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Nov · March 26th, 2006, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ignoramus

This Contract consists of Bayfront station, overrun tunnels beyond Bayfront station towards North South Line Marina Bay Station and tunnels from Bayfront station to the interface with Common Service Tunnel (CST) at Marina Boulevard.

This Contract may also include turnback track/maintenance facilities with a shell station box for an interchange station with NSL Marina Bay station.

Interesting. So the Circle line is going to be a true circle by going from Bayfront to Marina Bay then to Harbourfront, instead of to Chinatown and then Harbourfront.

Then the "extra" parts of the current circle line will be made into other lines, I'm guessing, - promenade to douby ghaut will probably be turned into the bukit timah line, while the bayfront to chinatown will be turned to the ERL?

Edit: Can someone post that diagram showing the arrows with the BTL and the ERL again?

ignoramus · March 26th, 2006, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Nov

Interesting. So the Circle line is going to be a true circle by going from Bayfront to Marina Bay then to Harbourfront, instead of to Chinatown and then Harbourfront.

Then the "extra" parts of the current circle line will be made into other lines, I'm guessing, - promenade to douby ghaut will probably be turned into the bukit timah line, while the bayfront to chinatown will be turned to the ERL?

Edit: Can someone post that diagram showing the arrows with the BTL and the ERL again?

But Dhoby Ghaut is already labelled CC1. So unless they change that code, whatever is coming from HarbourFront has to connect to CC1? Cant be bothered guessing anymore. LTA related matters are always confusing...

blizzardtweaker · March 26th, 2006, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ignoramus

But Dhoby Ghaut is already labelled CC1. So unless they change that code, whatever is coming from HarbourFront has to connect to CC1? Cant be bothered guessing anymore. LTA related matters are always confusing...

yea, just to add to the confusion, the first pix on the alstom site showsa train for the "Circle Line" while the 2nd pixs shows it for the "Marina Line"? typo?

ignoramus · March 26th, 2006, 12:28 PM

The Marina Line = 1st stage of the Circle Line.

Hence, they are the same. Its just that Alstom cant be bothered to update its info.

JediAlf · March 26th, 2006, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ignoramus

The Marina Line = 1st stage of the Circle Line.

Hence, they are the same. Its just that Alstom cant be bothered to update its info.

Ignoramus is right. Marina Line was first formed. And then more stations were added. This Marina Line (phase 1) has become part of Circle Line.

Gotta wait for the news from LTA regarding ERL and BTL...

Nov · March 26th, 2006, 03:21 PM

So, no one can post again the image with the downtown exchange and then the arrows to ERL and BTL?

Edit: Nevermind, found it:

kenmin · March 28th, 2006, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by blizzardtweaker

acctually, that might not be so far fetched, think about hongkong mtr airport express and shanghai's airport maglev. if lta built a maglev train to run overhead along ECP, it would be airport to city hall in 1 minute!

they could also use 3 or less car trains, since the trip would be so short, it would be like an iconic thing, tour groups n traveller on those trains.... wow?

Unlikely that Singapore will build maglev. Before the train could accelerate fully, it has to decelerate already.

kenmin · March 28th, 2006, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mrtfreak

In my opinion, its a redundant announcement. Its played at the station platforms even.

Its good that SMRT thinks of commuter's saftey, but also bad that they're going overboard to "copy" SBS Transit who have more of a need for the in-train announcements as the platform gap on that line is bigger than other lines.

They are just covering their backside.

kenmin · March 28th, 2006, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mrtfreak

Actually that makes sense, to have interchange stations in the downtown area where there is high density people. And the ERL supposedly shares the CCL depot, so that restricts the ERL system to be like that of the CCL I guess? And the DTE would help close the ERL circuit.

So Promenade station will be an interchange with the DTE CCL, mainline CCL and BTL.
Bayfront may possibly be an interchange with the mainline CCL and ERL then eh?

Any idea why the CCL loop isn't going to be closed at the moment?

I think ERL might interchange at Promenade as well. If not, then the terminal station of BTL might be at Bayfront.

kenmin · March 28th, 2006, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Nov

Interesting. So the Circle line is going to be a true circle by going from Bayfront to Marina Bay then to Harbourfront, instead of to Chinatown and then Harbourfront.

Then the "extra" parts of the current circle line will be made into other lines, I'm guessing, - promenade to douby ghaut will probably be turned into the bukit timah line, while the bayfront to chinatown will be turned to the ERL?

Edit: Can someone post that diagram showing the arrows with the BTL and the ERL again?

BTL won't pass through that area. Probably it will become a new line that passes through Orchard, Tanglin, Holland and beyond.

kenmin · March 28th, 2006, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ignoramus

But Dhoby Ghaut is already labelled CC1. So unless they change that code, whatever is coming from HarbourFront has to connect to CC1? Cant be bothered guessing anymore. LTA related matters are always confusing...

The numbers could be redistributed to stations along phase 6.

blizzardtweaker · March 28th, 2006, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kenmin

Unlikely that Singapore will build maglev. Before the train could accelerate fully, it has to decelerate already.

maglev is suppose to be cheaper and faster, while u r rite, we dun have to let it accelerate till 3-400+km/h i think a gd 200km will get u frm airport to IRs or CBD, (mostly straight, except when turning out of airport, n turning towards CBD/IR) in bout 1-2mins

mrtfreak · March 28th, 2006, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by blizzardtweaker

maglev is suppose to be cheaper and faster, while u r rite, we dun have to let it accelerate till 3-400+km/h i think a gd 200km will get u frm airport to IRs or CBD, (mostly straight, except when turning out of airport, n turning towards CBD/IR) in bout 1-2mins

Wouldn't a Linear Induction Motor (LIM) system be better then? It works on the basis of magnetic propulsion. The motor has no moving bits and the propulsion is induced by a magnetic strip in between the running rails. Applicable to both automated and manual systems.

I think what Kenmin is trying to say is that you'd build a maglev system if you wanted to go at 400+kmph which conventional rails cannot do without excessive wear and tear. Hence, although less expensive to build, etc, etc, it would still be a cost as it is not being used to full operating capability and hence a waste of money.

PJCCUK · March 29th, 2006, 04:18 AM

I can imagine something like that being built here when say terminal four is up and running.

Most business / tourist people now use taxi or 'pick up' services from tour companies or hotels. But in Hong Kong the vast majority use the high-speed link (admittedly, the airport is a lot further from the cbd).

Maybe we'll have an airport express, underground from the marina bay area straight to Changi, but give it at least another 15 years.

Nov · March 29th, 2006, 06:02 AM

I was digging around LTA's site and found this. Some nice pictures there too.

blizzardtweaker · March 29th, 2006, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PJCCUK

I can imagine something like that being built here when say terminal four is up and running.

Most business / tourist people now use taxi or 'pick up' services from tour companies or hotels. But in Hong Kong the vast majority use the high-speed link (admittedly, the airport is a lot further from the cbd).

Maybe we'll have an airport express, underground from the marina bay area straight to Changi, but give it at least another 15 years.

actually, hkg airport isnt all that far frm CBD, too bad there's just a gap of sea, so the trains have to go an opposite-U shape.

also, hkg's mtr system is very comprehensive and even then, still being extended (upwards to mainland and downwards to hk island). despite the cost, much of the population prefer the train coz its reliable and more importantly FAST! 8-car trains are packed at almost anytym of the day! if SG's could somehow make the mrt sys THE way to travel over other forms of transportation, passenger numbers would go up, n more 3-car lines could be built in less populated areas.

[OT]also, the whole T4/5 thing made me think about the budget terminal that they built in a couple a months: why didnt they build it at seletar n extend the runway, since carriers would most likely fly 737s/A320s only. that way it would spoil the changi image...

RafflesCity · March 29th, 2006, 03:14 PM

one thing about taking the taxi/pickup service from Changi and taking the expressway into the CBD - the ride is always a pleasure for visitors

babystan03 · March 29th, 2006, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RafflesCity

one thing about taking the taxi/pickup service from Changi and taking the expressway into the CBD - the ride is always a pleasure for visitors

Yes....the taxi stand is there once u exit the arrival hall.......

blizzardtweaker · March 29th, 2006, 03:22 PM

speaking of taxis... cabs in taiwan have all converted to new toyota corollas(not sure bout the spelling), why didnt the new taxi companies choose the new cabs over the smaller ones being used today?

PJCCUK · March 29th, 2006, 04:46 PM

It's true about the drive into the CBD. Has to be one of the most impressive entrances to a country. I remember arriving in Singapore for the first time and was totally bowled over by the ride ... all the trees, flowers and then you see the skyline. Most impressive.

But then again, that's exactly what LKY had in mind

Seletar isn't really functional anymore, hard to get to (other than taxi). And I hope one day both Paya Labar and Seletar are closed down and moved over to changi (then we can have taller buildings!).

The only way we'd see an increase in MRT use (especially to places like Changi) is if Taxi fares are increased dramatically. I like in Bukit Batok, at the Jade RIGHT next to the mrt station. Many a time when I'm flying I think "i'll save money, got plenty of time, will just use the train", but then at the last minute I think bugger it and call for a cab, and it's never more than 25sing. A taxi ride from door to airport for less than ten pounds! You'd have to triple it for me to use the train

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Nov Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 539 Likes (Received): 0	So, no one can post again the image with the downtown exchange and then the arrows to ERL and BTL? Edit: Nevermind, found it: Last edited by Nov; March 26th, 2006 at 03:49 PM.

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March 26th, 2006, 12:28 PM	#124
ignoramus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,071 Likes (Received): 1	The Marina Line = 1st stage of the Circle Line. Hence, they are the same. Its just that Alstom cant be bothered to update its info.

March 29th, 2006, 04:18 AM	#134
PJCCUK Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 192 Likes (Received): 0	I can imagine something like that being built here when say terminal four is up and running. Most business / tourist people now use taxi or 'pick up' services from tour companies or hotels. But in Hong Kong the vast majority use the high-speed link (admittedly, the airport is a lot further from the cbd). Maybe we'll have an airport express, underground from the marina bay area straight to Changi, but give it at least another 15 years.

March 29th, 2006, 06:02 AM	#135
Nov Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 539 Likes (Received): 0	I was digging around LTA's site and found this. Some nice pictures there too.

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RafflesCity By Spirit Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S I N G A P O R E Posts: 26,215 Likes (Received): 2	one thing about taking the taxi/pickup service from Changi and taking the expressway into the CBD - the ride is always a pleasure for visitors

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blizzardtweaker ****** User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bishan Posts: 499 Likes (Received): 0	speaking of taxis... cabs in taiwan have all converted to new toyota corollas(not sure bout the spelling), why didnt the new taxi companies choose the new cabs over the smaller ones being used today?

March 29th, 2006, 04:46 PM	#140
PJCCUK Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 192 Likes (Received): 0	It's true about the drive into the CBD. Has to be one of the most impressive entrances to a country. I remember arriving in Singapore for the first time and was totally bowled over by the ride ... all the trees, flowers and then you see the skyline. Most impressive. But then again, that's exactly what LKY had in mind Seletar isn't really functional anymore, hard to get to (other than taxi). And I hope one day both Paya Labar and Seletar are closed down and moved over to changi (then we can have taller buildings!). The only way we'd see an increase in MRT use (especially to places like Changi) is if Taxi fares are increased dramatically. I like in Bukit Batok, at the Jade RIGHT next to the mrt station. Many a time when I'm flying I think "i'll save money, got plenty of time, will just use the train", but then at the last minute I think bugger it and call for a cab, and it's never more than 25sing. A taxi ride from door to airport for less than ten pounds! You'd have to triple it for me to use the train