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Kangar (capital) 59 49.17%
PadangBesar (M`sia and Thai border Duty free) 35 29.17%
Arau (Royal town) 6 5.00%
Kuala Perlis (Ferry terminal) 20 16.67%
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Old September 20th, 2005, 07:34 AM   #41
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I do not agree that there should be a bridge to Langkawi. In fact it is not the govt (central nor state) that mooted out this proposal. It is from a foreign firm

Langkawi in my honest opinion should be an 'island'. Any attempt to linked it physically with the mainland would spoil its charms often associated with an island. We must all bear in mind that Langkawi isn't Penang or Phuket so a bridge shouldn't be built. A bridge to Langkawi would also spoil its natural beauty

ANyway back to topic ......

I think Perlis should develop Kuala Perlis mosr to attract more people to the state. Then only its spill effect could be seen in places like Kangar. Yea......I know many of you guys might think that the rise of Kuala Perlis only benefits Langkawi more but hey......if Langkawi benefits, Perlis would too as it is the 'gateway' to the island. We mustn't say that everything that benefits Langkawi must be stopped in order to develope Perlis. Whatever happened to prosper thy neighbour?

Seriously.....if Langkawi we're to cease to exist.....Perlis would even be ignored more. Who says a gateway can't benefit? Look at Lumut and Sitiawan being the gateway to Pangkor! It is a smaller version of what could happen to Langkawi and Perlis
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Old September 20th, 2005, 08:14 AM   #42
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A tiny state like perlis should be left alone, let it grow organically.
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Old September 21st, 2005, 05:50 PM   #43
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A tiny state like perlis should be left alone, let it grow organically.

is that mean to keep what perlis have now to future?
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Old September 21st, 2005, 06:35 PM   #44
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I do not agree that there should be a bridge to Langkawi. In fact it is not the govt (central nor state) that mooted out this proposal. It is from a foreign firm

Langkawi in my honest opinion should be an 'island'. Any attempt to linked it physically with the mainland would spoil its charms often associated with an island. We must all bear in mind that Langkawi isn't Penang or Phuket so a bridge shouldn't be built. A bridge to Langkawi would also spoil its natural beauty

ANyway back to topic ......

I think Perlis should develop Kuala Perlis mosr to attract more people to the state. Then only its spill effect could be seen in places like Kangar. Yea......I know many of you guys might think that the rise of Kuala Perlis only benefits Langkawi more but hey......if Langkawi benefits, Perlis would too as it is the 'gateway' to the island. We mustn't say that everything that benefits Langkawi must be stopped in order to develope Perlis. Whatever happened to prosper thy neighbour?

Seriously.....if Langkawi we're to cease to exist.....Perlis would even be ignored more. Who says a gateway can't benefit? Look at Lumut and Sitiawan being the gateway to Pangkor! It is a smaller version of what could happen to Langkawi and Perlis

another disagree LK bridge.

kuala perlis have a strong compitition form another port (Kuala Kedah)
kuala kedah is near to alor star, two of these area are almost merge together, form a more large area than Kangar-Kuala perlis.more potential and more population.
want i want to say is, most of developer choice AS-Kuala kedah area.
then what should plan in kuala perlis? industry? tourism? or all?
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Old September 21st, 2005, 06:35 PM   #45
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I do not agree that there should be a bridge to Langkawi. In fact it is not the govt (central nor state) that mooted out this proposal. It is from a foreign firm

Langkawi in my honest opinion should be an 'island'. Any attempt to linked it physically with the mainland would spoil its charms often associated with an island. We must all bear in mind that Langkawi isn't Penang or Phuket so a bridge shouldn't be built. A bridge to Langkawi would also spoil its natural beauty

ANyway back to topic ......

I think Perlis should develop Kuala Perlis mosr to attract more people to the state. Then only its spill effect could be seen in places like Kangar. Yea......I know many of you guys might think that the rise of Kuala Perlis only benefits Langkawi more but hey......if Langkawi benefits, Perlis would too as it is the 'gateway' to the island. We mustn't say that everything that benefits Langkawi must be stopped in order to develope Perlis. Whatever happened to prosper thy neighbour?

Seriously.....if Langkawi we're to cease to exist.....Perlis would even be ignored more. Who says a gateway can't benefit? Look at Lumut and Sitiawan being the gateway to Pangkor! It is a smaller version of what could happen to Langkawi and Perlis

another disagree LK bridge.

kuala perlis have a strong compitition form another port (Kuala Kedah)
kuala kedah is near to alor star, two of these area are almost merge together, form a more large area than Kangar-Kuala perlis.more potential and more population.
want i want to say is, most of developer choice AS-Kuala kedah area.
then what should plan in kuala perlis? industry? tourism? or.....?
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Old September 21st, 2005, 07:54 PM   #46
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Who said Perlis MB is not doing anything for perlis ??

He is a polygamy fighter! He want more children to breed in perlis. Hence, those born there r lucky, coz u can marry more than 1.
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Old September 21st, 2005, 11:42 PM   #47
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that's why perlis is so backwards because he thinks with the little head between his legs!
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Old September 22nd, 2005, 01:57 AM   #48
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I am Thai from the North, When we think of Perlis , we think of Padang Besar , Langawi, Tarutao islands and of course a lovely small province of Satun, the only Malay province of Thailand that never wanted an independence from Bangkok (at least from the historical point of view), unlike its neighboring malay provinces of Pattani, Yala and Narathiwat that shows strong resistance to Bangkok since the annexation by Siam in 1902.

Maybe this is a bit out of topic but Could anybody from the otherside of the border please tell me why there is no such turmoil/violence in the province on the west coast opposite to Perlis or Langawi (at least not even a single bomb incident report on this province) but an absolute turmoil to the provinces on the east coast next to Kelantan?? Givin the fact that the majority of both of them are the same (ethic Malays) and speak the same dialact (Yawi) and of course no differences in GDP per head. Does it has anything to do with Kelantan and Perlis history and their relationship with Siam?

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Old September 22nd, 2005, 05:27 AM   #49
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Interesting point you have there! .....I am not entirely sure.....maybe the west coast people are more peace-loving because they faced the beautiful Andaman Sea?

Anyway my perspective is that maybe because the east coast southern Thailand Malay states are closer to the ex-seat-of-govt of Pattaya which had been annexed by Bangkok over a hundred years ago The proximity to the govt means more political clout and stronger nationalism.......
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Old September 22nd, 2005, 05:59 PM   #50
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citizen in perlis especially in Padang Besar Malaysia, they always spend in in Thailand, like eat breakfast, dinner and etc, there is much of buisness trade between Padangbesar Malaysia ang PadangBesar Thailand, although they are different background, but they look like closely and friendship,there is something unique relationship between them but hope this can last long and forever.WORLD FOR PEACE!!!

Actually border town in Malaysia and Thailand are same name(Padang Besar), i don`t know why it is same, maybe because of this reason, they dont want fight each other.
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citizen in perlis especially in Padang Besar Malaysia, they always spend in in Thailand, like eat breakfast, dinner and etc, there is much of buisness trade between Padangbesar Malaysia ang PadangBesar Thailand, although they are different background, but they look like closely and friendship,there is something unique relationship between them but hope this can last long and forever.WORLD FOR PEACE!!!

Actually border town in Malaysia and Thailand are same name(Padang Besar), i don`t know why it is same, maybe because of this reason, they dont want fight each other.
The reason they have the same name because they are the same group of people, ethnically, linguistically and cuturally. The 4.5 millions muslims in southern Thailand are actually Malay, in my opinion I think they are now even more Malay than the Malays in Malaysia. I m glad you brought this issue up. It's not just the Thai-Malay border towns that share the same name but actually the majority of Southern Thai provinces' names are the transliterated versions of the Malay words ;such as Bukit (Thai = Phuket), Patani (=Pattani), Menara (=Narathiwat), Jala (=Yala), Ligor (= Na Khon), Singgora (= Song Khla) , Tabal (= Tak Bai) , Bendang Setar (= Ban Nang Satar) and Jering (= Ya Ring) and many many more , you name it.
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Interesting point you have there! .....I am not entirely sure.....maybe the west coast people are more peace-loving because they faced the beautiful Andaman Sea?

Anyway my perspective is that maybe because the east coast southern Thailand Malay states are closer to the ex-seat-of-govt of Pattaya which had been annexed by Bangkok over a hundred years ago The proximity to the govt means more political clout and stronger nationalism.......
I agree with you because the royal capital was at Patani, where all natioanlism clusters until the present day.
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Old September 25th, 2005, 04:47 PM   #53
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but why there want to indepent?
this were not bring peace to them and Bangkok !!!
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Old September 26th, 2005, 05:38 AM   #54
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i have a idea to stimulate economic in Perlis
this is just a idea...
let PadangBesar(M`sia) and PadangBesar(Thailand) be a special economic area, which mean both citizen can free move(no border pass just need some check) 5Km in M`sia and 5km in Thailand, both centre government can declare there is a duty free area,build some unique resort,and control sex industry like what Singapore do, this maybe can attract many of tourism and can be a area for Thailand and Malaysia goods or economic interchange.

do u all think this ok???

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That is not possible due to the risk of smuggling or money laundering which is a big thing here in SEA. Although we could 'quarantine' Padang Besar as thru your idea but it would be a massive undertaking that could deplete the resources out our customs and immigration department.

And too bad that we can't have a controlled sex industry here due to religion sensitivity although I would like to see the govt to do so

But your idea is a good one .....just that it is not feasible at this time .......

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Old September 26th, 2005, 02:54 PM   #56
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i had think about this 2 years ago... haha... nth to do, so think it..
i still had think it more detail but...didn`t write the idea out.
smunggling can prevent through set some law, increase salary for border customs and immigration department.
like build a casino with natural theme there, but customer enter to casino shoud limit and awfully control( can attract rich ppl spend thr ).
sex industry also can awfully control, for example in singapore.
i know this should not lawful in M`sia, but this can lawful and awfully control by Thailand government.

if both govenment like to do this, this can be access.
but should plan it properly.
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Old September 26th, 2005, 03:10 PM   #57
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increase salary for border customs and immigration department.
The richer you are, the greedy you are.
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Old September 26th, 2005, 03:29 PM   #58
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The richer you are, the greedy you are.

Not really. It is a proven tactic in countries like Singapore and HK where civil servants are highly paid to weed out corruption.
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Not really. It is a proven tactic in countries like Singapore and HK where civil servants are highly paid to weed out corruption.
Well, malaysian civil servants working culture are not same as singapore and hk. We demand $$$ but demand lesser work.
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Well, malaysian civil servants working culture are not same as singapore and hk. We demand $$$ but demand lesser work.
malaysian civil servants want too much bonuses
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