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Old December 12th, 2006, 05:04 AM   #381
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Shanghai is definitely the most futuristic.plus,Shanghai has a lot of potential to be the next capital of the world
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Old December 12th, 2006, 05:06 AM   #382
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Actually, I think I'm no way as funny as you are.............I have repeated my opinion so many times that most of HKers agree that Japan is generally more furturistic than HK, and that Wanch did say similar thing in his previous post already. But I don't know why you said we cannot accept this fact, then keeping on taking advantage of Japan to attack HK..............Are you blind?

I don't think HK is the most furturistic one in the world, and I'm sure most of HKers would have same opinion. But I totally disagree to your statement that HK is about the 5000th and even those relatively lowly-developed cities, like Kuala Lumpur and elsewhere are all more furturistic than HK. This is your prejudice against HK obviously.

HK is not immaculate and I'm sure there isn't shangri-la in the world, but I would like to reiterate that HK is indeed a furturitic city, even though Japan is more furturistic, we're still more furturistic than most of Asian cities in that the advantages of HK is much more than the shortcomings.

Compared to other Asian cities, we have excellent services, more state of the art infrastructure, user-friendly facilities, mature banking and finance system and fair legal system. Besides, we also have higher degree of biz freedom and transparency, lower degree of corruption and bureaucratism as well as second to none biz surrounding. That's all crucial for a furturistic city.
Agree. Especially with finance since HK is the financial centre of the Asia Pacific region.

One thing about HK, it's a very global city. I kinda find it more international compared to other Asian cities with the exception of Singapore.
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Old December 12th, 2006, 05:17 AM   #383
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Infrastructure is a major first step to futurism. It is not just roads and public transit, but also includes other sustainable development components as well. East Asia, in general, does a very good job with transit infrastructure, since the cities are large and development is recent. Tokyo, Seoul, and Hong Kong all have extensive transit infrastructure, while there is a major push in China to set up an adequate amount of transit these days.

However, sustainable development as a concept is far better embedded in Europe and North America. In particular, recycling is only beginning to take off in industrialized Asia. This is somewhat out-of-line with the general level of technology that is available to the public. Cell phone penetration rates and broadband usage in industrialized Asia lead the world, oftentimes at par or even exceeding the Scandinavian countries who usually top these lists. Yet recycling and composting rates are quite abysmal. A major obstacle is the dense built-up environment in many East Asian cities, and implementing these programs in condominiums and apartments is not easy. This is a problem even in major recycling countries such as Canada.
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Old December 12th, 2006, 05:56 AM   #384
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Tokyo is the most futuristic city in the world. Period.
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Old December 12th, 2006, 02:01 PM   #385
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Skyprince, I agree with u that HK could be less futuristic than Tokyo or Seoul but is no way less futuristic than KL or Shenyang. Just my humble opinion. And if possible, try to avoid dragging Malaysian and KL into the argument Because many ppl will mistakenly judge the country and city based on your remarks here

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Old December 12th, 2006, 02:04 PM   #386
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Thanks Lastresorter for remindin
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Old December 12th, 2006, 02:15 PM   #387
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Old December 12th, 2006, 02:19 PM   #388
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Sinjin from Cebu? How did u change your nick? Wow u've become a moderator

@skyprince: no worries it's better to promote the place than getting caught in arguments

By the way, it seems like the discussion has been around Asian cities, what about other major cities in the world? Is Seattle futuristic? I think it is. London is very futuristic too along with its old charm.
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Old December 12th, 2006, 02:46 PM   #389
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Yes, this is Sinjin. My nick has been changed for security purposes haha since someone knew my password so it has been changed aswell And thanks for the greeting
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Old December 13th, 2006, 10:45 PM   #390
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futuristic?

no doubt it's tokyo.

ok so hong kong has those neon lights that make it futuristic but i dnt think the services, infra, or technology like cellphones, camera's, to tv's and small little toys are at par with tokyo's. dubai? maybe, but services, infra and technology? not as much as tokyo.
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Old December 14th, 2006, 03:54 AM   #391
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i think dubai is the most futuristic and shanghai too
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Old December 14th, 2006, 09:39 AM   #392
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futuristic?

no doubt it's tokyo.

ok so hong kong has those neon lights that make it futuristic but i dnt think the services, infra, or technology like cellphones, camera's, to tv's and small little toys are at par with tokyo's. dubai? maybe, but services, infra and technology? not as much as tokyo.
I think Tokyo has an edge over HK for infrastructure and technology but HK is still one of the best in Asia.

In terms of services, I think HK > Tokyo. HK is still Asia's financial capital.
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Old December 14th, 2006, 10:29 AM   #393
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I think Tokyo has an edge over HK for infrastructure and technology but HK is still one of the best in Asia.

In terms of services, I think HK > Tokyo. HK is still Asia's financial capital.
Wait wait wait ... Japan has a far larger financial services industry. Tokyo is a huge financial centre, and is among the top 3 in the world (New York, London, Tokyo). Japanese banks have very large asset bases, and the market capitalisation of the Tokyo Stock Exchange is much larger than HKex.
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Wait wait wait ... Japan has a far larger financial services industry. Tokyo is a huge financial centre, and is among the top 3 in the world (New York, London, Tokyo). Japanese banks have very large asset bases, and the market capitalisation of the Tokyo Stock Exchange is much larger than HKex.
Yes Tokyo is huge but most of their financial services is local. HK mostly serve the Asia Pacific region especially China. Alot of companies and banks have their Asia Pacific HQ in HK.
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Old December 14th, 2006, 12:47 PM   #395
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I think he meant servicing. Although what either finances or service sector have to do with futurism I have no flipping clue.
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Yes Tokyo is huge but most of their financial services is local. HK mostly serve the Asia Pacific region especially China. Alot of companies and banks have their Asia Pacific HQ in HK.
The 'Asia Pacific' reference is realistically an Asia ex-Japan function, since many multinationals have a separate subsidiary for Japan, which will likely headquarter in Tokyo. In terms of assets, capitalisation, and size, Japan is much bigger than Hong Kong or any other city in the region. Since East Asia alone is very diverse, the region is split into 3 primary areas with governance areas for each, such as Japan, North Asia including Greater China, and SE Asia. Hong Kong's key role is a headquarters city for Asia ex-Japan, ie. North Asia and SE Asia.

The services sector drives the knowledge-based economy and innovation, hence higher wages and an appetite to adopt more technology in daily lives.
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Old December 15th, 2006, 05:21 AM   #397
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become a hub doesn't mean futuristic.
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No but the two aren't mutually exclusive.

Hong Kong is a hub, and is also futuristic. Likewise Tokyo.
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There is only one answer : TOKYO ! Definitely Tokyo. Tokyo is very organized, boasts the latest technology, no visible poverty, no slums, superbly clean, well-restored relics of the past..


















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Old December 15th, 2006, 06:44 AM   #400
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Hong Kong should get it just for the Octopus Card. World's greatest invention since the wheel.
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