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Old April 20th, 2016, 10:01 AM   #1581
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I agree. Toronto is growing quickly. However, Ontario has 13.9 million people. So there's no way the catchment area is 13 million (~92% of Ontario). People in Ottawa are not driving to Toronto (they use Ottawa Macdonald-Cartier International Airport) and nobody in Northern Ontario is driving to Toronto either (they use regional airports). That's 2 million right there. And neither are people in Windsor or likely even Kingston. It's closer to 11 million. And though I agree that the Golden Horseshoe is growing quickly, your numbers aren't realistic. Southern Ontario is not going to add 3 million people in 14 years. That's 215,000 people a year. Toronto's growing at slightly over half that rate. Closer to 115k-120k: (WARNING pdf: http://www.ryerson.ca/content/dam/cu...ckgrounder.pdf).

One of your main points is that population growth should propel Toronto up the chart. Yet in the U.S. alone there are 6 metropolitan areas that are growing at the same rate as Toronto, if not faster (Dallas is averaging 131k population growth per year, Houston is averaging 141k, Los Angeles is averaging 153k, New York is averaging 123k, San Francisco is averaging 107k and Washington is averaging 109k. Then you have Miami averaging 93k and Atlanta averaging 87k per year since 2010. Atlanta's number is set to surpass 100k per year again soon so they'll likely swap spots in growth with Washington. But the point is that Toronto's population growth is not an outlier. It's impressive but fairly normal for a 5 million+ metro in North America. Impressive is Houston which is growing at 160k a year (probably closer to 180k with the undercounting of illegal immigrants).

Aside from that, however, is the problem that catchment size really means very little in the grand scheme of things. Charlotte gets 44,876,627 passengers with 2.6 million people. Toronto gets 43,936,847 with 8 million people. And if you look at catchment rates, Charlotte maybe adds another 1.5 million people. So in the end Charlotte beats Toronto even though its catchment area is ~7,000,000 people less than Toronto. Phoenix is the same. Las Vegas certainly. The fastest growing airports are hubs. And hubs by definition don't need to be in gigantic cities. Dubai gets 90,000,000 pax with 3 million people. Atlanta gets 100,000,000 pax with 6.5 million people. Airports move to the top of the ranks quickly when they act as regional hubs. Mexico City has fewer passengers than Rome, even though Mexico City's catchment area is over 30,000,000 people while Rome's is closer to 5,000,000. Montreal has 15,000,000 pax a year while Doha (with 3x fewer people) has 2x that: 31,110,000. I think it's fairly intuitive to think that more people means more traffic. That is generally true. But very few of the big airports today got to where they were by letting population growth dictate airport growth. Most were very proactive in working with airlines to develop intricate and extensive hub-and-spoke systems.

And international passenger traffic is misleading. If an American flies from Honolulu to Boston, that's 'domestic'. If an American flies from Boston to Halifax, that's 'international.' America is a huge market of 325,000,000 people and its airports are in the business of appealing to a domestic market. When you're an American airport and you have 325 million potential passengers at your disposal, you tend to fight for market share of that domestic pie (especially if you aren't a major metropolitan area). When you are a Canadian airport your focus is outside of Canada because there are only six real cities - Calgary, Edmonton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto and Vancouver. So of course the onus is building ties with other countries or with US airports. Canada's domestic pie is much smaller. So Canadian airports have more international passengers even when they are far behind U.S. airports in passengers. That's just a function of geography.

And you noted that "YYZ might not be anywhere near passing major hubs like LAX and ORD, but it should be able to remain in the top 5 busiest in North America." Remain is a rather peculiar word. When has Toronto been in the Top 5? It's #13 today. It's hard to remain in the Top 5 when you've never even been close to it, don't you think? Again, the U.S. has 4 airport systems (Atlanta, Chicago, Los Angeles, New York) which exceed 95 million pax. So to be the fifth biggest airport hub in North America, Toronto would need Pearson to double in pax and then would need a massive amount of growth in Munro. Dallas and Miami will likely have 80 million pax each among their airports. And San Francisco will reach 80 million pax among its 3 airports within 2-3 years. So that right there is 7 N.A. cities where Toronto needs to surpass. And it will only do that by literally doubling the number of passengers its airports carry. Doable? I suppose nothing is impossible. But I wouldn't bet on it happening.
More important then any of that is that for Toronto to fully surpass and realize its true potential for a city of its approximate size then full regulatory air barriers between the Canada and US would need to be broken down and there would have to be a fully single unified market in every way.

The reason why cities like Denver, Dallas, Atlanta etc. are what they are is because they are HUGE regional hubs. Hubs that are also integrated into a wider single air market (the whole United States). This maximized their usefullness and their potential. Toronto on the other hand will also be limited by the size and market that is greater Canada. A very dispersed market in which to be a gateway hub. Whereas Chicago can be the hub of a 60 million Midwest market inside a wider 330 million market. Where Atlanta can be a the hub of 50 million SE market inside a 330 million market.

Canada will always have a high floor but a low ceiling until NA regulations are removed. It will always be a big fish in a small pond that is the Canadian market and will always be an ancillary player in the much larger American market that is needed in order to compete with the mega US hubs. Toronto's population and growth are getting where it is needed to be a mega-hub but for the reasons I mentioned even if those demographic factors are there the practical regulatory factors will always block it from its full potential.
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Old April 21st, 2016, 06:11 AM   #1582
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I agree. The only thing stopping me from vacationing in Quebec at some point is the fact that a round-trip ticket to Montreal is $200. You can fly from DC to Guadeloupe or Martinique (much further away) for $90. I can fly to California for cheaper than I can fly to Montreal (even though DC to Montreal is only 1.5 hours). In Europe, a 1.5 hour flight would cost $30 round-trip. In North America, it's three times that price. And with Canada it's even more expensive. Going to Europe just reminds me how bad the situation is when I get back to the States. Right now, the only affordable routes are from DC to Orlando, Miami, or Las Vegas (where frequency is so high that prices are really low).

I think Toronto Pearson can hit 75 million by 2025. Airport growth tends to be exponential in nature. Success breeds success. A lot of that is because hubs are predicated on having tons of foot traffic. The more passengers in an airport, the more airlines want to come in because they can codeshare their way to profit. Getting from 45 million to 55 million is harder than 55 to 65. So I think Toronto can get to 75 million by 2025 with some good momentum. Do I think that's enough for #5 in North America? Well, you already have 7 cities at 75 million pax within their airports. By 2025 they'll all likely be over 100 million.

Airport systems in the U.S. and Canada by pax:
  1. New York: 126,651,526
  2. Atlanta: 101,491,106
  3. Chicago: 99,170,835
  4. Los Angeles: 95,793,140
  5. Dallas: 78,671,661
  6. Miami: 77,557,288
  7. San Francisco: 71,014,239
  8. Washington: 66,669,853
  9. Denver: 54,014,502
  10. Houston: 53,414,359
  11. Las Vegas: 45,389,074
  12. Charlotte: 44,876,627
  13. Toronto: 43,936,847
  14. Phoenix: 43,376,899
  15. Seattle: 42,340,537
  16. Orlando: 41,289,459
  17. Boston: 39,111,359
  18. Minneapolis: 36,582,854
  19. Detroit: 33,440,112
  20. Philadelphia: 31,444,403
Agree as well. Toronto has too much momentum and scale to stay stuck in 13th over the long term but also agree that 5th isn't in the cards over the short term (14 years). No way. It's possible over the long term but there are too many moving parts to make a long term prediction any more than a guess.

One interesting development is that Pearson is now the 5th largest entry point into the United States after JFK, O'Hare, Miami and LAX international airports (check page 3.2 in the link below). So maybe something's happening there. Pearson is managing to turn itself into a transit point to the continent. It may evolve into a major north American hub rather than just a major Canadian hub.

Btw, I believe that Pearson used to be amongst the world's 20 busiest airports but couldn't find the info. It would have been way back in the 60s or 70s. Combining Pearson with Munro, Billy Bishop, and Lexington, Toronto area airports could get to 75 million by 2030. It could be higher or lower but 75 million looks like an attainable goal.

GTAA passenger predictions for Pearson
2015: 42,891,000
2020: 50,286,000
2025: 58,108,000
2030: 66,030,000


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Old April 21st, 2016, 05:09 PM   #1583
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What's the reason for Pearson to be the 5th largest entry point in the US? Why would so many travel from Toronto to US by road when there are several international airports in US itself and with probably lesser fares? Many would also need a separate visa from Canada other than obtaining US visa.
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What's the reason for Pearson to be the 5th largest entry point in the US? Why would so many travel from Toronto to US by road when there are several international airports in US itself and with probably lesser fares? Many would also need a separate visa from Canada other than obtaining US visa.
Pearson has very extensive connections to Europe and fabulous connections to the United States. I believe one can fly from Europe to the US via Pearson without too much hassle. A growing number of people are doing so. I'm a bit surprised Pearson is as high as 5th though.

Car hops across the border are hugely popular but if one's going far one would likely fly. Detroit is about as far as we'll drive. If one's going to Chicago, we'll fly. Most people heading to NYC will fly.
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I believe people flying from Toronto to US cities will/should not be counted in this category. For example, if someone flies from Munich to Denver via Toronto, then his/her point of entry in US is Denver, not Toronto.
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In the example above, I suppose Denver would count it as well so they'd be a double count. It's still very useful information for Pearson to distinguish this type of travel from the rest. It's a key gauge of whether they're being successful in morphing from a Canadian hub into a north American hub.
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Data for January 2016



New year started for most airports in positive way. Only CGK, GRU and CLT saw passenger decrease on month-to-month data.
PEK surpassed 90+ passenger for the first time in history,
SYD a BCN crossed 40+ passengers becoming 38th respectively 39th airport to achieve that
BKK and ICN experienced the busiest month in the history.
Jakarta Soekarno-Hatta is still being hit hard for the second year on row, without any obvious reasons it seems. However, traffic to HLP (Jakarta-Halim Perdanakusuma) for domestic purposes has increased steeply because of airplanes diverted to there since the summer of 2014 and passengers who like it because of its proximity to big parts of the city.

The number for HLP is known virtually nowhere, a gross calculation may be made:
Citilink has 46 flights per day to HLP (arrivals and departures combined, source from a Citilink inflight magazine), each with 180 seats. Assume 160 of them are occupied, 160*46*365 would mean 2686400. Then there is also Batik Air and a handful of other airlines. 4.5 million pax per year is a realistic number, that takes away a lot of CGK.

So if someone is able to get the actual number of passengers of HLP, please, you're welcome

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In the example above, I suppose Denver would count it as well so they'd be a double count. It's still very useful information for Pearson to distinguish this type of travel from the rest. It's a key gauge of whether they're being successful in morphing from a Canadian hub into a north American hub.
In that case, it is tough to believe that Dubai, HK or London are below Toronto. These cities have far more transit pax.
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In that case, it is tough to believe that Dubai, HK or London are below Toronto. These cities have far more transit pax.
I'm not so sure about that. Those cities surely have substantial transit PAX to the US, but Toronto has a lot as well. Total PAX between Pearson and the US in 2015 was 11,154,435. That was up 6.2% from the year before.


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So another month has passed and I was able to compile data for February 2016.

Thanks to leap year 49 out of 50 airports reported positive growth! Many of them double digit growth.

SZX became 40th airport to reach 40 million passengers



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Bubbalo, are you going to rank world airports up to 500th or 1000th this year?

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Monthly passenger numbers by route. These numbers correspond to October 2015 and include both ways (arrivals and departures)


New York JFK:
1. Los Ángeles International LAX -> 303.611 passengers -5.372 passengers
2. LondonHeathrow LHR -> 299.387 passengers +23.140 passengers
3. San Francisco SFO -> 220.647 passengers+11.939 passengers
4. Paris Charles de Gaulle CDG -> 139.178 passengers+19.282 passengers
5. Orlando International MCO -> 119.497 passengers+5.532 passengers
6. Boston Logan BOS -> 104.164 passengers+9.459 passengers
7. Las Vegas McCarran LAS -> 103.736 passengers+5.723 passengers
8. Miami International MIA -> 88.631 passengers+4.375 passengers
9. San Juan de Puerto Rico Luís Muñoz Marín SJU -> 81.562 passengers+1.995 passengers
10. Fort Lauderdale Hollywood FLL -> 81.436 passengers+8.546 passengers
11. Frankfurt International FRA -> 77.417 passengers-1.753 passengers
12. Seattle Tacoma SEA -> 70.562 passengers+11.364 passengers
13. Madrid Barajas MAD -> 70.491 passengers
14. Phoenix Sky Harbor PHX -> 66.390 passengers+3.092 passengers
15. Rome Fiumicino FCO -> 64.859 passengers-2.029 passengers
16. Chicago O'Hare ORD -> 64.743 passengers+16.571 passengers
17. Milan Malpensa MXP -> 62.963 passengers+3.294 passengers
18. Santo Domingo Las Américas SDQ -> 61.989 pasajeros +9.552 pasajeros
19. Seoul Incheon ICN -> 61.955 passengers+13.560 passengers
20. Amsterdam Schiphol AMS -> 61.691 passengers-369 passengers
21. Santiago de los Caballeros Cibao STI -> 60.925 passengers+11.511 passengers
22. Charlotte Douglass CLT -> 59.897 passengers-6.794 passengers
23. Sao Paulo Guarulhos GRU -> 58.333 passengers+889 passengers
22. Tel Aviv Ben Gurion TLV -> 56.926 passengers-2.661 passengers
23. Dublin International DUB -> 55.526 passengers+3.539 passengers
24. Ciudad de México Benito Juárez MEX -> 54.566 passengers+5.482 passengers
25. Tokyo Narita NRT -> 53.496 passengers-2.311 passengers

Los Angeles LAX
1. San Francisco International SFO -> 308.018 passengers+1.087 passengers
2. New York City John F.Kennedy JFK -> 303.611 passengers-5.372 passengers
3. Chicago O'Hare ORD -> 244.253 passengers+40.021 passengers
4. Las Vegas McCarran LAS -> 237.415 passengers+34.694 passengers
5. Dallas Fort Worth DFW -> 214.613 passengers+28.203 passengers
6. Atlanta Hartsfield Jackson ATL -> 184.590 passengers+29.462 passengers
7. Denver International DEN -> 179.835 passengers+18.242 passengers
8. Honolulu International HNL -> 175.293 passengers+20.429 passengers
9. Seattle Tacoma SEA -> 168.463 passengers+20.162 passengers
10. Phoenix Sky Harbor PHX -> 146.987 passengers+7.621 passengers
11. Houston George Bush IAH -> 143.039 passengers+28.621 passengers
12. LondonHeathrow LHR -> 134.239 passengers +11.462 pasajeros
13. Newark Liberty EWR -> 120.485 passengers +12.901 passengers
14. Boston Logan BOS -> 112.579 passengers +8.609 passengers
15. San José Mineta SJC -> 99.434 passengers-2.818 passengers
16. Minnepolis Saint Paul MSP -> 99.160 passengers+6.495 passengers
17. Salt Lake City International SLC -> 98.372 passengers+4.633 passengers
18. Portland PDX -> 96.785 passengers+38.948 passengers
19. Miami International MIA -> 91.587 passengers+16.350 passengers
20. Oakland OAK -> 90.529 passengers+6.014 passengers
21. Tokyo Narita NRT -> 89.880 passengers+3.143 passengers
22. Sacramento SMF -> 87.175 passengers-976 passengers
23. Washington D.C Dulles IAD -> 85.843 passengers-11.428 passengers
24. Seoul Incheon ICN -> 84.197 passengers-5.161 passengers
25. Sydney Kingsford Smith SYD -> 84.357 passengers-5.126 passengers

Atlanta Hartsfield Jackson ATL:
1. Orlando International MCO -> 252.822 passengers+19.600 passengers
2. Fort Lauderdale Hollywood FLL -> 215.108 passengers+18.254 passengers
3. New York City LaGuardia LGA -> 202.260 passengers+29.524 passengers
4. Tampa International TPA -> 194.995 passengers+14.461 passengers
5. Los Angeles International LAX -> 184.590 passengers+29.462 passengers
6. Chicago O'Hare ORD -> 181.708 passengers+40.124 passengers
7. Charlotte Douglass CLT -> 174.677 passengers+10.304 passengers
8. Dallas Fort Worth DFW -> 171.104 passengers-2.720 passengers
9. Philadelphia International PHL -> 168.519 passengers+20.034 passengers
10. Washington D.C Ronald Reagan DCA -> 153.420 passengers+8.676 passengers
11. Miami International MIA -> 150.302 passengers+22.677 passengers
12. Baltimore Thurgood Marshall BWI -> 142.072 passengers+11.943 passengers
13. Denver International DEN -> 138.405 passengers+19.130 passengers
14. Jacksonville JAX -> 136.046 passengers+3.837 passengers
15. Minneapolis Saint Paul MSP -> 135.860 passengers+7.692 passengers
16. Boston Logan BOS -> 135.848 passengers-2.371 passengers
17. New Orleans Louis Amstrong MSY -> 135.154 passengers+3.344 passengers
18. Detroit Wayne County DTW -> 130.238 passengers+18.490 passengers
19. Las Vegas McCarran LAS -> 130.001 passengers+8.629 passengers
20. Raleigh Durham RDU -> 128.448 passengers+8.506 passengers
21. West Palm Beach PBI -> 113.614 passengers+5.065 passengers
22. Phoenix Sky Harbor PHX -> 107.342 passengers-1.297 passengers
23. Indianapolis IND -> 105.449 passengers+16.433 passengers
24. Newark Liberty EWR -> 104.229 passengers+13.568 passengers
25. San Francisco International SFO -> 102.114 passengers-11.748 passengers


Chicago O'Hare ORD
1. New York City LaGuardia LGA -> 286.535 passengers +32.352 passengers
2. Los Angeles International LAX -> 244.253 passengers +40.021 passengers
3. San Francisco International SFO -> 235.705 passengers +27.714 passengers
4. Dallas Fort Worth DFW -> 194.796 passengers +8.477 passengers
5. Boston Logan BOS -> 184.123 passengers +12.819 passengers
6. Atlanta Hartsfield Jackson ATL -> 181.701 passengers +40.124 passengers
7. Minneapolis Saint Paul MSP -> 175.582 passengers +18.152 passengers
8. Denver DEN -> 157.458 passengers +17.396 passengers
9. Philadelphia International PHL -> 150.913 passengers +32.332 passengers
10. Washington D.C Ronald Reagan DCA -> 143.979 passengers +19.281 passengers
11. Phoenix Sky Harbor PHX -> 133.615 passengers +18.456 passengers
12. Houston George Bush IAH -> 129.178 passengers +22.458 passengers
13. Las Vegas McCarran LAS -> 128.333 passengers +16.417 passengers
14. Newark Libery EWR -> 120.028 passengers +5.772 passengers
14. Orlando International MCO -> 118.466 passengers +18.793 passengers
15. Miami International MIA -> 110.830 passengers +29.425 passengers
16. Charlotte Douglass CLT -> 109.224 passengers +8.081 passengers
17. Seattle Tacoma SEA -> 105.955 passengers -4.816 passengers
18. Londres Heathrow LHR -> 95.670 passengers -4.089 passengers
19. Detroit Wayne County DTW -> 94.559 passengers +14.139 passengers
20. San Diego International SAN -> 78.684 passengers +13.915 passengers
21. Toronto Pearson YYZ -> 78.668 passengers +29.84 passengers
22. Portland PDX -> 72.501 passengers +623 passengers
23. Cleveland Hopkins CLE -> 70.463 passengers -485 passengers
24. Saint Louis Lambert STL -> 68.807 passengers -4.214 passengers
25. Indianapolis IND -> 66.517 passengers +5.298 passengers

Miami International MIA
1. Atlanta Hartsfield Jackson ATL-> 150.302 pasajeros +22.677 pasajeros
2. New York LaGuardia LGA -> 148.358 passengers +43.349 passengers
3. Chicago O'Hare ORD -> 110.830 passengers +29.425 passengers
4. Dallas Fort Worth DFW -> 107.630 passengers +20.810 passengers
5. Los Angeles International LAX -> 91.587 passengers +16.350 passengers
6. New York John F.Kennedy JFK -> 88.631 passengers +4.375 passengers
7. Londres Heathrow LHR -> 87.605 passengers +5.723 passengers
8. Sao Paulo Guarulhos GRU -> 83.247 passengers -5.484 passengers
9. Orlando International MCO -> 82.737 passengers -305 passengers
10. Washington D.C Ronald Reagan DCA -> 78.677 passengers +16.388 passengers
11. Charlotte Douglass CLT -> 76.007 passengers +10.225 passengers
12. Newark Liberty EWR -> 68.674 passengers +15.706 passengers
13. Buenos Aires Ezeiza EZE -> 68.075 passengers +10.208 passengers
14. Boston Logan BOS -> 64.656 passengers +9.576 passengers
15. Philadelphia International PHL -> 63.760 passengers +13.809 passengers
16. Ciudad de México Benito Juárez MEZ -> 62.405 passengers +8.900 passengers
17. Houston George Bush IAH -> 61.939 passengers +4.419 passengers
18. Bogotá El Dorado BOG -> 60.247 passengers +1.899 passengers
19. San Juan de Puerto Rico Luís Muñoz Marín SJU -> 60.118 passengers +8.005 passengers
20. Lima Jorge Chávez LIM -> 60.048 passengers -281 passengers
21. Madrid Barajas MAD -> 52.573 passengers +11.234 passengers
22. Ciudad de Panamá Tocumen PTY -> 51.783 passengers -3.886 passengers
23. La Habana José Martí HAV -> 46.826 passengers +10.987 passengers
24. Cancún International CUN -> 46.413 passengers +8.285 passengers
25. Caracas Simón Bolívar CCS -> 40.317 passengers -7.429 passengers


Dallas Fort Worth DFW
1. Los Angeles International LAX -> 214.613 passengers +28.203 passengers
2. Chicago O'Hare ORD -> 196.794 passengers +8.477 passengers
3. Atlanta Hartsfield Jackson ATL -> 171.104 passengers -2.720 passengers
4. Denver International DEN -> 149.435 passengers -1.694 passengers
5. New York LaGuardia LGA -> 142.157 passengers +13.632 passengers
6. Phoenix Sky Harbor PHX -> 120.819 passengers +7.091 passengers
7. San Francisco International SFO -> 112.167 passengers -4.964 passengers
8. Las Vegas McCarran LAS -> 110.926 passengers -13.929 passengers
9. Charlotte Douglass CLT -> 108.025 passengers +1.901 passengers
10. Miami International MIA -> 107.630 passengers +20.810 passengers
11. Austin Bergstrom AUS -> 104.538 passengers -2.181 passengers
12. Orlando International MCO -> 99.382 passengers +3.957 passengers
13. Houston George Bush IAH -> 98.011 passengers +17.663 passengers
14. Philadelphia International PHL -> 97.826 passengers +5.053 passengers
15. San Diego International SAN -> 93.747 passengers +9.392 passengers
16. San Antonio SAN -> 93.060 passengers -7.559 passengers
17. Seattle Tacoma SEA -> 87.771 passengers -5.743 passengers
18. Minneapolis Saint Paul MSP -> 87.557 passengers +9.107 passengers
19. Washington D.C Ronald Reagan DCA -> 87.134 passengers +4.494 passengers
20. Boston Logan BOS -> 83.930 passengers +3.154 passengers
21. Newark Liberty EWR -> 76.477 passengers +18.688 passengers
22. Detroit Wayne County DTW -> 75.366 passengers +1.495 passengers
23. Salt Lake City International SLC -> 69.144 passengers +6.922 passengers
24. Santa Ana John Wayne SNA -> 68.368 passengers -7.066 passengers
25. Fort Lauderdale Hollywood FLL -> 67.363 passengers +2.871 passengers
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Bubbalo, are you going to rank world airports up to 500th or 1000th this year?

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I can provide list of 2014 since I will be gathering info for 2015 throughout all 2016 (some of the airports still has not released their numbers yet)
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Old April 29th, 2016, 08:21 PM   #1594
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I can provide list of 2014 since I will be gathering info for 2015 throughout all 2016 (some of the airports still has not released their numbers yet)
Figures for 2014 would be nice

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Old May 8th, 2016, 01:00 AM   #1597
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The most important airports in Latin American: El Dorado (Bogotá), B. Juárez (Cd. de México) and Guarulhos (Sao Paulo).
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The most important airports in Latin American: El Dorado (Bogotá), B. Juárez (Cd. de México) and Guarulhos (Sao Paulo).
Yes, but not in that order.

Important to point out that Sao Paulo remains the busiest air space not only in Latin America (by far), but in the whole Southern Hemisphere. By passengers, cargo and aircraft movements.

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Yes, but not in that order.

Important to point out that Sao Paulo remains the busiest air space not only in Latin America (by far), but in the whole Southern Hemisphere. By passengers, cargo and aircraft movements.
I think it will not be for much longer, see what happens in about five years....
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That's kinda comparing apples and pears as of the three São Paulo is the only airport in the Southern Hemisphere...

Also how about the airport(s) of Jakarta. More passengers than the Sao Paolo airports combined.
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