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Old January 3rd, 2008, 03:09 AM   #801
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Well, technically we could do the same with London, although its airports are not that near. LHR+LGW+STN=126,5 million, without Luton and London City.
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Old January 3rd, 2008, 11:40 AM   #802
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And here's the next 50....




Note: Excludes Honolulu, Doha and Karachi
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Old January 3rd, 2008, 12:34 PM   #803
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I was going to ask, but didn't want to be too pushy. Why are Honolulu, Doha, and Karachi excluded?

Looks like Canada may get another 2 airports in the top 100 soon.
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Old January 3rd, 2008, 01:06 PM   #804
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I was going to ask, but didn't want to be too pushy.
Happy to oblige to bangalore's request.

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Why are Honolulu, Doha, and Karachi excluded?
No current data available - well maybe there is for Honolulu but didn't have time to look. I think Honolulu is around 22m so it would be in the top 100. Unless there's been strong growth Karachi wouldn't be in the top 150 and Doha must be pretty close to 10m.
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Old January 3rd, 2008, 02:03 PM   #805
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And here's the next 50....



Note: Excludes Honolulu, Doha and Karachi
Thanks GregPz... really appreciate it..

However I am unable to see the link - not sure if it is a problem at my end
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Old January 3rd, 2008, 02:13 PM   #806
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I've re-uploaded it so hopefully it'll work now. It was working this morning then disappeared for some reason!
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Old January 3rd, 2008, 03:12 PM   #807
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From this it's clear that the developing world's powerhouses is moving up much faster, jumping between 5 and 10 spots!
Dubai (8 spots)
Mumbai (7)
New Delhi (5)
Shenzhen (5)
Manila (8)
Johannesburg (7)
Sao Paulo GRU (11)
Chengdu (11)
Moscow DME (8)
Antalya (6)

Although should say that Sao Paulo is somewhat difficult to make out, because it seems that alot have shifted from CGH to GRU, because CGH lost alot of ground...is that to do with the TAM crash and consequences thereafter?
Great to see JNB surpass Brisbane, San Diego, Oslo and Washington (DCA)...moving up to the top 50!
yes,this is related with the TAM crash and problem with the INFRAERO whom cant be able to administrated the brazilian airports making it all it into a caos,saopaulo-GRU receveid all the international flights,and saopaulo-CGH received all the domestic flghts,but the aircraft in sao paulo metropolitan air space it´s near 40million pax
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Old January 3rd, 2008, 03:32 PM   #808
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airports of berlin/2007: 20million passengers
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Old January 3rd, 2008, 08:21 PM   #809
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And here's the next 50....




Note: Excludes Honolulu, Doha and Karachi
Where are Hangzhou and Chongqing two airports in China? Hangzhou is b/w Kunming and Xian now, and Chongqing is b/w Xian and Xiamen
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Old January 4th, 2008, 03:30 AM   #810
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now that i saw the whole list im really impressed with the australian airports...all of them in the list have a really big traffic compared to another countrys
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Old January 4th, 2008, 05:32 AM   #811
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I wonder how varied the destinations are in Australia? not too many 2nd tier airports I'm sure.
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Old January 4th, 2008, 09:31 AM   #812
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There are approximately 80 commercial airports in Australia

This is Qantas's domestic route map

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Old January 4th, 2008, 10:04 AM   #813
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4 in the top 150 isn't that much for a country the size of Australia. There's several countries which are much smaller than have multiple entries - Spain, Germany, France, UK etc.
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Old January 4th, 2008, 11:27 AM   #814
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I'd have to agree. I would add the USA to that list. They are a massive country, but even relative to their population, their airports are huge. When you have cities like Atlanta occupying top spot, and Minneapolis, Charlotte, Orlando, Las Vegas, Fort Lauderdale, Salt Lake City, Baltimore, Tampa, Cincinnati, Portland, and Oakland in the list, it's note worthy no matter how you slice it. Comparably sized cities in other countries don't post the PAX numbers they do.

4 in the top 10.
10 in the top 20.
16 in the top 30.
18 in the top 40.
21 in the top 50.
24 in the top 60.
27 in the top 70.
28 in the top 80.
30 in the top 90.
32 in the top 100.
34 in the top 110.
37 in the top 120.
40 in the top 130.
41 in the top 140.
45 in the top 150.

That's amazing, especially having 16 of the top 30 places!

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Old January 4th, 2008, 11:49 AM   #815
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4 in the top 150 isn't that much for a country the size of Australia. There's several countries which are much smaller than have multiple entries - Spain, Germany, France, UK etc.
Australia has 21 million people. Aprox 90 million airline passengers per year pass through it's airports. That's quite a bit (note that 95% of these passengers are not transiting the country either)
Spain, Germany, France, UK all have far larger populations and are also European hubs. Australia is not a regional hub. Australia is better compared with Canada in this respect. Compared with the US then Australia should only have 3 airports in the top 150 when seen on a per capita basis.

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Old January 4th, 2008, 02:55 PM   #816
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Atlanta, Georgia alone has 86 million passengers. That's practically the same as all of Australia in one American city of 4.5 million people. Georgia has about 7 million people. Neighbouring American states have their own busy airports. Australian figures aren't that note worthy. They aren't impressive and they aren't unimpressive. You'd expect a country of 21 million to have 90 million passengers pass through her airports in one year. That number is normal.

Australian figures are better than Canadian though. I'll give you that. Despite air travel's long history in Canada right from its very beginnings, PAX in Canada is only around 100 million. A lot of that has to do with government ownership of airports and the languishing of this industry in their hands. Airports in Canada are now beginning to operate as businesses and revenue generators for the communities where they are located. Air travel in Canada is only now starting to benefit from this change.

There are over 300 airports in Canada though only 10 are major airports.

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Old January 4th, 2008, 02:59 PM   #817
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would not expect Atlanta top the list...
i would have thought HK or London or NYC
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Atlanta, Georgia alone has 86 million passengers. That's practically the same as all of Australia in one American city of 4.5 million people. Georgia has about 7 million people. Neighbouring American states have their own busy airports. Australian figures aren't that note worthy. They aren't impressive and they aren't unimpressive. You'd expect a country of 21 million to have 90 million passengers pass through her airports in one year. That number is normal.
Normal where?
I cant think of a single European country that can match that (pop/pax).
It's similar to the US and Canada on a per capita basis but far excedes the rest of the world with the exception of city states like Hong Kong and Singapore.

Atlanta is Delta's main domestic hub. You're taking an extreme example and portaying it as if it's the norm. What about San Diego then? Cleveland? New Orleans (pre Katrina)? .....
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would not expect Atlanta top the list...
i would have thought HK or London or NYC
Hong Kong, London and New York are more international hubs. Domestic / regional hubs are what really score in the rankings (ie: very high frequencies moving large numbers)
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Old January 4th, 2008, 04:06 PM   #820
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Normal where?
I cant think of a single European country that can match that (pop/pax).
Well the UK has around 240 million pax so that would give it the same ratio as Australia of about 4:1.

Doing a quick add up off the main airports in some countries shows:
Norway adds up to around 38m pax giving a ratio twice as high 8:1
Switzerland has at least 36m 5:1
Spain 207m 5:1

I haven't added up numbers for other countries but I think that shows it is pretty normal in the western world. It's perhaps more surprising in Europe considering the extensive rail infrastructure and shorter distances.

btw New Zealand is more than 5:1
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