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Old April 11th, 2017, 07:00 PM   #2001
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Paris airports March 2017

CDG Mar 17 5,301,769 +3.2% Jan 17-Mar 17 14,900,436 +4.3%
ORY Mar 17 2,536,176 +4.9% Jan 17-Mar 17 7,082,551 +6.6%

http://www.parisaeroport.fr/docs/def...7.pdf?sfvrsn=2
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Old April 12th, 2017, 02:58 PM   #2002
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Spanish statistics for AENA airports (most of spanish airports and all of the important ones):

http://www.aena.es/csee/ccurl/411/10...Marzo_2017.pdf

In 2016, the holidays of the Holy Week happened in March, while in this 2017 we have them on April. For this reason, the more touristics airports have softer increases or they even loose passengers, however, they will surely show big increases in April due to this holidays week.

MAD: +5,2%
BCN: +5,0%
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Old April 12th, 2017, 06:51 PM   #2003
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Almost all busiest airports in Europe has released their statistics for March, so here is little analysis

The first graph shows actual monthly statistics of carried passengers.



In the second graph you can see the race for the 3rd busiest airport in Europe. The dotted line is forecast that is estimated based on % growth of first 3 months of 2017. This year we might already see AMS taking over CDG.



In the last picture are shown 12-month rolling figures for top 10 busiest airports in Europe

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Old April 13th, 2017, 08:35 AM   #2004
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LAX came out with their statistics for February! I was interested as this was during the Trump "travel ban" fiasco (L.A. has a pretty sizable Iranian population, a country on the ban list) and also the full start of the Trump effect:

http://www.lawa.org/uploadedfiles/LA.../tcom-0217.pdf

So for Feb 2017 LAX: 5,604,244 an increase of 2.51%. And again International travel lead the way! Domestic travel was basically flat (an increase of 0.98%) while International travel increased 6.54%.
For the first two months of the year LAX handled 12,048,831 passengers, an increase of 4.45%. So not a TON of evidence that the new administration is severely hampering travel into the U.S., at least from the West Coast. But probably too early to tell, we'll have to see, plenty of more months to track in the year
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Old April 14th, 2017, 12:23 AM   #2005
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This year we might already see AMS taking over CDG.
There is a problem though. AMS is already close to max capacity and the Dutch Safety Board has stated that further rapid growth of AMS is not possible because of runway capacity and safety.
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Old April 14th, 2017, 01:31 PM   #2006
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I think AMS will sneak past CDG but absent another series of Parisian atrocities then CDG will sneak back ahead again a year or two later.

In other news, DUB has slowed right down to 5% growth Q1 17 vs Q1 16. Brexit has led to static UK traffic.
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Old April 14th, 2017, 05:09 PM   #2007
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In the second graph you can see the race for the 3rd busiest airport in Europe. The dotted line is forecast that is estimated based on % growth of first 3 months of 2017. This year we might already see AMS taking over CDG.

And what about MAD taking over IST? It may happen...
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Old April 14th, 2017, 09:53 PM   #2008
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And what about MAD taking over IST? It may happen...
Nope. Istanbul has two airports and 10m pax will move over to new IST from the smaller one when the new mega IST opens within 3 years.

Come back to us on that one in a year.
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There is a problem though. AMS is already close to max capacity and the Dutch Safety Board has stated that further rapid growth of AMS is not possible because of runway capacity and safety.
That is relevant fot the limit of aircraft movements while the ranking is about passengers. When looking at the passengers per plane it's clear it's not a problem for AMS to grow bigger than CDG at all. Average # of passengers per plane: CDG: ~140, AMS ~130. If the planes at AMS carried as much passengers as at CDG it would have already passed it.
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Old April 17th, 2017, 11:28 PM   #2010
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That is relevant fot the limit of aircraft movements while the ranking is about passengers. When looking at the passengers per plane it's clear it's not a problem for AMS to grow bigger than CDG at all. Average # of passengers per plane: CDG: ~140, AMS ~130. If the planes at AMS carried as much passengers as at CDG it would have already passed it.
CDG is growing slower because ORLY second paris airport is growing faster
the last years the passengers traffic at ORLY airport went from 23 to 32 million passengers per year
that's the reason why CDG grows slower ! and in the next years ORLY airport will reach 40 millions passengers per year after the inauguration of a new big terminal !(planned for 2018)
paris airports= CDG +ORLY+ Beauvais tillé = 102,22 million passengers per year (66,5+31,7+4)
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Old April 18th, 2017, 02:46 PM   #2011
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CDG is growing slower because ORLY second paris airport is growing faster
the last years the passengers traffic at ORLY airport went from 23 to 32 million passengers per year
that's the reason why CDG grows slower ! and in the next years ORLY airport will reach 40 millions passengers per year after the inauguration of a new big terminal !(planned for 2018)
paris airports= CDG +ORLY+ Beauvais tillé = 102,22 million passengers per year (66,5+31,7+4)
On 2015. ORY had almost 30m passangers,not 23m.
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Old April 18th, 2017, 05:28 PM   #2012
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Nope. Istanbul has two airports and 10m pax will move over to new IST from the smaller one when the new mega IST opens within 3 years.

Come back to us on that one in a year.


I'm not so sure about IST. Since the dictator of Turkey is very unpredictable and may become more hardline, while safety and freedom in the country decreases, people think twice before taking a holiday or transfer in that country, and the trend still continues, while Spain is seen as a stable alternative.
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Old April 18th, 2017, 07:08 PM   #2013
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On 2015. ORY had almost 30m passangers,not 23m.
yes you read what i wrote ?
ORLY had 23m passengers (10 years ago) but has now 31,7m.
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Old April 18th, 2017, 08:50 PM   #2014
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yes you read what i wrote ?
ORLY had 23m passengers (10 years ago) but has now 31,7m.
So ORL went from 30m to 31.1m while CDG went from 65.8 m to 66.5m? By extension, ORL + CDG went from 95.8m to 97.6 m. These numbers wouldn't suggest that CDG is growing slowly because ORL is growing quickly.

The 10 year growth shows ORL + CDG growing from 78.7 m to 97.6 m. ORL did post a slightly faster growth rate but not by much.
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Old May 7th, 2017, 04:29 PM   #2015
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hi guys,
it has been weeks since last update, but some airport still has not released their statistics (this time CLT and MNL, for CKG its always prediction since there is no reliable source for information)

February did not bring us any new monthly records, perhaps because its the shortest month). Despite having one day less than in February last year some airports did very well, pointing specifically on ICN, DEL, KUL, DXB and DOH. Chinese airports experienced high growth due to the timing of Chinese New Year holiday period.

On the other hand most of american airports showed negative or relatively flat growth thanks to slowing domestic demand.

I am little bit surprised about HKG, because in 5 out of 8 last months airport showed negative growth, and by this is letting PVG to catch up and possibly surpass HKG by end of the year.

Also my interest goes to PEK which is speeding toward 100 million passengers mark, however as written in the annual report, this relatively rapid growth (7% on average in the last 8 months) should be downsizing in the coming months due to capacity constrains. Well, lets see about that, as of feb-17 PEK is missing "only" 4 487 000 additional passengers to be the second airport in the history to surpass 100 million passengers.

Finally CKG is increasing growth compare to very flat year 2016, in my estimation I will be little more courageous than last year. Hopefully by end of this year CKG would join 60 million passengers club.

Very soon I expect MNL and NRT to have more than 40 million passengers which would mean that 48 airports out of top 50 would be handling 40+ million passengers.

Also I have added new columns in the table, stating comparison rank between current period and the same period last year (feb-17 to feb-16, jan-feb-17 to jan-feb-16, mar-16/feb-17 to mar-15/feb-16). Hope that is clear.

Hopefully for march data we would not have to wait until June time.
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Old May 7th, 2017, 10:43 PM   #2016
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Thanks as always for sharing bubbalo

With regards to March, LAX ("my account" ) reported their March figures!

http://www.lawa.org/LAXStatistics.aspx

LAX reported for March 2017: 6,779,400 passengers, a YOY("year over year) increase of 4.68%. Domestic passenger totals rose 3.58% YOY to 4,907,598 and international passenger totals rose 7.67% to 1,871,802. 2017 as of now is tracking to have 4.53% increase over 2016 and if that holds LAX will finish 2017 with a total of 84,587,272.

In trying to discern a "Trump effect", I've looked at February and March versus January. In January, pre-Trump and his whole travel ban fiasco, international travel rose 12.55% YOY. In February that dropped to an increase of 6.54% and March had an increase of 7.67%. So as you can see growth in international passengers has been much less since Trump took office, almost half as much growth as before. So while this is a crude way to look at these statistics, it seems to me like there has been a measurable effect of foreign travel into LA that has hampered growth. But again, could be lots of reasons, will keep looking at the data myself
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Old May 7th, 2017, 11:51 PM   #2017
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4 of the 10 busiest airports are in China and Kunming joins the top 25. Amazing how the big picture is changing.
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Old May 8th, 2017, 12:29 AM   #2018
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I am happy you still follow my charts, guys

just looked at the dom/int stats for 26 busiest intl US airports, I have collected data until February (CLT is estimated) and here is the pics



Taking aside that one extra day in Feb 16 the intl segment would have risen by 5%, so it seems so far the influence is not that big. But I guess we will see in coming months.

I have no doubt Chinese airports will dominate the chart in couple of years, given the size of the country and amazing speed of building the infrastructure.

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Old May 8th, 2017, 11:14 PM   #2019
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LGW is very close to 50 MLN, how they are doing it with just one runway
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4 of the 10 busiest airports are in China and Kunming joins the top 25. Amazing how the big picture is changing.
1º US
China
3º EAU
4º US
5º Japan
6º US
7º UK
China
China
10º France

I count three. Haneda is in Japan
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