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Old May 25th, 2016, 10:50 PM   #1621
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Do those figures include SE Asia? I'd imagine Perth and Auckland would have higher numbers than some of those cities at the end of the list for East Asia too?

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Old May 25th, 2016, 11:25 PM   #1622
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No, it's just East Asia (China, HK, Taiwan, Koreas, Japan, and Mongolia). Like I said, comparisons for South-East Asia are impossible to make, due to super-long distances which means many of these countries do not have direct flights to Europe/North America, plus the fact that it get mixed with traffic to/from Australia/NZ.

Regarding Perth, it had 267,013 passengers with East Asian airports in 2014, of which 215,843 were with Hong Kong and 51,170 with Guangzhou, so less than any other cities in the two lists. There were no direct flights between Perth and Japan/Korea/Taiwan in 2014.

In 2015, Perth-Hong Kong traffic rose to 226,649, and Perth-Guangzhou traffic rose to 61,803. No traffic with any other East Asian airport.

I can't find data for Auckland. Most likely they have less traffic with East Asia than Sydney and Melbourne.

Since I'm at it, in 2014 there were 172,406 air passengers between Nouméa and East Asia, divided like this: 110,828 between Nouméa and Tokyo, 55,810 between Nouméa and Osaka, and 5,768 between Nouméa and Seoul.

Aircalin unfortunately closed its Nouméa-Seoul line in March 2014 (traffic on that line in 2013 had been 41,591 passengers), so that leaves only Tokyo and Osaka in East Asia now for direct flights to and from Nouméa.
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Old May 29th, 2016, 05:20 PM   #1623
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Old May 30th, 2016, 09:15 AM   #1627
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I like the way he leaves out Hong Kong to avoid showing how much larger the london-china traffic is than the paris-china, so transparent lol, also a ridiculous thing to do, but hey ho. All the important routes London dominates in, Paris in the much less important routes, isn't that right
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Old May 31st, 2016, 12:24 AM   #1628
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January through April:
Schiphol (2016 vs 2015): 18.211.376 vs 16.303.392 +11,7%
Frankfurt (2016 vs 2015): 17.859.466 vs 17.571.083 +1,6%
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Old May 31st, 2016, 01:23 AM   #1629
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I like the way he leaves out Hong Kong to avoid showing how much larger the london-china traffic is than the paris-china, so transparent lol, also a ridiculous thing to do, but hey ho. All the important routes London dominates in, Paris in the much less important routes, isn't that right
From an air transport point of view, Hong Kong is not part of China. They don't have the same country codes (neither Eurostat nor the US Bureau of Transportation nor Australia assign them the same country codes), they are separated by an almost international border with different visa requirements, they don't have the same currency and the same laws, etc. Hong Kong is a market of its own in the same way Singapore is also a market of its own distinct from Malaysia, and both cities are used by people traveling to/from Australia/NZ.

In any case, even if we add up mainland China and HK, Paris has now nearly reached London (2,416,612 passengers in 2015 for Paris<--> China + HK, vs 2,657,042 for London<--> China + HK), and should pass it in 2017 at current growth rates (+13% in 2013 for Paris<--> China + HK, and +45% since the peak year of 2007, vs only +5% in 2015 for London<--> China + HK, and +16% since the peak year of 2017).

Paris also has far more passengers than London with East Asia when Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and Mongolia are also added. Hong Kong and Taipei are the only two cities in East Asia with which London has more traffic than Paris. Paris has more traffic than London with all other East Asian cities.
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Old June 2nd, 2016, 02:49 AM   #1630
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London airports system:

2015: 153,487,957
2014: 146,685,710
Growth: 4.64%


Paris airports system:

2015: 99,761,998
2014: 96,208,332
Growth: 3.69%

Apparently, London doesn't rely on East Asia to grow faster.

In 2015, Paris lost to Atlanta the 4th place as the busiest airport system in the world. London is the number 1, followed by New York and Tokyo.
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Old June 2nd, 2016, 11:38 PM   #1631
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Apparently, London doesn't rely on East Asia to grow faster.
Traffic at the London airports in 2015 grew essentially for flights to and from the British Isles (+7.1% air passengers compared to the previous year), and to/from Continental Europe (+8.1%, with in particular to/from Romania: +29.1%, to/from Poland: +18.2%, to/from Denmark: +14.7%, to/from Greece: +10.5%, to/from Portugal: +9.5%, to/from Spain: +8.4%).

Traffic growth between the London airports and the rest of the world outside of Europe was much more subdued, with only +1.6% air passengers in 2015 compared to the previous year.

For Paris we don't have the detail of Beauvais Airport yet, we only have the detail for CDG and Orly, which make up nearly 96% of all traffic from the 3 Paris airports.

At CDG and Orly in 2015, domestic air traffic (to/from Metropolitan France) grew by only +0.8%, whereas traffic to/from Europe outside of France grew by +3.5%. Traffic to/from the rest of the world outside Europe grew by +3.4% air passengers compared to the previous year.

So these figures show that the London airports had more air passenger growth than the Paris airports in 2015 essentially due to travels within the British Isles and to/from Continental Europe, whereas the Paris airports had more air passenger growth than the London airports with the rest of the world.

By regions of the world, this is what we have. I cannot distinguish sub-Saharan Africa from North Africa, and North America from the Caribbean, because the detailed Paris data there have not yet been released. Also, the result for Africa would be affected by Beauvais traffic, but not by much. For all other regions of the world, there is no traffic at Beauvais, so the lack of data from Beauvais makes no difference.

Air passenger traffic to/from East Asia in 2015:
- Paris airports: +7.0%
- London airports: +0.9%

Air passenger traffic to/from South-East Asia and Australia/NZ in 2015:
- Paris airports: +4.1%
- London airports: +2.6%

Air passenger traffic to/from the Indian subcontinent in 2015:
- Paris airports: +14.1%
- London airports: -5.7%

Air passenger traffic to/from Central Asia and the Caucasus in 2015:
- Paris airports: -5.8%
- London airports: -7.5%

Air passenger traffic to/from the Middle East (including Turkey) in 2015:
- Paris airports: +5.3%
- London airports: +4.4%

Air passenger traffic to/from Africa in 2015:
- Paris airports: +0.9% (sub-Saharan Africa should be more than +3%, whereas North Africa should be around -1%)
- London airports: -6.3% (sub-Saharan Africa: -4.5% ; North Africa: -8.6%)

To/from North America and the Caribbean/Guianas in 2015:
- Paris airports: +5.3% (North America should be more than +7.5%, whereas Caribbean/Guianas should be slightly less than +0.5%)
- London airports: +3.2% (North America: +2.7% ; Caribbean/Guianas: +8.5%)

To/from continental Latin America:
- London airports: +8.5%
- Paris airports: +1.2%

TOTAL all regions outside of Europe:
- Paris airports: +3.4%
- London airports: +1.6%
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Old June 4th, 2016, 09:05 PM   #1632
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Traffic at the London airports in 2015 grew essentially for flights to and from the British Isles (+7.1% air passengers compared to the previous year), and to/from Continental Europe (+8.1%, with in particular to/from Romania: +29.1%, to/from Poland: +18.2%, to/from Denmark: +14.7%, to/from Greece: +10.5%, to/from Portugal: +9.5%, to/from Spain: +8.4%).

Traffic growth between the London airports and the rest of the world outside of Europe was much more subdued, with only +1.6% air passengers in 2015 compared to the previous year.

For Paris we don't have the detail of Beauvais Airport yet, we only have the detail for CDG and Orly, which make up nearly 96% of all traffic from the 3 Paris airports.

At CDG and Orly in 2015, domestic air traffic (to/from Metropolitan France) grew by only +0.8%, whereas traffic to/from Europe outside of France grew by +3.5%. Traffic to/from the rest of the world outside Europe grew by +3.4% air passengers compared to the previous year.

So these figures show that the London airports had more air passenger growth than the Paris airports in 2015 essentially due to travels within the British Isles and to/from Continental Europe, whereas the Paris airports had more air passenger growth than the London airports with the rest of the world.

By regions of the world, this is what we have. I cannot distinguish sub-Saharan Africa from North Africa, and North America from the Caribbean, because the detailed Paris data there have not yet been released. Also, the result for Africa would be affected by Beauvais traffic, but not by much. For all other regions of the world, there is no traffic at Beauvais, so the lack of data from Beauvais makes no difference.

Air passenger traffic to/from East Asia in 2015:
- Paris airports: +7.0%
- London airports: +0.9%

Air passenger traffic to/from South-East Asia and Australia/NZ in 2015:
- Paris airports: +4.1%
- London airports: +2.6%

Air passenger traffic to/from the Indian subcontinent in 2015:
- Paris airports: +14.1%
- London airports: -5.7%

Air passenger traffic to/from Central Asia and the Caucasus in 2015:
- Paris airports: -5.8%
- London airports: -7.5%

Air passenger traffic to/from the Middle East (including Turkey) in 2015:
- Paris airports: +5.3%
- London airports: +4.4%

Air passenger traffic to/from Africa in 2015:
- Paris airports: +0.9% (sub-Saharan Africa should be more than +3%, whereas North Africa should be around -1%)
- London airports: -6.3% (sub-Saharan Africa: -4.5% ; North Africa: -8.6%)

To/from North America and the Caribbean/Guianas in 2015:
- Paris airports: +5.3% (North America should be more than +7.5%, whereas Caribbean/Guianas should be slightly less than +0.5%)
- London airports: +3.2% (North America: +2.7% ; Caribbean/Guianas: +8.5%)

To/from continental Latin America:
- London airports: +8.5%
- Paris airports: +1.2%

TOTAL all regions outside of Europe:
- Paris airports: +3.4%
- London airports: +1.6%
You put a lot if really good and interesting work into your posts but you do seem to be a little bit obsessed with London!
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Old June 4th, 2016, 09:12 PM   #1633
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You put a lot if really good and interesting work into your posts but you do seem to be a little bit obsessed with London!
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Interesting chart of traffic in Latam. Curious as to why Argentina has such modest traffic. Judging by regional airport numbers, domestic air travel must be very low compared to, say, Colombia. What gives?
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Traffic at the London airports in 2015 grew essentially for flights to and from the British Isles (+7.1% air passengers compared to the previous year), and to/from Continental Europe (+8.1%, with in particular to/from Romania: +29.1%, to/from Poland: +18.2%, to/from Denmark: +14.7%, to/from Greece: +10.5%, to/from Portugal: +9.5%, to/from Spain: +8.4%).

Traffic growth between the London airports and the rest of the world outside of Europe was much more subdued, with only +1.6% air passengers in 2015 compared to the previous year.

For Paris we don't have the detail of Beauvais Airport yet, we only have the detail for CDG and Orly, which make up nearly 96% of all traffic from the 3 Paris airports.

At CDG and Orly in 2015, domestic air traffic (to/from Metropolitan France) grew by only +0.8%, whereas traffic to/from Europe outside of France grew by +3.5%. Traffic to/from the rest of the world outside Europe grew by +3.4% air passengers compared to the previous year.

So these figures show that the London airports had more air passenger growth than the Paris airports in 2015 essentially due to travels within the British Isles and to/from Continental Europe, whereas the Paris airports had more air passenger growth than the London airports with the rest of the world.

By regions of the world, this is what we have. I cannot distinguish sub-Saharan Africa from North Africa, and North America from the Caribbean, because the detailed Paris data there have not yet been released. Also, the result for Africa would be affected by Beauvais traffic, but not by much. For all other regions of the world, there is no traffic at Beauvais, so the lack of data from Beauvais makes no difference.

Air passenger traffic to/from East Asia in 2015:
- Paris airports: +7.0%
- London airports: +0.9%

Air passenger traffic to/from South-East Asia and Australia/NZ in 2015:
- Paris airports: +4.1%
- London airports: +2.6%

Air passenger traffic to/from the Indian subcontinent in 2015:
- Paris airports: +14.1%
- London airports: -5.7%

Air passenger traffic to/from Central Asia and the Caucasus in 2015:
- Paris airports: -5.8%
- London airports: -7.5%

Air passenger traffic to/from the Middle East (including Turkey) in 2015:
- Paris airports: +5.3%
- London airports: +4.4%

Air passenger traffic to/from Africa in 2015:
- Paris airports: +0.9% (sub-Saharan Africa should be more than +3%, whereas North Africa should be around -1%)
- London airports: -6.3% (sub-Saharan Africa: -4.5% ; North Africa: -8.6%)

To/from North America and the Caribbean/Guianas in 2015:
- Paris airports: +5.3% (North America should be more than +7.5%, whereas Caribbean/Guianas should be slightly less than +0.5%)
- London airports: +3.2% (North America: +2.7% ; Caribbean/Guianas: +8.5%)

To/from continental Latin America:
- London airports: +8.5%
- Paris airports: +1.2%

TOTAL all regions outside of Europe:
- Paris airports: +3.4%
- London airports: +1.6%
What about flights to Aus/NZ. Or, wait a minute...
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Interesting chart of traffic in Latam. Curious as to why Argentina has such modest traffic. Judging by regional airport numbers, domestic air travel must be very low compared to, say, Colombia. What gives?
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