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Old July 8th, 2013, 03:28 PM   #1261
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I was responding to this statement above. The more skyscrapers, less futuristic.

If we follow straightly this logic, the primitive times and undeveloped times become futuristic too, which is not futuristic at all.

Also, some countries that have small and limited land, such as Singapore, become not futuristic if we follow this logic.

My point is that the concept of futuristic has to focus how sustainble the city is, not how many skyscrapers the city have.
Because the population of the earth will grow dramatically in the future, so some countries won't be able to build under 8 stories buildings in their given situations(which means not sustainable)
I agree with this but standard concepts of the future focus on large and tall skylines and by living in increased density there is much less transportation energy required. However a measure of either building height, innovative technology and transport, green spaces, urban farming and renewable energy could be used to indicate 'futuristic'. But the most futuristic is indeed a zero carbon city such as Masdar City in Abu Dhabi.
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Old July 8th, 2013, 05:28 PM   #1262
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I agree with this but standard concepts of the future focus on large and tall skylines and by living in increased density there is much less transportation energy required. However a measure of either building height, innovative technology and transport, green spaces, urban farming and renewable energy could be used to indicate 'futuristic'. But the most futuristic is indeed a zero carbon city such as Masdar City in Abu Dhabi.
And what about cities that will have more then 1-2 mil. people population? Especially in less developed countries.
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Old July 9th, 2013, 01:33 AM   #1263
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Seoul is pretty futuristic. For example the virtual supermarkets in some subway stations. You go to work with the subway and scan the things you want. Then if you arrive home in the evening your food is already there. No smuggling anymore !!


Source of the pictures: http://www.artschoolvets.com/news/20...em-smartphone/ This is also a nice and interesting article but sadly in German.
Right Actually i used to TESCO "HOMEPLUS" service. A delivery charge is 0.8 EURO=1000WON plus if i paid 0.8 euro they bring any product to my house.
Dirively time is from 11 AM to 8 PM. So i used to order Heavy product(such like a big water/shampoo/cocacola/watermelon)

Also 1 Gbps internet service in SEOUL. Also 3G/4G service without cut off in underground subway and around city. And With smartphone I'm checking BUS's arrived time in house before go to bus station/subway station.
And ordinary people banking with samrtphone in seoul. seoul didn't sleep for 24 hours.
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Old July 9th, 2013, 05:11 PM   #1264
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HK?! From distance it looks futuristic, but not so, when you in the city: apartment buildings looks shabby, streets not so clean and needs more investment in to the public transport, better organisation.

Cities that are futuristic from the inside:
1. Tokyo
2. Singapure
3. Seoul
4. Dubai
bonus. Abu Dhabi (in the future)

Cities that are futuristic from the outside:
1. Shanghai
2. Hong Kong
3. Guangzau
4. Shenzhen (urban area and height growing with the staggering speed)
5. Dubai
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Old July 9th, 2013, 05:32 PM   #1265
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How is Dubai "futuristic" from the inside ? lol
yea.. it's very futuristic!



Hong Kong is by far more "futuristic" on that one.
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Old July 9th, 2013, 05:56 PM   #1266
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WOW u take best part in Dubai. LOL
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Old July 9th, 2013, 06:08 PM   #1267
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Dubai is more then skyscrapers in a desert.
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Old July 9th, 2013, 07:11 PM   #1268
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YES, also green spaces in the desert, artificial peninsulas, islands, magnetic trains ect.
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Old July 10th, 2013, 09:47 PM   #1269
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Not futuristic if you take the old part...
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Old July 10th, 2013, 10:22 PM   #1270
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Tokyo, Shanghai and Hong Kong spring to mind.
These cities are what a typical futuristic city would look like. On that basis I would give it to Tokyo as I have always associated the Japanese with robots and bright neon lights.
But who are we to know what the future city might look like?
We might live underground for all we know.
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Old July 10th, 2013, 10:31 PM   #1271
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How is Dubai "futuristic" from the inside ? lol
yea.. it's very futuristic!

Hong Kong is by far more "futuristic" on that one.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 03:49 AM   #1273
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hong kong skyline is amazing, but i don't think the city is futuristic though.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 10:42 AM   #1274
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Come on guys the UAE is amazingly and futuristic. Look at Dubai's burn Al Arab with the world's biggest fabric wall. Abu Dhabi is also futuristic, the leaning tower, Ettihad tower, or future projects such as: Masdar city, or huge ones like Abu Dhabi 2030, which will include the world's tallest building. Oh, don't forget the world's most expensive car with hologram interior, and diamonds on the head lights, and performance that beats most supercars making Bugatti the only serious competitor, and boy does it look good.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 10:50 AM   #1275
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Did I miss something? World's tallest tower in Abu Dhabi?

Well, it is rather funny, how Abu Dhabi tries to compete with Dubai. Yes, even if AD has much more money, I really doubt if it can ever surpass Dubai. Even if 1000 supertalls gets built in AD, it will not be mor amazing than Dubai. Dubai is global city...
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When talking about money, Abu Dhabi beats Dubai, plus Abu Dhabi is very consistent. Dubai gets a boom, then they fall behind, then another boom. Abu Dhabi is kind of building secretly. They get very close to a record but don't beat or even reach it, This way they can make sudden appearances and become backup for the whole country in case Dubai's reputation decreases for some reason.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 11:10 AM   #1277
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When talking about money, Abu Dhabi beats Dubai, plus Abu Dhabi is very consistent. Dubai gets a boom, then they fall behind, then another boom. Abu Dhabi is kind of building secretly. They get very close to a record but don't beat or even reach it, This way they can make sudden appearances and become backup for the whole country in case Dubai's reputation decreases for some reason.
Both Abu Dhabi and Dubai have a lot more to offer. Don't forget this is just the beginning. The ruler of Dubai has stated that they are only at about 10 percent of they're vision so far. Dubai is aiming for the ten million plus population city.

Dubai and Abu Dhabi are not competing with each, look at it as a whole. They work together for the better of the whole UAE, its one united country.
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Yes, that's why Dubai builds he supertalls and Abu Dhabi builds the innovative stuff. A team with each team member being an expert at they're own thing, when combined it makes a team that's an expert at everything. BTW I think Dubai' small (when compared to the world) population is a huge disadvantage.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 05:36 PM   #1279
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Cities that are futuristic from the inside:
1. Tokyo
2. Singapure
3. Seoul
4. Dubai
bonus. Abu Dhabi (in the future)
Dubai is certainly not futuristic on the inside. Compare walking in Seoul, Tokyo, Shanghai or Hong Kong which is like a crazy neon disco trip with lots of life and tall buildings. To Dubai which is just tall buildings... whoop de doooo. That would give it points for being futuristic on the outside but it still pales in comparison to HK or Shenzhen.

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needs more investment in to the public transport
Are you kidding me HK is recognized to be one of the best public transit systems in the world. There is no other major city in the world that has a +90% modal share in public transit. The MTR is heavy used (top ten in ridership), efficient (80,000 ppl/hour/direction capacity highest in the world), punctual (99% timeliness rate), makes money (one of the only 5 metro systems that achives an operational profit with a 135% cost recovery ratio) and clean. Things the Dubai can only wish and dream of with is cute 6% modal share. What is this? Texas? HK doesn't need investment in its public transport system; It's a public transport system that invests in it self, which is a more sustainable model for the future.


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Excuse me?
No excuse me. Can you pick an older picture, please?
How about I post a photo of the Al Fahid Fort 30 years ago?

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HK?! From distance it looks futuristic, but not so, when you in the city: apartment buildings looks shabby, streets not so clean and needs more investment in to the public transport, better organisation.
If you watched blade runner you would know that the future can be very scrappy.

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That's futuristic, Its called Cyberpunk. Just compare those to scenes in Ghost in the Shell, Psychopass, Blame!, and Burst Angel. You know sci fi flicks about the future?
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Old July 11th, 2013, 06:24 PM   #1280
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Dubai is certainly not futuristic on the inside. Compare walking in Seoul, Tokyo, Shanghai or Hong Kong which is like a crazy neon disco trip with lots of life and tall buildings. To Dubai which is just tall buildings... whoop de doooo. That would give it points for being futuristic on the outside but it still pales in comparison to HK or Shenzhen.
Try to walk down SZR( financial district) and you will understand what calls really futuristic.

P.s. so much anger in your post... I mean, every person has he's own point of view, and everyone can have a right o love Hong kong/ Dubai or not. It is just a matter of taste.
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