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Old November 20th, 2016, 12:54 PM   #1761
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It added 2.4 million in 2013 and 3.7 in 2014. In 2015 it'll probably add another 3.5-3.8. It's feasible if we look at the demand, but does the airport have enough capacicty to grow another 10%?
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Old November 21st, 2016, 03:20 AM   #1762
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The big 5 airports in 2020 might end up being DBX, PEK, ATL, LAX, and PVG. It's also nice seeing YYZ back in the top 30 although it will likely fall short for the full 2016. Maybe it's the start of a long march back up the chart. Does anyone know what YYZ's highest ranking ever was? I tried to look it up but with no luck.
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Old November 21st, 2016, 10:07 AM   #1763
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The big 5 airports in 2020 might end up being DBX, PEK, ATL, LAX, and PVG. It's also nice seeing YYZ back in the top 30 although it will likely fall short for the full 2016. Maybe it's the start of a long march back up the chart. Does anyone know what YYZ's highest ranking ever was? I tried to look it up but with no luck.
I agree with ATL, LAX and PVG. However Beijing will have two airports at that time and the operations split between them, and DXB will be operating without FlyDubai (which Emirates might recover for sure). I think we should count Haneda, since Japan wants to increase international arrivals into the country by double and O'Hare after modernization program will become more accessible. It will be interesting battle anyway.

As for YYZ, the highest rank was achieved in 1980 and 1981 as 16th busiest airport.
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Old November 21st, 2016, 11:28 AM   #1764
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I agree with ATL, LAX and PVG. However Beijing will have two airports at that time and the operations split between them, and DXB will be operating without FlyDubai (which Emirates might recover for sure). I think we should count Haneda, since Japan wants to increase international arrivals into the country by double and O'Hare after modernization program will become more accessible. It will be interesting battle anyway.

As for YYZ, the highest rank was achieved in 1980 and 1981 as 16th busiest airport.
When Beijing's new airport opens will they move all international flights at once? Is FlyDubai leaving DBX, for sure? And thanks for the info on YYZ. I'd been trying to find out for about 2 years but I guess I should have just asked you.
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Old November 21st, 2016, 12:24 PM   #1765
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When Beijing's new airport opens will they move all international flights at once? Is FlyDubai leaving DBX, for sure? And thanks for the info on YYZ. I'd been trying to find out for about 2 years but I guess I should have just asked you.
I've heard SkyTeam (including China Southern and China Eastern) should be transferred to new airport.

About FlyDubai: http://gulfnews.com/business/aviatio...says-1.1826412

Here is detailed graph with the rank
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Old November 21st, 2016, 05:05 PM   #1766
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Thanks very much. I'd always considered Pearson to be a big airport but was surprised how far it had fallen when I checked a few years back. 2009-2011 represents an all time low relative to its peers. Heavy Canadian airport fees have stunted passenger growth while the later development of the civil aviation industry in east Asia contributed to Pearson's precipitous drop.

The Greater Golden Horseshoe has built a lot of momentum over the last 10 years, tourism numbers are growing at a healthy clip, and Pearson's great connections should help it morph into a big north American hub. It all bodes well for continued strong passenger growth. I expect Pearson to re-enter the top 20 but it will take till 2030 at the earliest.
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Old November 21st, 2016, 05:55 PM   #1767
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Passengers Milan metro area airports in the last five years.

* Malpensa (MXP)
2010_18.947.808
2011_19.303.131
2012_18.537.301
2013_17.955.075
2014_18.853.203
2015_18.582.043

* Linate (LIN)
2010_8.359.065
2011_9.128.522
2012_9.229.890
2013_9.034.373
2014_9.025.978
2015_9.689.635

* Orio Al Serio (BGY)
2010_7.677.224
2011_8.419.948
2012_8.890.720
2013_8.964.376
2014_8.774.256
2015_10.404.625

*TOTAL MILAN
2010_34.984.097
2011_36.851.601
2012_36.657.911
2013_35.953.824
2014_36.653.437
2015_38.676.303
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Old November 27th, 2016, 11:48 PM   #1768
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Beijing's skyrocketing figures took me unawares. This airport was supposed to be maxed out since it has already hit its planned operational capacity. However 8.696 million pax in a month means it could handle more than 100 million pax a year before Daxing opens.
Easily, passenger capacity is just about flow, sure the airport gets more congested in the departure hall and you get longer queue lines in the customs area but there is plenty of space for more planes to be handled.

Before the expansion London Heathrow with 2 runways and less than 200.000 sq meters of terminal area handled 70 million pax, Beijing has almost quadruple the terminal area of old Heathrow and one extra runway.

Beijing would theoretically max out at ~750.000 planes a year and with ~180pax/plane you get 135 million pax. Dubai is at 195 pax/plane and Hong Kong right now is at 170 pax/plane and growing.

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Old December 6th, 2016, 09:01 PM   #1769
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According to AMS itself, it is #2 of Europe in October:

LHR 6,50 mio passengers
AMS 5,79 mio
CDG 5,75 mio
FRA 5,70 mio

That is the first time AMS beats both CDG and FRA in 1 month.
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Old December 7th, 2016, 12:20 AM   #1770
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According to AMS itself, it is #2 of Europe in October:

LHR 6,50 mio passengers
AMS 5,79 mio
CDG 5,75 mio
FRA 5,70 mio

That is the first time AMS beats both CDG and FRA in 1 month.
Nice observation, but its not true. This already happend in June 2016

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Old December 13th, 2016, 02:38 PM   #1771
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November 2016

LHR

5.721 +2.5%

http://centreforaviation.com/members...-record-318230


CAN

5.1 +11.1%

http://centreforaviation.com/news/gu...ov-2016-624631

PEK

7.5 +6.6%

http://centreforaviation.com/news/be...ov-2016-624904
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Old December 13th, 2016, 02:38 PM   #1772
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Hi guys,

in the meantime of waiting for October statistics (as usually data are missing for NYC airports, Charlotte and Toronto) I want to show you graph of airports which has handled more than 50 million passengers. Not only handled but also currently handling, as MAD re-entered this rank in November 2016.

So in total we have 25 airports and below you can see everything in detailed graphical form.
I have also added potential newcomers in future month.

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Old December 13th, 2016, 08:06 PM   #1773
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Nice graph, bubbalo!

According to that data, it's interesting to see that since 2010 14 airports have entered this list for the first time (15 if we include Madrid re-entering) and only four of them are non-Asian airports (excluding Madrid, of course). This Asian dominance will probably continue as other Chinese and Indian airports will join this list. However, there are several European and North-American airports close enough to that number that eventually will reach 50 million in the next few years (LAS, SEA, YYZ, perhaps MIA and MEX after the new airport opens in four years).

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Old December 14th, 2016, 11:51 PM   #1774
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guys did you know DOH is having almost identical growing trajectory as once had DXB?
anyone wanna guess how long it will go like this?

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Old December 15th, 2016, 01:50 PM   #1775
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What happened with the statistics section at Schiphol airport's website? I cannot find it anymore.
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Old December 15th, 2016, 05:13 PM   #1776
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Old December 15th, 2016, 07:36 PM   #1777
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I think growth at DOH will accelerate even more soon because QR is expanding so quickly. Although it must be noted that DOH lacks services from foreign airlines. And also, EK's most significant growth came after 2009, plus FlyDubai also started operations around the same time. Both these factors are the main reasons for DXB's high growth in recent times.

As for the graph, I expect DOH to keep growing as long as QR continues to expand. Maybe continue the same trajectory as DXB for the next 5 years.
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Old December 16th, 2016, 09:28 PM   #1778
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What a mess, months not in order, and september is missing in both 2015 and 2016.

To do this there was no need to redesign the website.
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Old December 17th, 2016, 12:11 AM   #1779
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Sorry if I bother, but may I ask if someone has data on yearly passenger traffic at Haneda, LAX and SFO from 1970/75 to 1999?
I had been trying to search but the furthest back I was able to go was 1994 for LAX and failed to get any other earlier data....
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Old December 20th, 2016, 02:11 AM   #1780
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please bubbalo we need your top world airports chart...
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