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ok, so no lead tenant and...
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Great, bay-adelaide tidbits are always intriguing to hear. Beautiful rendering.
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Great new indeed.
I don't understand this though: "The first phase of the building will be between 600,000 and 800,000 square feet and more than 30 storeys. More floors will be added depending on demand, said Sullivan." So does that mean the tower will be virtically phased with the remaining 18 storeys built at a later date? The rendering looks out of scale. Wouldn't the Ritz be somewhat taller/larger than what's pictured here? ![]() In any event, nice to see TO finally getting a decent skyscraper.
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^ the ritz is simply farther back and so appears small
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Legal Notice: Copyright Toronto Star Newspapers Limited. All rights reserved. Distribution, transmission or republication of any material from www.thestar.com is strictly prohibited without the prior written permission of Toronto Star Newspapers Limited. For information please contact us using our webmaster form. www.thestar.com online since 1996. 2- I cannot blame them for starting off with a 30 story budding and adding more floors if required. It is hard to get anchor tenants. (Remember the old "Are Be Centre": crap office building with a medium sized company as an anchor tenet- a champ paying a fraction of the rent with its name on the building, rather than a chump paying rent through the nose with a competitor's name on the building. Quite frankly, it's an 'eyes closed' decision. I have hard time seeing the benefit of being on the 18th floor in a granite 70 story tower if you can be on the 18th floor in a crap glass -clad 18 story building, and pay less rent. Reduce cost and have more prestige- why would nay medium sized compnay turn that down? And, if you cannot get a few medium sized companies as tenants, you cannot build the 40+ story tall tower. |
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Wow, looks nice, it matches the Ritz, which is what I was kinf of expecting. Has a nice big business look to it that so many other great towers have in the cbd, sleek and not over done.
But yeah, whats with the 30 stories and adding more later comment? |
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So would Simcoe Place II go south of this tower? (left hand side of the photo?)
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I think this tower is Simcoe Place II (with new name and design)
The Article states: "The last substantial tower built in downtown Toronto was BCE Place, completed 14 years ago. Cadillac's Simcoe Place on Front St. W., was finished 10 years ago." So, I suspect this new office building will be built in the parking lot beside or behind Simcoe Place. Last edited by Are Be; September 27th, 2005 at 06:18 PM. |
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This is Simcoe II. It will be located at the southwest corner of Simcoe and Wellington and just north of Simcoe I.
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It's a 30 storey tower with the potential for up to 48 if market conditions demand it.
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Even if the tower only ends up being about 30s, it could still very easily be a 500 ft. tower considering the floor heights for an office tower. The site behind Simcoe Place is in 2 parts. The Eastern part is currently an underground parking lot which I'm assuming will be the office tower. The Western part which is currently construction the sales centre would probably be the Ritz. Looks like both towers will be relatively skinny.
The only problem I see with the tower is the tiny podium, they should of scaled the tower a back bit:
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What a gorgeous tower!
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wow! this is great news i cant wait to see this thing go up!
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Greetings everyone, I'm a long-time lurker and first-time poster and a huge fan of this site.
That is a gorgeous building, and that along with Ritz will nicely aid in filling the somewhat of gap between the CN tower and the MINT cluster when viewed from the water. So, how many propsed/approved towers over 500ft does Toronto currently have (assuming this newly proposed tower will reach 500ft)? |
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Bay-Adelaide Centre - 679 ft. 45 Floors [Stale Office Proposal] Richmond-Adelaide Centre II- 595 ft. 41 floors [Stale Office Proposal] 151 Front Street West - 549 ft. 36 floors [Stale Office Proposal] Quantum II [Minto Midtown] - 525 ft. 52 floors Approved/Excavated One City Hall II, 50s Proposed The Uptown, 518 ft. 48s Approved Festival Tower, 514 ft. 42s Residences @ College Park, 52s 505 ft. U/C |
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i hadn't notice that miami passed toronto for most 500ft towers
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I like the 'peeling facade' look which matches that of the Ritz, but my concern is the one storey podium. It should be roughly the height of the podium of the Ritz.
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