fantastic reconstruction! Gj!
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Old August 4th, 2010, 12:33 AM   #1747
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Old August 4th, 2010, 12:48 AM   #1748
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That is beautiful!

A few things spring to mind:

i) what is going to be built next to it? Anything?

ii) I thought they started painting the stone a few months back? Are they leaving it au naturelle? (I like the natural stone anyway).

iii) I personally like seeing the original fragments as they link the reconstruction directly back into it's original form. Just think what those fragments have witnessesd and experienced?? Also, as with the Frauenkirche, I guess it will weather over time anyway.

Quote and i wonder the same.
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Old August 4th, 2010, 04:04 AM   #1749
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According to my source in Dresden who is very much on top of things:

1) the property next to the BH has some legal issues that are not yet resolved. The intent is to rebuild the area with the historic structures, but the owners need to settle the issues first.
2) the BH had several color samples applied to its facade but the owners were not happy with any of the ideas. For now, the natural stone look will remain. In fact, the original buildings were natural taupe stone color, not colorfully painted.
3) the original pieces salvaged from rubble look good to me too. It links the past with the present and gives authenticity to the work.
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Old August 4th, 2010, 09:59 AM   #1750
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Thanks, great work.

How it is the faÁade of the building next to BH?
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Old August 4th, 2010, 02:11 PM   #1751
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ii) I thought they started painting the stone a few months back? Are they leaving it au naturelle? (I like the natural stone anyway).
They rarely paint natural stone really, so I don't think the stone architectual details such as pilasters would be painted. But not whole facade is made of stone, I believe there are parts layered with plaster, and these are the parts that might be painted soon. This is also what I am curious about - are they going to put the scaffoldin back, and paint the plaster parts with the colors they chose and tried on the wall before?

Like we can see it here:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_hyMAHRDzt_...z4/s1600/6.jpg

BTW - Here we can see which parts are old, original stone, which are new reconstructed stone, and which are plaster.
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Old August 4th, 2010, 03:24 PM   #1752
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The balcony is not finished yet. Only then we'll see the building back in all its grandeaur!
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Old August 5th, 2010, 08:16 PM   #1754
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Apparently the four busts that stand in niches at the top represent Luna, Jupiter, Mars and Venus.

http://www.witschel-grossenhain.de/r...hotel-dresden/


Do you think they will rebuild the Palais de Saxe given how well the British Hotel has turned out?



http://www.neumarkt-dresden.de/british-hotel.html

Lots of pics here of the Palais de Saxe:

http://www.deutschefotothek.de/obj32016107.html#|home
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"Do you think they will rebuild the Palais de Saxe given how well the British Hotel has turned out?"



I thought there was not enough space to rebuild the Palais de Saxe until the modern construction along Wilsdrufer Str that cuts off Moritz str is removed.
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I thought there was not enough space to rebuild the Palais de Saxe until the modern construction along Wilsdrufer Str that cuts off Moritz str is removed.
That's a shame
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It won't take too long 'til we get to see the buildings at Wilsdruffer disappearing and the Palais de Saxe going up, I guess.
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Old August 7th, 2010, 01:27 AM   #1759
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It won't take too long 'til we get to see the buildings at Wilsdruffer disappearing and the Palais de Saxe going up, I guess.

Do you have some insights to this and a timeline? this would be great news, but as I posted earlier, all reports I've gotten indicate the Wilsdruffer row of communist buildings is going to be around for quite some time. Give us some good news!
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I wish I could, it's just my feeling. Investors want the space.
They renovated the blocks at Wilsdruffer some years ago. But still, I don't think they'll last forever.
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