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Old November 21st, 2005, 02:51 PM   #21
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Hai..... Sometimes i go to Penang with my family.... But eveytime i go, i just felt bored there... no any new attraction really. Even worse, the traffic was unbearable, can stuck at the road for almost 30 minutes, the bridge too. Well, i think penang shoul undergo a BIG operation so that it can holds its title of Pearl of the East.....
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Old November 21st, 2005, 03:37 PM   #22
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Hai..... Sometimes i go to Penang with my family.... But eveytime i go, i just felt bored there... no any new attraction really. Even worse, the traffic was unbearable, can stuck at the road for almost 30 minutes, the bridge too. Well, i think penang shoul undergo a BIG operation so that it can holds its title of Pearl of the East.....
You're right or else it will become the peril of the east and we will regress to the early 70's that was associated with the collapse of the state economy
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Old November 22nd, 2005, 11:08 AM   #23
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I can vividly recall the apathetic CM mentioning that constrcution of the Ring Road will commence soon on a few occassions in the last few years but nothing happened. That's why i am not inclined to take what he said seriously. Commencement of the widening have been mentioned a few times as well and there was even a tendering process in 2002. Unfortunately, this CM is just so indifferent to public opinion until he doesnt realize that his failure to implement more than 90% of the proposed infrastructure projects is destroying Penang competitiveness for foreign investment and also it's livability as if even Malaysia can afford to lose all the electronics factories and not have a profound impact on it's GDP . How many infrastructure projects are being carried out in Penang now? two maybe?the marina and the Jelutong expressway when most other cities of lower densities are carrying out a lot more. The CM really deserves a place in the guiness books of records for the unprecdented amount of appalling fallacies that he was so instrumental in creating.
agree wiv u some points...
But, alot of huge projects is being carry out by the goverment, Not only Marina and the Jelutong express way as u mentioned above. Mutiara Bay ( Penang Putrajaya), Penang Cybercity, BUtterworth Outer Ring Road (BORR), Kepala Batas (Mini Putajaya), Pulau Jerejak (A new tourism) and etc...these r some of the huge projects which are on the track..

Small projects like, beautifying the Gurney Drive, and Penang Gold Bazzar, Municipal Park..has been carried out too.

No doubt, some of the projects like Monorail, second link, and Widening the Penang bridge, although has been mentioned for some times, but no work has been done. I feel ashame to their action too...

But, sometimes, penangits have to put some responsibility, if penangits and some of the social societies do not complain too much, never put away their selfishness..i'm sure, those projects will not consume such long time and untill now, is yet to carry out..
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Old November 23rd, 2005, 04:57 AM   #24
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Mini Putrajaya it's for thier own benefit not ours therefore it is not an infrastructure project and i dont see any point of lambasting them any further on that. BORR doesnt sound any more viable to me than the Butterworth Kulim Expressway. I used to drive on that regularly and you can count the number of vehicles that came from the other side throughout the whole stretch. Beautfying Gurney Drive etc, come on the money can be better spend on something else as there are more infrastructures projects that have to be implemented more urgently and beautification is not an infrastructure project. Howver, i do agree with you that some selfish Penangties have to take responsibilities for the delay in PORR as they objected to the project using very mundane reasons
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Mini Putrajaya it's for thier own benefit not ours therefore it is not an infrastructure project and i dont see any point of lambasting them any further on that. BORR doesnt sound any more viable to me than the Butterworth Kulim Expressway. I used to drive on that regularly and you can count the number of vehicles that came from the other side throughout the whole stretch. Beautfying Gurney Drive etc, come on the money can be better spend on something else as there are more infrastructures projects that have to be implemented more urgently and beautification is not an infrastructure project. Howver, i do agree with you that some selfish Penangties have to take responsibilities for the delay in PORR as they objected to the project using very mundane reasons

Mini Putrajaya
1 of the purpose of the project is to concentrate all the government offices, i guess this for sure will benefit the Penangits..
Second, it try to ease the traffic in the downtown..the mini Putrajaya is located at Bayan Lepas, we have Costal Road, and just completed elavated highway there, therefore, i guess this will help to cope with the traffic in the future, when the goverment office woved to there..

Well for BORR, it is just like another PORR...it is almost completed..if i'm not mistaken is next year i'm sure it definitely will boost the economic of Butterworth. It is actually a long-term plan so as Butterworth Kulim Expressway.

Beautifying Gurney Drive..
Oo..money have to spend on Gurney Drive, as it is one of the Penang Tourist attraction. This project is concentrate on widening the road of Gurney Drive, and the food court area but not the pedestrain pathway...so, i guess it is counted as infrastructure project

I do think some other infrastructure projects should be carried out immediately, like Widening the Penang Bridge, but other projects which i hav mentioned above, are equally imporatant, the purpose of those projects are to cope with the traffic too...but of course it is not long-term plan, so as widening the Penang Bridge. The long-term plan should be Penang Monorail. And i hope the government don't delay it anymore.
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Not many mega projects in Penang has been carried out in my opinion. Projects like Jelutong Expressway, Penang Hill Cable Car, 2nd Penang Bridge, PORR etc. are all being planned since Dr Lim Chong Eu's era. By now, what do we have? Julutong Expressway ONLY!! and just half of Jelutong Expressway is completed and the other half is not going to open until the next year or so. by right these projects are supposed to be completed a decade ago.

about Penang Cybercity, it should have been acclaimed the status much earlier. actually, a few months before Penang got it's Cybercity, there was an article about the factories threatening to relocate if the Cybercity was further delayed. just glad that the status was awarded just in time. now i just hope that the facilities in the Cybercity will be properly maintained.

now, beautification projects. it is a good thing, no doubt. however, i wonder if the government know anything about priority?? loosing investors and tourists is more important or looking beautiful is more important?? the money should have been spent on infrastructure.

"city" or better call it "town" planning in Penang is very short sighted in my opinion. even JB's planning seems more far sighted and promising. JB is now expanding it's airport, and has a very extremely successful port of PTP. Penang's airport was the busiest after KL. now it has loosed out to KKIA and if nothing is done, probably Senai will overtake it in the future. Penang port is also going down hill. just look at the emerging ports of Kuantan and Bintulu. but please don't compare to PTP as it is embarrassing

another example would be the Penang monorail. they are building 2 lines for the whole island?? JB is planning to have monorail, LRT and MRT in their Structure Plan. much smaller Kuching is also going to have monorail. if they are to stick to the original 2 lines, don't hope that the traffic problems will be solved.

Penangites love to complain, which is very true because i love to complain as well actually complaining is good but too much of it is irritating and jeopardises the states development.
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Mini Putrajaya
1 of the purpose of the project is to concentrate all the government offices, i guess this for sure will benefit the Penangits..
Second, it try to ease the traffic in the downtown..the mini Putrajaya is located at Bayan Lepas, we have Costal Road, and just completed elavated highway there, therefore, i guess this will help to cope with the traffic in the future, when the goverment office woved to there..
err..concentrate?? it is more like dispersing it is a good idea in a sense that it would ease traffic jams in the city centre, like you have mentioned. yet, building new offices means this: $$$ KOMTAR is still in a state of neglect. i wonder if our beloved CM is happy with the condition of his office.... building new offices in Bayan Mutiara means more buildings to maintain. i'm so sure that they will do a great job in maintainence since KOMTAR is maintained so very well
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[QUOTE=TYW]Not many mega projects in Penang has been carried out in my opinion. Projects like Jelutong Expressway, Penang Hill Cable Car, 2nd Penang Bridge, PORR etc. are all being planned since Dr Lim Chong Eu's era. By now, what do we have? Julutong Expressway ONLY!! and just half of Jelutong Expressway is completed and the other half is not going to open until the next year or so. by right these projects are supposed to be completed a decade ago.

about Penang Cybercity, it should have been acclaimed the status much earlier. actually, a few months before Penang got it's Cybercity, there was an article about the factories threatening to relocate if the Cybercity was further delayed. just glad that the status was awarded just in time. now i just hope that the facilities in the Cybercity will be properly maintained.

now, beautification projects. it is a good thing, no doubt. however, i wonder if the government know anything about priority?? loosing investors and tourists is more important or looking beautiful is more important?? the money should have been spent on infrastructure.

"city" or better call it "town" planning in Penang is very short sighted in my opinion. even JB's planning seems more far sighted and promising. JB is now expanding it's airport, and has a very extremely successful port of PTP. Penang's airport was the busiest after KL. now it has loosed out to KKIA and if nothing is done, probably Senai will overtake it in the future. Penang port is also going down hill. just look at the emerging ports of Kuantan and Bintulu. but please don't compare to PTP as it is embarrassing

another example would be the Penang monorail. they are building 2 lines for the whole island?? JB is planning to have monorail, LRT and MRT in their Structure Plan. much smaller Kuching is also going to have monorail. if they are to stick to the original 2 lines, don't hope that the traffic problems will be solved.

Penangites love to complain, which is very true because i love to complain as well actually complaining is good but too much of it is irritating and jeopardises the states development.[/Q

Penang Airport is ranked fourth in Malaysia in terms of passengers volums behind KK and Kuching. What a joke. The decrease in the number of international tourists is substansial as well. I agree with you. The government should be a lot more worried about losing investors and toursits instead of making the place look good. Many tourists look for authentic and aesthetics not some artificial decoration that you can get anywheere in the world. thefefore, making the place more beautiful is not going to change anything. I'm sure all of them are more concerned about the availability and condition of the infrastrucure rather than the beauty. That's why it is imperative that they implement these infrastruture projects without delay. Penang is losing a lot of foreign investments. The drop is so substansial until MAS has to stop flights from Tokyo and Osaka to Penang because quite a number of Japanese factories relocated. I do admit that the JE and BORR were implemented but it just shows their inability to prioritise. BORR can be delayed for another few years but PORR cant even afford a delay of a few months. I can believe that this CM even has the guts to talk about a miniputrajaya when the money can be spend on roads or monorials that have to be built. KOMTAR will also be completely devoid of activity if that happens and that's the last thing KOMTAR needs right now after the mass exodus of shops. Frankly speaking, i think an economic slump in Penang is inevitable unless drastic changes are made and this include the resignation of the CM
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Not many mega projects in Penang has been carried out in my opinion. Projects like Jelutong Expressway, Penang Hill Cable Car, 2nd Penang Bridge, PORR etc. are all being planned since Dr Lim Chong Eu's era. By now, what do we have? Julutong Expressway ONLY!! and just half of Jelutong Expressway is completed and the other half is not going to open until the next year or so. by right these projects are supposed to be completed a decade ago.

about Penang Cybercity, it should have been acclaimed the status much earlier. actually, a few months before Penang got it's Cybercity, there was an article about the factories threatening to relocate if the Cybercity was further delayed. just glad that the status was awarded just in time. now i just hope that the facilities in the Cybercity will be properly maintained.

now, beautification projects. it is a good thing, no doubt. however, i wonder if the government know anything about priority?? loosing investors and tourists is more important or looking beautiful is more important?? the money should have been spent on infrastructure.

"city" or better call it "town" planning in Penang is very short sighted in my opinion. even JB's planning seems more far sighted and promising. JB is now expanding it's airport, and has a very extremely successful port of PTP. Penang's airport was the busiest after KL. now it has loosed out to KKIA and if nothing is done, probably Senai will overtake it in the future. Penang port is also going down hill. just look at the emerging ports of Kuantan and Bintulu. but please don't compare to PTP as it is embarrassing

another example would be the Penang monorail. they are building 2 lines for the whole island?? JB is planning to have monorail, LRT and MRT in their Structure Plan. much smaller Kuching is also going to have monorail. if they are to stick to the original 2 lines, don't hope that the traffic problems will be solved.

Penangites love to complain, which is very true because i love to complain as well actually complaining is good but too much of it is irritating and jeopardises the states development.[/Q

Penang Airport is ranked fourth in Malaysia in terms of passengers volums behind KK and Kuching. What a joke. The decrease in the number of international tourists is substansial as well. I agree with you. The government should be a lot more worried about losing investors and toursits instead of making the place look good. Many tourists look for authentic and aesthetics not some artificial decoration that you can get anywheere in the world. thefefore, making the place more beautiful is not going to change anything. I'm sure all of them are more concerned about the availability and condition of the infrastrucure rather than the beauty. That's why it is imperative that they implement these infrastruture projects without delay. Penang is losing a lot of foreign investments. The drop is so substansial until MAS has to stop flights from Tokyo and Osaka to Penang because quite a number of Japanese factories relocated. I do admit that the JE and BORR were implemented but it just shows their inability to prioritise. BORR can be delayed for another few years but PORR cant even afford a delay of a few months. I can believe that this CM even has the guts to talk about a miniputrajaya when the money can be spend on roads or monorials that have to be built. KOMTAR will also be completely devoid of activity if that happens and that's the last thing KOMTAR needs right now after the mass exodus of shops. Frankly speaking, i think an economic slump in Penang is inevitable unless drastic changes are made and this include the resignation of the CM

I personally do not think that the CM is that inefficient. The problems in Penang that you have stated is overly exaggerated in some ways but i still agree with some of them though. After all i notice that Penang is actually moving forward and not backwards! No state government is perfect and comparing them with the other states, i would still say they are doing a good job.
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I personally do not think that the CM is that inefficient. The problems in Penang that you have stated is overly exaggerated in some ways but i still agree with some of them though. After all i notice that Penang is actually moving forward and not backwards! No state government is perfect and comparing them with the other states, i would still say they are doing a good job.
in my opinion, Penang is indeed moving forwards, but very slowly. other states is moving faster, that's why the decline in Penang.

well, i'm saying this, not to say Penang is a bad place to be in or the CM is hopeless. i'm just hoping for the best for our beloved Penang
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in my opinion, Penang is indeed moving forwards, but very slowly. other states is moving faster, that's why the decline in Penang.

well, i'm saying this, not to say Penang is a bad place to be in or the CM is hopeless. i'm just hoping for the best for our beloved Penang
yeah, i believe that there must always be some constructive criticism on the part of the government in order for the state/country to move forward but at times we must not take it too far as if the development status is that terrible. Look at how fortunate Penangites are to be able to enjoy all the RECENT developments. I don't see anything like that being carried out in the past so this could be a clear indication that the state government have heeded the public's call to buck up though several problems remained unsolved but we should give them an opportunity or maybe some time to prove themselves.
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yeah, i believe that there must always be some constructive criticism on the part of the government in order for the state/country to move forward but at times we must not take it too far as if the development status is that terrible. Look at how fortunate Penangites are to be able to enjoy all the RECENT developments. I don't see anything like that being carried out in the past so this could be a clear indication that the state government have heeded the public's call to buck up though several problems remained unsolved but we should give them an opportunity or maybe some time to prove themselves.

What do you mean when you said that you didnt see anything like that being carried out in the past?Most if not all the vital infrastructure projects were carried out during the tenure of Lim Chong Eu. Penang Bridge and the widening of a substansial amount of roads. Since then infrastructure project has barely kept pace with developement. What infrastructure projects on the island can be associated with this current CM? widening of the Tanjung Bunga main road and Jelutong expressway in almost 15 years. The most congested roads in Penang havent been upgraded for years while many more road projects were carried out in JB. The majority of Penang's roads are congested whereas congestion doesnt extent to the majority of the roads in KL and JB (only a few). I do admit that they must be given a chance to prove themselves but i've lost count of the number of times he announced the impending construction of the Ring Road and we end up seeing nothing.
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What do you mean when you said that you didnt see anything like that being carried out in the past?Most if not all the vital infrastructure projects were carried out during the tenure of Lim Chong Eu. Penang Bridge and the widening of a substansial amount of roads. Since then infrastructure project has barely kept pace with developement. What infrastructure projects on the island can be associated with this current CM? widening of the Tanjung Bunga main road and Jelutong expressway in almost 15 years. The most congested roads in Penang havent been upgraded for years while many more road projects were carried out in JB. The majority of Penang's roads are congested whereas congestion doesnt extent to the majority of the roads in KL and JB (only a few). I do admit that they must be given a chance to prove themselves but i've lost count of the number of times he announced the impending construction of the Ring Road and we end up seeing nothing.
Speaking bout the infrastructures, Jelutong Expressway was planned long time ago but at least it's finally being carried out and the development is pretty fast since development work started. The allevated highway in Bayan Baru is one important highway recently contructed during the current CM's tenure. What bout the coastal highway and Bukit Gambir/ Yeap Chor Ee road? Isn't it carried out under this CM? However probably the other developments i've noticed were carried out by private companies and not the government. Whatever it is i can assure you that Penang is still moving forward.
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Not many mega projects in Penang has been carried out in my opinion. Projects like Jelutong Expressway, Penang Hill Cable Car, 2nd Penang Bridge, PORR etc. are all being planned since Dr Lim Chong Eu's era. By now, what do we have? Julutong Expressway ONLY!! and just half of Jelutong Expressway is completed and the other half is not going to open until the next year or so. by right these projects are supposed to be completed a decade ago.
Not many?? how many u wish to have??i think our projects has the same no. as KL and JB, forget about comparing which project is the best. Every state have their own plan, perancangan bandar. And this plan is last for few years. Dr. Lim Chong Eu plan this in the early year, that means he has foresight. It dosen't means that this project is planned by who and must be completed in the years when he is still CM. If something happen during the period he take place??Everybody know, 1997 economic crisis. No doubt, this problem has caused a lot of projects to be halted. So as, Jelutong Expressway. that is why it cannot complete in time. And now, the second phase of jelutong expressway progress is faster than in the schedule. We should be glad.

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about Penang Cybercity, it should have been acclaimed the status much earlier. actually, a few months before Penang got it's Cybercity, there was an article about the factories threatening to relocate if the Cybercity was further delayed. just glad that the status was awarded just in time. now i just hope that the facilities in the Cybercity will be properly maintained.
I think they declare it just in time. The Cyberjaya, they declare it just not too long ago. How early you wish penang to claim it? It need times to ensure that the Cyberjaya actually bring benefit, then they only have the nerve to set up other ''cybercity'' in other places. Agree with u, they should maintain the facilities in cybercity.

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now, beautification projects. it is a good thing, no doubt. however, i wonder if the government know anything about priority?? loosing investors and tourists is more important or looking beautiful is more important?? the money should have been spent on infrastructure.
Both are equally important. But, the delay of finishing a project, we shouldn't point everything wrong to the government. Is the company which incharge in a project...not the government..the government have paid them the money, just that the company can't finish the project in time..that is why, sometimes the governemnt have to black listed them.

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"city" or better call it "town" planning in Penang is very short sighted in my opinion. even JB's planning seems more far sighted and promising. JB is now expanding it's airport, and has a very extremely successful port of PTP. Penang's airport was the busiest after KL. now it has loosed out to KKIA and if nothing is done, probably Senai will overtake it in the future. Penang port is also going down hill. just look at the emerging ports of Kuantan and Bintulu. but please don't compare to PTP as it is embarrassing
short sighted??oo no, i think this is not true. JB plan is far sighted and promising, i agree with you. But penang deffinetely not short sighted. Yes, undeniable, PTP is the second best port in Malaysia. N now, penang is do something to our port. is this call short sighted? From the report which was out a few months ago, it do not show that penang port is going downhill?? Penang International Aiport, they just renovated it, now is extanding the aeroplane path, so that bigger airplane can be landed in the future. So, i guess i should say, penang is far sighted!!

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another example would be the Penang monorail. they are building 2 lines for the whole island?? JB is planning to have monorail, LRT and MRT in their Structure Plan. much smaller Kuching is also going to have monorail. if they are to stick to the original 2 lines, don't hope that the traffic problems will be solved.
I'm sure our government wont just stick for only 2 lines..for the time being we only need 2 lines.

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Yeah, but sometimes complain too much will make things worst, like PORR..
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Not many?? how many u wish to have??i think our projects has the same no. as KL and JB, forget about comparing which project is the best. Every state have their own plan, perancangan bandar. And this plan is last for few years. Dr. Lim Chong Eu plan this in the early year, that means he has foresight. It dosen't means that this project is planned by who and must be completed in the years when he is still CM. If something happen during the period he take place??Everybody know, 1997 economic crisis. No doubt, this problem has caused a lot of projects to be halted. So as, Jelutong Expressway. that is why it cannot complete in time. And now, the second phase of jelutong expressway progress is faster than in the schedule. We should be glad.


I think they declare it just in time. The Cyberjaya, they declare it just not too long ago. How early you wish penang to claim it? It need times to ensure that the Cyberjaya actually bring benefit, then they only have the nerve to set up other ''cybercity'' in other places. Agree with u, they should maintain the facilities in cybercity.


Both are equally important. But, the delay of finishing a project, we shouldn't point everything wrong to the government. Is the company which incharge in a project...not the government..the government have paid them the money, just that the company can't finish the project in time..that is why, sometimes the governemnt have to black listed them.


short sighted??oo no, i think this is not true. JB plan is far sighted and promising, i agree with you. But penang deffinetely not short sighted. Yes, undeniable, PTP is the second best port in Malaysia. N now, penang is do something to our port. is this call short sighted? From the report which was out a few months ago, it do not show that penang port is going downhill?? Penang International Aiport, they just renovated it, now is extanding the aeroplane path, so that bigger airplane can be landed in the future. So, i guess i should say, penang is far sighted!!


I'm sure our government wont just stick for only 2 lines..for the time being we only need 2 lines.


Yeah, but sometimes complain too much will make things worst, like PORR..

Good one Pablo!!!
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Old November 24th, 2005, 05:22 PM   #36
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err..concentrate?? it is more like dispersing it is a good idea in a sense that it would ease traffic jams in the city centre, like you have mentioned. yet, building new offices means this: $$$ KOMTAR is still in a state of neglect. i wonder if our beloved CM is happy with the condition of his office.... building new offices in Bayan Mutiara means more buildings to maintain. i'm so sure that they will do a great job in maintainence since KOMTAR is maintained so very well
But, i wonder if they do not built Mini Putrajaya...how r they going to move their office to? I dunno, but i guess after finish building Mini Putajaya, after they move their office into it...then only renovate KOMTAR, will make thing run smothly.
Actually i always hope they convert KOMTAR into Hotel...ahhahahaha
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i've tot of that too!! and some ofda lower floors rent out as office building!
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Speaking bout the infrastructures, Jelutong Expressway was planned long time ago but at least it's finally being carried out and the development is pretty fast since development work started. The allevated highway in Bayan Baru is one important highway recently contructed during the current CM's tenure. What bout the coastal highway and Bukit Gambir/ Yeap Chor Ee road? Isn't it carried out under this CM? However probably the other developments i've noticed were carried out by private companies and not the government. Whatever it is i can assure you that Penang is still moving forward.
I've never said that Penang is moving backward. Technically, It is moving forward because the GDP growth is positive although it is nowhere as high as the 90's. I think the GDP growth has decreased to 5% or even below and it might be lower than the national average. During the 90's Penang GDP growth was the highest in the nation reaching 20% at certain times. What i was trying to say that failure to implement important infrastructure projects will result in even slower GDP growth in the future and a recession will ensue after that when GDP growth becomes negative. I am very confident that recession is imminent in the next few years unless this CM make drastic changes which is unlikely. Why do people call the flyover at the Bayan Baru roundabout elevated highway. It is a mere flyover and people have to stop at traffic lights in front of the PESTA. Highways do not encounter traffic lights. Why did you say that the flyover is important? I think PORR is ten times more important than that
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I've never said that Penang is moving backward. Technically, It is moving forward because the GDP growth is positive although it is nowhere as high as the 90's. I think the GDP growth has decreased to 5% or even below and it might be lower than the national average. During the 90's Penang GDP growth was the highest in the nation reaching 20% at certain times. What i was trying to say that failure to implement important infrastructure projects will result in even slower GDP growth in the future and a recession will ensue after that when GDP growth becomes negative. I am very confident that recession is imminent in the next few years unless this CM make drastic changes which is unlikely. Why do people call the flyover at the Bayan Baru roundabout elevated highway. It is a mere flyover and people have to stop at traffic lights in front of the PESTA. Highways do not encounter traffic lights. Why did you say that the flyover is important? I think PORR is ten times more important than that
There's no traffic light leading up the highway la. The traffic light is under that elevated highway. That elevated highway does make a lot of difference! Do you know that it actually saves lots of travelling time for those working in Bayan Lepas Industrial Zone? The jam is extremely terrible on that stretch before the construction of the highway especially during peak hours but now all those misseries are finally over. It takes a shorter time to get to Teluk Kumbar also with the completion of that highway.
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There's no traffic light leading up the highway la. The traffic light is under that elevated highway. That elevated highway does make a lot of difference! Do you know that it actually saves lots of travelling time for those working in Bayan Lepas Industrial Zone? The jam is extremely terrible on that stretch before the construction of the highway especially during peak hours but now all those misseries are finally over. It takes a shorter time to get to Teluk Kumbar also with the completion of that highway.
DAMN I remember being stuck in a Jam when the highway was constructing. URGH! Really was heart achingly BAD!
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