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Old January 18th, 2006, 03:18 AM   #221
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Some Spanish airports in 2005:

In million passengers:

1. MADRID Barajas 41,9 (+ 8,4%)
2. BARCELONA El Prat 27,1 (+10,5%)
3. MALLORCA Son Sant Joan 21,2 (+ 4,0%)
4. MÁLAGA 12,6 (+ 5,2%)
5. GRAN CANARIA 9,8 (+ 3,8%)
6. ALiCANTE El Altet 8,7 (+ 2,6%)
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Old January 18th, 2006, 08:16 AM   #222
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Not dodgey??? So they didnt hand their stats in on time, well surely they could have used Melbournes stats from the year before if nothing else.
Omitting them from the list altogether is providing misinformation in its own right. Thats pretty dodgey if you ask me.
The list is for 100 busiest Airports Jan-Sep 2005.

And you're suggesting they add Melbourne's 2004 data instead. Now that would be adding false data to the list. If that is less dodgy than ommiting a dataset because the figures didn't come in...
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Old January 18th, 2006, 08:44 AM   #223
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Manila's figures are disappointing, too. But it's good to know we beat Osaka. BTW, is it Osaka's Kansai or is it some other airport?
Yes, it is Kansai international airport as you can see KIX code,is Kansai's code.
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Old January 18th, 2006, 08:45 AM   #224
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The figure of Bangkok is quite disappointing but at least Bangkok beats Singapore.
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Old January 18th, 2006, 08:48 AM   #225
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We have to wait for a full year data, I am sure it would be more interesting.
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Old January 18th, 2006, 09:34 AM   #226
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Not dodgey??? So they didnt hand their stats in on time, well surely they could have used Melbournes stats from the year before if nothing else.
Omitting them from the list altogether is providing misinformation in its own right. Thats pretty dodgey if you ask me.
I agree with Justme, it would be far more dodgey to add 2004 stats. MEL would be somewhere in the bottom half of the list.
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Old January 19th, 2006, 05:25 AM   #227
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2005 China top 20 Airports: 2005 Passengers

top 20 Airports

Total passengers in 2005:(Million)


1.BEIJING (PEK):41.00 +17.5%

2.HONGKONG(HKG):40.74 +9.9%

3.SHANGHAI PUDONG(PVG):23.575

4.GUANGZHOU(CAN):23.391 +15.17%

5.SHANGHAI HONGQIAO(SHA):17.82

6.SHENZHEN(SZX):(about)15.50

7.CHENGDU(CTU):13.89

8.KUNMIN(KMG):11.82 +18.5%

----------------------------------above 10 million

9.HANGZHOU(HGH):7.623 +20.3%

10.XI'AN(XIY):(about)7.50

11.HAIKOU(HAK):7.02

12.XIAMEN(XMN):6.29 +12.72%

13.CHONGQING(CKG):6.05

14.QINGDAO(TAO):5.55 +15.43%

15.DALIAN(DLC):5.41 +17.2%

16.NANJING(NKG):5.10 +11.6%

17.WUHAN(WUH):5.00

18.CHANGSHA(CSX):4.56

19.SHENYANG(SHE):4.55

20.FUZHOU(FOC):(about)3.40
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Old January 19th, 2006, 05:39 AM   #228
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That's amazing Beijing squeezing 40 million in and out of those two little terminals.
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Old January 19th, 2006, 12:11 PM   #229
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Old January 19th, 2006, 12:57 PM   #230
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Year to date Passenger Traffic

January - October 2005



Last update: January 18 2006

Passenger Traffic

total passengers enplaned and deplaned, passengers in transit counted once.

Airport Total %Chg

1 ATLANTA, GA (ATL) 72 348 053 3.8

2 CHICAGO, IL (ORD) 64 482 013 1.4

3 LONDON, GB (LHR) 57 334 679 0.8

4 TOKYO, JP (HND) 52 737 261 1.7

5 LOS ANGELES, CA (LAX) 51 697 131 1.7

6 DALLAS/FT WORTH AIRPORT, TX (DFW) 49 258 987 (1.0)

7 PARIS, FR (CDG) 45 591 571 4.4

8 FRANKFURT, DE (FRA) 44 597 185 2.2

9 AMSTERDAM, NL (AMS) 37 866 168 3.8

10 LAS VEGAS, NV (LAS) 37 139 911 6.9

11 DENVER, CO (DEN) 36 398 365 1.9

12 MADRID, ES (MAD) 35 425 745 8.3

13 PHOENIX, AZ (PHX) 34 366 414 4.4

14 NEW YORK, NY (JFK) 34 098 236 8.8

15 BEIJING, CN (PEK) 33 986 432 16.5

16 HONG KONG, CN (HKG) 33 423 000 10.4

17 HOUSTON, TX (IAH) 32 969 000 8.9

18 MINNEAPOLIS/ST PAUL, MN (MSP) 32 520 659 5.0

19 BANGKOK, TH (BKK) 31 862 865 3.2

20 DETROIT, MI (DTW) 30 774 422 4.6

21 LONDON, GB (LGW) 28 607 029 4.5

22 SAN FRANCISCO, CA (SFO) 28 286 847 2.6

23 ORLANDO, FL (MCO) 28 225 860 8.9

24 NEWARK, NJ (EWR) 27 437 515 2.9

25 PHILADELPHIA, PA (PHL) 26 700 179 13.8

26 SINGAPORE, SG (SIN) 26 526 623 7.5

27 TOKYO, JP (NRT) 26 377 898 1.8

28 MIAMI, FL (MIA) 25 628 282 2.3

29 TORONTO, ON, CA (YYZ) 25 466 357 5.4

30 SEATTLE/TACOMA, WA (SEA) 24 687 787 1.8
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Old January 19th, 2006, 01:11 PM   #231
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Can Kunming airport be in the top 100 in 2005

top 20 Airports

Total passengers in 2005:(Million)


1.BEIJING (PEK):41.00 +17.5%

2.HONGKONG(HKG):40.74 +9.9%

3.SHANGHAI PUDONG(PVG):23.575

4.GUANGZHOU(CAN):23.391 +15.17%

5.SHANGHAI HONGQIAO(SHA):17.82

6.SHENZHEN(SZX):(about)15.50

7.CHENGDU(CTU):13.89

8.KUNMIN(KMG):11.82 +18.5%

----------------------------------above 10 million

9.HANGZHOU(HGH):7.623 +20.3%

10.XI'AN(XIY):(about)7.50

11.HAIKOU(HAK):7.02

12.XIAMEN(XMN):6.29 +12.72%

13.CHONGQING(CKG):6.05

14.QINGDAO(TAO):5.55 +15.43%

15.DALIAN(DLC):5.41 +17.2%

16.NANJING(NKG):5.10 +11.6%

17.WUHAN(WUH):5.00

18.CHANGSHA(CSX):4.56

19.SHENYANG(SHE):4.55

20.FUZHOU(FOC):(about)3.40
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Old January 19th, 2006, 04:32 PM   #232
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Munich is #32 with more than 21 million passengers!pretty nice!
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Old January 19th, 2006, 10:02 PM   #233
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Last year Hong Kong was bigger than Beijing and also bigger than Shanghai's two airports combined. This year Beijing has overtaken Hong Kong as have the two Shanghai airports combined. This is because Hong Kong airlines, especially Cathay Pacific, are so heavily restricted in their services inside China.
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Old January 20th, 2006, 12:11 AM   #234
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Wow... I would've thought Hong Kong would be number 1 but I guess not. Its awesome that the mainland airports are getting so busy. Its also good that they're only getting busier because of the Olympics, tourism, and business. Do all the cities on the list have international terminals?
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Old January 20th, 2006, 03:40 AM   #235
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Wow... I would've thought Hong Kong would be number 1 but I guess not. Its awesome that the mainland airports are getting so busy. Its also good that they're only getting busier because of the Olympics, tourism, and business. Do all the cities on the list have international terminals?
of course they are,China has 40 more international terminals.
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Old January 20th, 2006, 04:27 AM   #236
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Last year Hong Kong was bigger than Beijing and also bigger than Shanghai's two airports combined. This year Beijing has overtaken Hong Kong as have the two Shanghai airports combined. This is because Hong Kong airlines, especially Cathay Pacific, are so heavily restricted in their services inside China.
To the contrary, there are now more routes to China from Hong Kong than ever before. Hong Kong Express and CR Airways launched a number of new routes to China in 2005, and a number of mainland airlines serve Hong Kong. Cathay won the right to fly to Beijing and Xiamen, and passenger flights to Shanghai should begin this year. There is a lot of new capacity.
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Old January 20th, 2006, 07:34 PM   #237
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Wow... I would've thought Hong Kong would be number 1 but I guess not. Its awesome that the mainland airports are getting so busy. Its also good that they're only getting busier because of the Olympics, tourism, and business. Do all the cities on the list have international terminals?

without international terminals, how plants from all over the world come to china district ?
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To the contrary, there are now more routes to China from Hong Kong than ever before. Hong Kong Express and CR Airways launched a number of new routes to China in 2005, and a number of mainland airlines serve Hong Kong. Cathay won the right to fly to Beijing and Xiamen, and passenger flights to Shanghai should begin this year. There is a lot of new capacity.
Yes but Hong Kong is treated as an outsider by the Chinese authorities. Of course capacity is expanding (where is it declining?) but there is still far less than a free aviation market would generate. Do you really think that Cathay would fly to just two destinations in Mainland China if they had a choice in the matter? If it wasn't for the restrictions they would fly hundreds of services to China every week.
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Nearly every country in the world has restrictions on air traffic. There is no such thing as a free aviation market anywhere in the world. Hong Kong negotiate sits bilateral air agreements with other countries, including China. Other countries had to negotiate with China before a route opens. Even among countries that have bilateral agreements, airlines might still be restricted by a lack of landing slots.
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To the contrary, there are now more routes to China from Hong Kong than ever before. Hong Kong Express and CR Airways launched a number of new routes to China in 2005, and a number of mainland airlines serve Hong Kong. Cathay won the right to fly to Beijing and Xiamen, and passenger flights to Shanghai should begin this year. There is a lot of new capacity.
I flew on Dragonair from HK to Changsha a couple years back. They operated just a single flight per week to that destination. So my question is, is that Dragonair's choice to fly just once a week, or are they restricted to a certain amount of flights once they're rewarded by Beijing for the destination?
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