Salford Quays Projects - Page 3

SleepyOne · December 5th, 2005, 10:01 PM

Wow look how the area has changed in just two short years. In that time 3 NV buildings, Digital Wolrd Centre and Sovereign Point have all been completed. I hope that now the Quays has built some critical mass and has become an established - and profitable - location, that Salford Council really start to crank up design standards.

Sovereign Point is unforgivable but NV Buildings are pretty distinctive all be it flawed. There is no excuse for fencing off such a massive plot of land for surface car parking. The three buildings sit side by side in not-so-splendid, windswept isolation. I have no doubt the apartments are of decent quality but what about the public realm? What do the residents do if they want a bottle of milk? Okay we will soon see Salford Quays' first mini supermarket open a good walk away and the Citylofts tower has gound floor units but I can't imagine the walk there, along the dockside will be an uplifting experience. So whilst they are attractive buildings I would say their downfalls are the poor (non existant) public realm and their one-sided nature (as CAW points out, the rear facade is disappointingly austere) - all brought about by a profiteering client (Countryside Properties) a less then top drawer architect (Broadway Malyan) and a slack planning authority (Salford Council).

Elektrobank · December 5th, 2005, 10:48 PM

its incredible to think that in such a short timescale salford quays has transformed itself from a wasteland to this dynamic skyline of towers apartments and cultural buildings. my only gripe is the metrolink that winds through it takes forever just to reach salford quays itself. i could walk quicker than the tram takes to go through here lol.

Craig · December 6th, 2005, 02:25 PM

Yes not exactly a picky bunch at Salford CC Planning are they? Agree entirely with the 'just don't look around the back' aspect of the NV buildings. Broadway Malyan are OK but I'm not a fan of Countryside - just look at their efforts by Sportcity, particularly the first phase with the dreadful stuck on balconies.

inquisitor57 · December 6th, 2005, 05:48 PM

I really should get myself over to Salford to get a look firsthand at it. Its a shame about the back of those NV towers though, maybe in 10 or 20 years time they'll be due for a reclad

Farsight · December 6th, 2005, 06:21 PM

I agree with SleepyOne about the tarmac and car park at their base letting them down. I think that's more of a problem than the backs of the buiildings.

Chogmook · December 6th, 2005, 07:30 PM

There's a shop under sovereign point y'know!

Legin · December 11th, 2005, 01:09 PM

Work has finally started on Peel's Erie Basin

andysimo123 · December 11th, 2005, 02:06 PM

Good news and good pic.

***eddyk*** · December 11th, 2005, 02:07 PM

I like erie basin....nice to see it start, even in the middle of winter.

caw123 · December 11th, 2005, 02:13 PM

Ta for the pic Legin. I stated the same a week ago - did nobody read it?

It'll be the 5th tower along Dock 9, and the 7th new residential at the Quays. Could be the worst of the lot too.

andysimo123 · December 11th, 2005, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caw123

Ta for the pic Legin. I stated the same a week ago - did nobody read it?

It'll be the 5th tower along Dock 9, and the 7th new residential at the Quays. Could be the worst of the lot too.

Worst? I think it will be one of the best.

caw123 · December 11th, 2005, 02:45 PM

No chance, that cladding looks very dodgy. And that huge podium is crap also. I like the lowrise block though.

Accura4Matalan · December 11th, 2005, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caw123

Ta for the pic Legin. I stated the same a week ago - did nobody read it?

It'll be the 5th tower along Dock 9, and the 7th new residential at the Quays. Could be the worst of the lot too.

I don't think it could be any worse than Sovereign Point.

andysimo123 · December 11th, 2005, 02:48 PM

We havent even seen the real cladding yet give it a chance.

Jerv · December 11th, 2005, 03:36 PM

I think this will be the best one.

Farsight · December 12th, 2005, 02:51 PM

I'm not keen. It reminds me of block of council flats from the sixties. Shame they can't give it some edge, like a sloping roof to match the lowrise.

***eddyk*** · December 13th, 2005, 03:33 AM

I think the roof on Erie Basin is sloped.

Farsight · December 13th, 2005, 02:52 PM

I didn't think the big one was slopey, eddy. Just the little one.

http://www.broadwaymalyan.com/projec...manchester.cfm

majormystery · December 13th, 2005, 03:32 PM

Looks slopey in the render to me too.
Otherwise the perspective is way off.

***eddyk*** · December 13th, 2005, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Farsight

I didn't think the big one was slopey, eddy. Just the little one.

http://www.broadwaymalyan.com/proje...-manchester.cfm

Those pics still havnt changed my mind.

I was going to draw it for SSP, but neither me or Jonny_5 could figure out if it was sloped or not.

Because you lot are saying it should of been, but in the renders it looks like it is, unless they have their perspectives wrong.

December 5th, 2005, 10:01 PM	#41
SleepyOne Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,091 Likes (Received): 0	Wow look how the area has changed in just two short years. In that time 3 NV buildings, Digital Wolrd Centre and Sovereign Point have all been completed. I hope that now the Quays has built some critical mass and has become an established - and profitable - location, that Salford Council really start to crank up design standards. Sovereign Point is unforgivable but NV Buildings are pretty distinctive all be it flawed. There is no excuse for fencing off such a massive plot of land for surface car parking. The three buildings sit side by side in not-so-splendid, windswept isolation. I have no doubt the apartments are of decent quality but what about the public realm? What do the residents do if they want a bottle of milk? Okay we will soon see Salford Quays' first mini supermarket open a good walk away and the Citylofts tower has gound floor units but I can't imagine the walk there, along the dockside will be an uplifting experience. So whilst they are attractive buildings I would say their downfalls are the poor (non existant) public realm and their one-sided nature (as CAW points out, the rear facade is disappointingly austere) - all brought about by a profiteering client (Countryside Properties) a less then top drawer architect (Broadway Malyan) and a slack planning authority (Salford Council). Last edited by SleepyOne; December 5th, 2005 at 10:07 PM.

December 6th, 2005, 05:48 PM	#44
inquisitor57 No more heroes anymore Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Leicester/Manchester Posts: 416 Likes (Received): 0	Not too long I really should get myself over to Salford to get a look firsthand at it. Its a shame about the back of those NV towers though, maybe in 10 or 20 years time they'll be due for a reclad

December 6th, 2005, 07:30 PM	#46
Chogmook Mancunian Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Stalybridge, Manchester Posts: 6,155 Likes (Received): 13	There's a shop under sovereign point y'know! __________________ Britain is Great, Manchester is Greater!

December 11th, 2005, 02:07 PM	#49
*eddyk* is watching you Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: HMP Whatton Posts: 16,070 Likes (Received): 274	I like erie basin....nice to see it start, even in the middle of winter. __________________ . . Visit Grantham Linconshire Get lost in the world of eddyk on Twitter @eddyk2, Instagram @eddyk222 and AdultWork.com @eddyk69

December 11th, 2005, 02:13 PM	#50
caw123 Hit the north! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 4,697 Likes (Received): 0	Ta for the pic Legin. I stated the same a week ago - did nobody read it? It'll be the 5th tower along Dock 9, and the 7th new residential at the Quays. Could be the worst of the lot too. __________________ Bespoke Upper Torso Coverage Solutions *"Manchester is located in the center of Lancashire plain in northwestern England like a big circle theatre."*

December 5th, 2005, 10:48 PM	#42
Elektrobank Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 87 Likes (Received): 0	its incredible to think that in such a short timescale salford quays has transformed itself from a wasteland to this dynamic skyline of towers apartments and cultural buildings. my only gripe is the metrolink that winds through it takes forever just to reach salford quays itself. i could walk quicker than the tram takes to go through here lol.

December 6th, 2005, 02:25 PM	#43
Craig Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manchester Posts: 168 Likes (Received): 0	Yes not exactly a picky bunch at Salford CC Planning are they? Agree entirely with the 'just don't look around the back' aspect of the NV buildings. Broadway Malyan are OK but I'm not a fan of Countryside - just look at their efforts by Sportcity, particularly the first phase with the dreadful stuck on balconies.

December 6th, 2005, 06:21 PM	#45
Farsight Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,995 Likes (Received): 24	I agree with SleepyOne about the tarmac and car park at their base letting them down. I think that's more of a problem than the backs of the buiildings.

December 11th, 2005, 01:09 PM	#47
Legin Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Manchester Posts: 314 Likes (Received): 0	Work has finally started on Peel's Erie Basin

December 11th, 2005, 02:06 PM	#48
andysimo123 wind-up merchant Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,877 Likes (Received): 8	Good news and good pic.

December 11th, 2005, 02:45 PM	#52
caw123 Hit the north! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 4,697 Likes (Received): 0	No chance, that cladding looks very dodgy. And that huge podium is crap also. I like the lowrise block though. __________________ Bespoke Upper Torso Coverage Solutions *"Manchester is located in the center of Lancashire plain in northwestern England like a big circle theatre."*

December 11th, 2005, 02:48 PM	#54
andysimo123 wind-up merchant Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,877 Likes (Received): 8	We havent even seen the real cladding yet give it a chance.

December 11th, 2005, 03:36 PM	#55
Jerv Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,057 Likes (Received): 0	I think this will be the best one.

December 12th, 2005, 02:51 PM	#56
Farsight Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,995 Likes (Received): 24	I'm not keen. It reminds me of block of council flats from the sixties. Shame they can't give it some edge, like a sloping roof to match the lowrise.

December 13th, 2005, 03:33 AM	#57
*eddyk* is watching you Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: HMP Whatton Posts: 16,070 Likes (Received): 274	I think the roof on Erie Basin is sloped. __________________ . . Visit Grantham Linconshire Get lost in the world of eddyk on Twitter @eddyk2, Instagram @eddyk222 and AdultWork.com @eddyk69

December 13th, 2005, 02:52 PM	#58
Farsight Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,995 Likes (Received): 24	I didn't think the big one was slopey, eddy. Just the little one. http://www.broadwaymalyan.com/projec...manchester.cfm

December 13th, 2005, 03:32 PM	#59
majormystery All hail to the ale. Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 929 Likes (Received): 0	Looks slopey in the render to me too. Otherwise the perspective is way off.

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