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Old March 4th, 2006, 01:13 AM   #61
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Curitiba seems to be the model. Ottawa, LA, Oakland, Cleveland, & other US cities seem to be following. Bogota, Quito, & Mexico City in Latin America. China is planning lots of BRT.
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Old March 26th, 2006, 03:02 PM   #62
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Wheelchair Accessible Buses

Wheelchair Accessible Buses
How much of your city's bus fleet is wheelchair accessible at present? What about the future?

Manual or automatic ramps? Why?

Ramps at the front or centre of the bus? Why?

What are the variety of designs of wheelchair accessible buses running on your roads? Post photos.

If your city has yet to have wheelchair accessible buses, why?
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Old March 26th, 2006, 05:15 PM   #63
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All of them in compliance with the DDA (Disability Discrimintaion Act)

Hundreds of millions spent on hundreds of low-floor buses and I'm yet to see a single person in a wheelchair use them.
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Old March 26th, 2006, 05:29 PM   #64
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Yeah rofl, most of Sydney's buses are now wheelchair access.. i've only ever seen 1.
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Old March 26th, 2006, 06:25 PM   #65
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All of them in compliance with the DDA (Disability Discrimintaion Act)

Hundreds of millions spent on hundreds of low-floor buses and I'm yet to see a single person in a wheelchair use them.
I've seen them used on about 6 different occasions although one of the buses didn't go down low enough and in the end the driver gave up.
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Old March 26th, 2006, 06:41 PM   #66
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All of Boston's buses has been wheelchair accessible since around 1989 and the new buses they are using now is a lot more conventional since the floor is more closer to the ground. A single ramp is extended from the bus to the streets.
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Old March 26th, 2006, 06:55 PM   #67
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Operator - # of low-floor buses
KMB - 1,698 running on 200 routes
Citybus - 122 running on 26 routes *
NWFB - 530 running on 80 routes
NLB - 17 running on 3 routes
Long Win - 136 running on 15 routes

* Many of the buses of Citybus were purchased before 1997, when low floor buses were not yet available in the market.

In 2001, all franchised bus companies except NLB agreed to choose wheelchair accessible models when making future purchase for new buses. The number of new buses required by different bus companies varies depending on the age of their existing fleet and changes in service demand.

According to the current Route Development Programmes of the bus operators, a total of 885 wheelchair accessible buses will be purchased in the coming five years.

More information : http://www.info.gov.hk/gia/general/2...0512210184.htm
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Old March 26th, 2006, 07:26 PM   #68
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I've seen a couple of wheelchair users on buses. But the main advantage of the low floor buses is that people with push chairs and the elderly can get on the bus quicker.
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Old March 27th, 2006, 02:59 AM   #69
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All of the buses in the Minneapolis-St. Paul Area are ADA (Americans with Disabilties Act) compliant. They are mostly High Floor models, with lift ramps at the front, but Low Floor buses are being introduced as well. They don't get used a ton, but they certainly are used. There is also paratransit serivce, of course, but you have to call ahead to arrange that, so i am sure some people prefer the bus.
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Old March 27th, 2006, 03:29 AM   #70
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All of the 30ft, 40ft, and 60ft. buses in Philadelphia are wheelchair accessible. They have automatic ramps at the front doors.
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Old March 27th, 2006, 03:39 AM   #71
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All of them in compliance with the DDA (Disability Discrimintaion Act)

Hundreds of millions spent on hundreds of low-floor buses and I'm yet to see a single person in a wheelchair use them.
when I rode buses frequently over the summer, I had this one person in a wheelchair use them a lot. The difference in time it took the old buses( with the slow lift) to the new low floor ones(with the flipping ramp) is significant. Still not sure if it justifies getting new ones though as wheelchair users are infrequent to say the least
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Old March 27th, 2006, 09:17 AM   #72
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They could just have a hook at the back of the bus and the wheelchair users could attach a bit of rope
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Old March 27th, 2006, 09:54 AM   #73
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In Greater Vancouver:
I believe all buses except older GMC's (mostly used in suburbs on morning runs) and trolley buses do not have them (but new trolleys will). All the others (including high floor models) have them.
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Old March 27th, 2006, 07:31 PM   #74
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In Castellar del Vallès urban bus, in line C4 the minibus have a mecanism who elevates the wheelchair from the floor to the bus. Also in line Sabadell-St.Llorenç Savall. In line C6, doesn't have any mecanism for this (line don't practicable to wheelchair users).

In Sabadell urban bus have ramps in the central door, like than Barcelona's urban buses.

In interurbans lines in Catalonia: depend of the line. In suburban lines, the buses have low floor and ramps in the central door; for more long distance the bus are high floor and a mecanism to elevate the wheelchair. Anyway, this buses in Catalonia in interurban services are very news, but have very few buses; many buses are old and don't adapted to wheelchair's users.

(Wiew of an interurban low floor buses; used normally in lines Caldes de Montbui-Barcelona, Sentmenat-Barcelona...)

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Old March 28th, 2006, 02:24 AM   #75
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Nowadays in Barcelona city: 70% of buses are accessible for disabled people.

100% before 2007!!
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Old March 28th, 2006, 05:32 PM   #76
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In Barcelona's city and metropolitan area: before 1st January 2007. Also, by law, in all catalan urban network buses.

In the rest of buses: 1st january 2017
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Old April 30th, 2006, 11:51 AM   #77
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Collection of movies from buses

Let's collect small movies of buses.

Here is an example, a movie I made in Budapest about 2 years ago

http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Ebrugghen/Mov...st_trolley.wmv

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Old April 30th, 2006, 09:29 PM   #78
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Let's collect small movies of buses.

Here is an example, a movie I made in Budapest about 2 years ago

http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Ebrugghen/Mov...st_trolley.wmv

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How are the Ikarus artics doing in Budapest?

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Old April 30th, 2006, 11:38 PM   #79
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Great movie on Budapest Trolleybuses!

Hungarian buses & trolleybuses are widely utilized worldwide.

San Francisco tested out an Ikarus 280 articulated motorbus demonstrator in late 1970s. But eventually purchased German-designed MAN artics. But quite a few US cities ordered Ikarus artics in 1980s. San Mateo in suburban Bay Area had some. Portland had one of the largest fleets of Ikaruses in US. As in Ottawa, they didn’t work out well in US cities & were scrapped early. But the latest model Ikarus buses, rigid & articulated seem to be doing well in the US. Think Washington DC has some.

San Francisco also experimented with an Ikarus 280T articulated trolleybus in early 1980s as a demonstrator. Operated in SF for several months & ran on many routes. Was well received. But never placed an order. All SF trolleybuses are Flyer/New Flyer or Skoda-ETI, both types having rigid & articulated models.
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Old May 14th, 2006, 03:44 PM   #80
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What does your cities buses look like

What do your city bues look like?

http://www.transalt.org/press/magazi...s/19MTABus.jpg http://www.transitpicsgallery.com/ga...MTABUS_134.jpg
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