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Old December 27th, 2007, 01:33 PM   #781
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Aviation enthusiasts, is it really important for AIRPORT A to surpass AIRPORT B because of THIS and THAT? I don't get the logic why there's some sort of competition on passenger numbers.

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Old December 27th, 2007, 06:29 PM   #782
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Of course it is, if you don't understand the magics of the competition, ok, but we do

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Old December 27th, 2007, 10:28 PM   #783
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Aviation enthusiasts, is it really important for AIRPORT A to surpass AIRPORT B because of THIS and THAT? I don't get the logic why there's some sort of competition on passenger numbers.

It`s like soccer. I cheer for the Dubai airport and the Frankfurt airport. But i don`t hate the others. The growth of the Madrid airport is amazing and i am sure they deserve it.

What`s really important for me is the fact that the Frankfurt airport is the airport with most international connections in the world. As you can see in my sig, i really love to travel.
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Old December 28th, 2007, 01:20 PM   #784
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Aviation enthusiasts, is it really important for AIRPORT A to surpass AIRPORT B because of THIS and THAT? I don't get the logic why there's some sort of competition on passenger numbers.

Airports are big business and big economic engines for the city and region they are located in. If you like money, jobs, and all that comes with that, you want as much traffic as possible. Big bustling airports are also more exciting than small desolate ones.

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Old December 28th, 2007, 01:52 PM   #785
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Yes, but single airport figures are misleading in the case of large cities which have several airports such as NYC, Paris, London, or Tokyo. When I see all the "pride" displayed by some because Madrid and Beijing airports are growing fast and overtaking other airports, I say let's not forget that Madrid and Beijing only have ONE airport whereas the cities I mentioned have several airports and have much more traffic overall than either Madrid or Beijing. Also, I'd be interested to know the overall traffic of the Shanghai airports combined. It may actually be higher than traffic at Beijing Airport.
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Old December 28th, 2007, 02:04 PM   #786
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Most things need to be analyzed cognizant of other factors. I'm sure those people aren't quite that thick as to not realize that some cities have more than one airport. They only need to study the whole list to tabulate city numbers. Well, perhaps they are thick. Regardless, growth is good.
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Old December 28th, 2007, 03:37 PM   #787
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Regardless, growth is good.
Not good for the environment though. I frankly prefer a city like Paris where a good half (my guess) of the air traffic is taken over by the carbon-emission-free TGV high speed trains.

BTW, that's a reason why I think when adding up airport traffic for big cities, we should also add up TGV traffic to the airport traffic to get a better picture of the real long distance traffic in and out of the city.
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Old December 28th, 2007, 06:10 PM   #788
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Also, I'd be interested to know the overall traffic of the Shanghai airports combined. It may actually be higher than traffic at Beijing Airport.
Did a quick calculation, PEK>PVG+SHA at least for 2006 figures.
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Old December 28th, 2007, 11:21 PM   #789
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Did a quick calculation, PEK>PVG+SHA at least for 2006 figures.
According to the figures at the beginning of this thread, it's 46,126,079 for the Shanghai airports vs. 48,654,770 for Beijing Airport. So it's neck and neck.
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Old December 29th, 2007, 02:28 AM   #790
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Not good for the environment though.
Like I said, most things need to be analyzed cognizant of other factors.
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Old December 30th, 2007, 05:05 AM   #791
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Aviation enthusiasts, is it really important for AIRPORT A to surpass AIRPORT B because of THIS and THAT? I don't get the logic why there's some sort of competition on passenger numbers.

To me, it shows what airports I can attempt to avoid.
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Old December 30th, 2007, 11:36 PM   #792
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I think Bogota Eldorado airport (BOG) could enter this list soon, as it has handled around 9,500,000 pax as of September of 2007, so it could reach 12,500,000 passengers at the end of 2007.
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Old January 2nd, 2008, 12:26 PM   #793
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Here's the top 100 as of September 2007 (for the last 12 months). Quite a few changes in the ranking.

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Old January 2nd, 2008, 01:42 PM   #794
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From this it's clear that the developing world's powerhouses is moving up much faster, jumping between 5 and 10 spots!
Dubai (8 spots)
Mumbai (7)
New Delhi (5)
Shenzhen (5)
Manila (8)
Johannesburg (7)
Sao Paulo GRU (11)
Chengdu (11)
Moscow DME (8)
Antalya (6)

Although should say that Sao Paulo is somewhat difficult to make out, because it seems that alot have shifted from CGH to GRU, because CGH lost alot of ground...is that to do with the TAM crash and consequences thereafter?
Great to see JNB surpass Brisbane, San Diego, Oslo and Washington (DCA)...moving up to the top 50!
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Old January 2nd, 2008, 02:07 PM   #795
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Thanks GregPz for this wonderful list that you keep updating...

Sorry to ask, but would it be possible for you to update the next 50 as well?

I am hoping for two more airports in India (Chennai and Bangalore) to break into the top 100 in the next 12 months or so.. Both would be touching 10 Million plus by Dec (for the year) while growing at more than 30% y-o-y

To me, airport traffic growth is almost like the GDP number, to a great extent reflecting the underlying economic growth in the countries and cities they represent. Once again thanks!
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Old January 2nd, 2008, 05:31 PM   #796
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Here's the top 100 as of September 2007 (for the last 12 months). Quite a few changes in the ranking.

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9...tssep07jm9.jpg

looks like london heathrow will swap places with tokyo, paris will overtake dallas and maybe even la, and beijing will overtake frankfurt. 2 or 3 more years and the top ten will look completely different.
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Old January 2nd, 2008, 05:38 PM   #797
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How Atlanta Airport gets so many passengers?
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Old January 2nd, 2008, 07:50 PM   #798
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My only answer to that is Delta Airlines, they have the world's biggest hub operation at ATL and if I am not mistaken, they operate to more destinations than any other airline in the world. Airtran has also big presence. I think connecting pax are the vast majority of ATL's passengers.
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Old January 2nd, 2008, 08:24 PM   #799
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SYD overtook YYZ? Wow...
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Old January 3rd, 2008, 03:03 AM   #800
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Here's the top 100 as of September 2007 (for the last 12 months). Quite a few changes in the ranking.

If you put LGA (9.2 miles), JFK (17.9 miles) and EWR (16.7miles) together, you have three airports less than 20 miles from West 34 Street which carried a total of 108.4 million passengers. Leaves ATL and the others for dead.
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