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AJR · December 8th, 2006, 12:16 PM

I can't quite fathom it. There was a large hole, but that has been filled in with rubble. The only encouraging sign is the main contractors name on the hoardings namely Robert McAlpine. I guess there must be some logic to it somewhere. Then again it has been at least a week since I last saw the site.

Biosonic · December 8th, 2006, 12:38 PM

I guess they are carrying out ground improvements?

Neal · December 9th, 2006, 03:23 AM

we are currently preparing to pile the ground starting next week.

there are 2 levels of basement, excavation of the sub-basement will commence once the piling is complete.

someone said they thought the frame was steel, it is actually post tensioned concrete slabs (if that means anything to anyone) within a wholly concrete frame. There will be some steelwork framing to the roof plantrooms, but nowhere else.

glad to hear some people like the design, it is apparently going to be the first Cat A office development in Birmingham.

feltip · December 9th, 2006, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal

glad to hear some people like the design, it is apparently going to be the first Cat A office development in Birmingham.

Sorry, Cat A ?
If you mean A graded office value then your a little late as Post and Mail is A graded and will be open before you and there are others around.

Good snippets of info though, do you work for contractors?

Neal · December 9th, 2006, 04:11 AM

Cat A refers to the 'fit-out' of the building, in terms of the specification.

and yes I do

Engels · December 9th, 2006, 12:44 PM

I was under the impression that all of Brindley place was Grade A office space

Is this "Cat A" different then i'm still confused

Erebus555 · December 9th, 2006, 01:40 PM

Too many categories and grades floating around here. Baskerville House is Grade A as well...

U475 Foxtrot · December 10th, 2006, 12:01 PM

You're confusing the grading description of office space Grade A, B & C with the fitting out stages.

Cat A - Developer / Landlord fit-out works (cores, common parts,etc)
Cat B - Tenants fit-out works

Cat 2 is also a description of light fitting (the shiney reflective ones in offices). New lighting regs came in a couple of years back governing office lighting and these were called LG3. They were not practical to apply (the fall back position being Cat 2) and so were rewritten to LG7.

and then there's the Listing Grades...

Erebus555 · December 10th, 2006, 12:07 PM

Aha, thanks for clearing that up for us Foxy!

U475 Foxtrot · December 10th, 2006, 12:33 PM

Grade A office space - New or recent build, large flexible floorplates to high specification
Grade B office space - Typically refurshished 70's / 80's office space which is practical and adaptable.
Grade C office space - Older stock offering only basic accomodation with a tendancy to be outdated

Blunther · December 11th, 2006, 11:03 AM

Thanks for the info Neal

Biosonic · December 11th, 2006, 08:17 PM

I've been inspired to name future pets "Cat A" and "Cat B"

fruit&nut · January 2nd, 2007, 11:56 AM

HAven't seen this corner of Birmingham look this good in years, ie without that damned awful carbunkle that was there before.

Pic is from opposite corner (obviously) - piling rig on site!

fruit&nut · January 2nd, 2007, 11:56 AM

HAven't seen this corner of Birmingham look this good in years, ie without that damned awful carbunkle that was there before.

Pic is from opposite corner (obviously) - piling rig on site!

fruit&nut · January 2nd, 2007, 11:58 AM

PS - yes i know the focus is crap, but I've come to the conclusion it may be the operator and not the camera!

Do you know who I bumped into at Specsavers?

EVERYBODY!!!!!!!

Yes, the jokes are worse than the pictures, but I think I may have to consider some double glazing of my own!!

Bachy Soletanche · February 5th, 2007, 12:19 AM

err.. where's the drill gone?

blahblah · February 17th, 2007, 03:08 PM

That is some mobile crane!

Erebus555 · February 17th, 2007, 03:10 PM

Jesus! It's a brute! Interesting to see what's going to be happening over the next few weeks.

blahblah · February 17th, 2007, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erebus555

Jesus! It's a brute! Interesting to see what's going to be happening over the next few weeks.

Yeah. I'd only gone into town to try and get a textbook. Walked out of WHSmith, and saw that thing. Looked like it was sticking out of my beloved Grand Hotel so I had to investigate further. Tower crane itself looks like it's gonna be a biggy judging by the ammount of trucks parked around the site with the various bits on them.

Engels · February 17th, 2007, 03:23 PM

I'll have to have a look when i get into town later on. Does anybody have any idea of the schedule for this... what's the prospective completion date?

December 8th, 2006, 12:38 PM	#82
Biosonic Second Citizen Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Birmingham Posts: 14,320 Likes (Received): 2	I guess they are carrying out ground improvements? __________________ Birmingham.Brilliance

December 9th, 2006, 12:44 PM	#86
Engels Simples Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 4,098 Likes (Received): 7	I was under the impression that all of Brindley place was Grade A office space Is this "Cat A" different then i'm still confused __________________ You were born poor, naked and helpless. Everything in your life was given to you, the food you ate, the clothes you wore, the shelter you received. Most importantly of all you received an education. You were given this because people loved you, because people you never knew worked to feed you and long before you were born people died to protect you and to give you the opportunities they never had. Life doesn't owe you anything! YOU owe life!

December 9th, 2006, 01:40 PM	#87
Erebus555 It's Sting. So What? Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bristol Posts: 31,246 Likes (Received): 4	Too many categories and grades floating around here. Baskerville House is Grade A as well... __________________ The UK Housing Wiki - Attempting to document every tower block, council estate, private estate, housing association, tower block construction/ demolition method, tower block architect, tower block construction company... etc etc, in the UK. Everything to do with postwar residences! - Please join and help! EREBUS - OFFICIAL MOD CANDIDATE 2011 - BRITISH MODS FOR BRITISH PEOPLE!

December 10th, 2006, 12:07 PM	#89
Erebus555 It's Sting. So What? Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bristol Posts: 31,246 Likes (Received): 4	Aha, thanks for clearing that up for us Foxy! __________________ The UK Housing Wiki - Attempting to document every tower block, council estate, private estate, housing association, tower block construction/ demolition method, tower block architect, tower block construction company... etc etc, in the UK. Everything to do with postwar residences! - Please join and help! EREBUS - OFFICIAL MOD CANDIDATE 2011 - BRITISH MODS FOR BRITISH PEOPLE!

December 11th, 2006, 08:17 PM	#92
Biosonic Second Citizen Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Birmingham Posts: 14,320 Likes (Received): 2	I've been inspired to name future pets "Cat A" and "Cat B" __________________ Birmingham.Brilliance

December 8th, 2006, 12:16 PM	#81
AJR Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Erdington,Birmingham Posts: 175 Likes (Received): 0	I can't quite fathom it. There was a large hole, but that has been filled in with rubble. The only encouraging sign is the main contractors name on the hoardings namely Robert McAlpine. I guess there must be some logic to it somewhere. Then again it has been at least a week since I last saw the site.

December 9th, 2006, 03:23 AM	#83
Neal Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Birmingham Posts: 8 Likes (Received): 0	we are currently preparing to pile the ground starting next week. there are 2 levels of basement, excavation of the sub-basement will commence once the piling is complete. someone said they thought the frame was steel, it is actually post tensioned concrete slabs (if that means anything to anyone) within a wholly concrete frame. There will be some steelwork framing to the roof plantrooms, but nowhere else. glad to hear some people like the design, it is apparently going to be the first Cat A office development in Birmingham.

December 9th, 2006, 04:11 AM	#85
Neal Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Birmingham Posts: 8 Likes (Received): 0	Cat A refers to the 'fit-out' of the building, in terms of the specification. and yes I do

December 10th, 2006, 12:01 PM	#88
U475 Foxtrot Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,195 Likes (Received): 2	You're confusing the grading description of office space Grade A, B & C with the fitting out stages. Cat A - Developer / Landlord fit-out works (cores, common parts,etc) Cat B - Tenants fit-out works Cat 2 is also a description of light fitting (the shiney reflective ones in offices). New lighting regs came in a couple of years back governing office lighting and these were called LG3. They were not practical to apply (the fall back position being Cat 2) and so were rewritten to LG7. and then there's the Listing Grades...

December 10th, 2006, 12:33 PM	#90
U475 Foxtrot Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,195 Likes (Received): 2	Grade A office space - New or recent build, large flexible floorplates to high specification Grade B office space - Typically refurshished 70's / 80's office space which is practical and adaptable. Grade C office space - Older stock offering only basic accomodation with a tendancy to be outdated

December 11th, 2006, 11:03 AM	#91
Blunther Kebab Whore Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Brummagem, Weoley Castle Posts: 3,017 Likes (Received): 0	Thanks for the info Neal

January 2nd, 2007, 11:56 AM	#93
fruit&nut A glass and a half... Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,581 Likes (Received): 3	HAven't seen this corner of Birmingham look this good in years, ie without that damned awful carbunkle that was there before. Pic is from opposite corner (obviously) - piling rig on site!

January 2nd, 2007, 11:58 AM	#95
fruit&nut A glass and a half... Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,581 Likes (Received): 3	PS - yes i know the focus is crap, but I've come to the conclusion it may be the operator and not the camera! Do you know who I bumped into at Specsavers? EVERYBODY!!!!!!! Yes, the jokes are worse than the pictures, but I think I may have to consider some double glazing of my own!!

February 5th, 2007, 12:19 AM	#96
Bachy Soletanche Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 14,597 Likes (Received): 174	err.. where's the drill gone? __________________ We do not need to return anywhere, we are already in all the places we have ever been

February 17th, 2007, 03:08 PM	#97
blahblah Change is Here! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Greater Birmingham Posts: 3,714 Likes (Received): 0	Tower Crane Going Up 17/2/07 That is some mobile crane! __________________ I yam. Therefore I am.

February 17th, 2007, 03:10 PM	#98
Erebus555 It's Sting. So What? Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bristol Posts: 31,246 Likes (Received): 4	Jesus! It's a brute! Interesting to see what's going to be happening over the next few weeks. __________________ The UK Housing Wiki - Attempting to document every tower block, council estate, private estate, housing association, tower block construction/ demolition method, tower block architect, tower block construction company... etc etc, in the UK. Everything to do with postwar residences! - Please join and help! EREBUS - OFFICIAL MOD CANDIDATE 2011 - BRITISH MODS FOR BRITISH PEOPLE!

February 17th, 2007, 03:23 PM	#100
Engels Simples Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 4,098 Likes (Received): 7	I'll have to have a look when i get into town later on. Does anybody have any idea of the schedule for this... what's the prospective completion date? __________________ You were born poor, naked and helpless. Everything in your life was given to you, the food you ate, the clothes you wore, the shelter you received. Most importantly of all you received an education. You were given this because people loved you, because people you never knew worked to feed you and long before you were born people died to protect you and to give you the opportunities they never had. Life doesn't owe you anything! YOU owe life!

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