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ChuckScraperMiami#1 · September 9th, 2006, 02:57 AM

Thanks for that Update Dave

, I was thinking it was not going to start, But Now I'm Convinced

, WOW

one of the Hotels could be 50 floors High, What a sight to see these two Hotel Towers on Watson Island in my dream of 2012 !!!

mileageman · September 15th, 2006, 12:03 AM

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/15489058.htm

Posted on Mon, Sep. 11, 2006

WATSON ISLAND
Mega-marina: Good for all or elitist toy?
County commissioners will vote on an application for Watson Island that could lead to the creation of a mega-yacht facility on the small island.
BY CHARLES RABIN AND CURTIS MORGAN
crabin@MiamiHerald.com

Picture it: shimmering European handcrafted yachts, hundreds of feet long, docked on Biscayne Bay. The wealthy being served drinks with little umbrellas. Children playing on oversized decks.

And the general public peering at it all from platforms perched well above the fabulous crowd. Security doors bar access to the docks below, which sit on the very public property of Watson Island -- at least, in part, because of 9/11, the developer says.

That's how it will be if Miami-Dade County commissioners on Tuesday approve developer Flagstone Island Gardens' request to dredge 16 acres of Biscayne Bay for the luxury marina.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...n/15496315.htm

Posted on Tue, Sep. 12, 2006

Keep promises made for Watson Island
OUR OPINION: COMMISSIONERS SHOULD TWEAK PROJECT FOR PUBLIC ACCESS

When Miami-Dade County commissioners today consider a developer's request to dredge 16 acres of Biscayne Bay for a megayacht marina, they should remember local governments' commitment to voters that public access to the area be retained. In 2000, voters said Yes to a ballot question that gave the go-ahead for the county and city of Miami to proceed with proposed projects for the long-neglected island.

ChuckScraperMiami#1 · October 25th, 2006, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mileageman

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/15489058.htm

Posted on Mon, Sep. 11, 2006

WATSON ISLAND
Mega-marina: Good for all or elitist toy?
County commissioners will vote on an application for Watson Island that could lead to the creation of a mega-yacht facility on the small island.
BY CHARLES RABIN AND CURTIS MORGAN
crabin@MiamiHerald.com

Picture it: shimmering European handcrafted yachts, hundreds of feet long, docked on Biscayne Bay. The wealthy being served drinks with little umbrellas. Children playing on oversized decks.

And the general public peering at it all from platforms perched well above the fabulous crowd. Security doors bar access to the docks below, which sit on the very public property of Watson Island -- at least, in part, because of 9/11, the developer says.

That's how it will be if Miami-Dade County commissioners on Tuesday approve developer Flagstone Island Gardens' request to dredge 16 acres of Biscayne Bay for the luxury marina.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...n/15496315.htm

Posted on Tue, Sep. 12, 2006

Keep promises made for Watson Island
OUR OPINION: COMMISSIONERS SHOULD TWEAK PROJECT FOR PUBLIC ACCESS

When Miami-Dade County commissioners today consider a developer's request to dredge 16 acres of Biscayne Bay for a megayacht marina, they should remember local governments' commitment to voters that public access to the area be retained. In 2000, voters said Yes to a ballot question that gave the go-ahead for the county and city of Miami to proceed with proposed projects for the long-neglected island.

Mileageman

or Dave

, RX

, any news on what happen at this important meetiing, I gotta know, please , This has got to start soon to be in my dreams of 2012.!!!

arch photographer · October 25th, 2006, 07:51 AM

why is 2012 always the year of your dreams?

mileageman · October 25th, 2006, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckScraperMiami#1

Mileageman

or Dave

, RX

, any news on what happen at this important meetiing, I gotta know, please , This has got to start soon to be in my dreams of 2012.!!!

The vote was delayed to November

DShoost88 · October 26th, 2006, 12:20 AM

According to the Mayans, December 23, 2012 is the day the world is supposed to end. So perhaps it's Chuckscraper's dream year because there won't be an opportunity for it to get better than that. (Of course the Mayans are gone, so what's there to worry about?)

mileageman · November 28th, 2006, 06:55 PM

Posted on Tue, Nov. 28, 2006

Dade Commission OK's dredging bay for mega-yacht basin
By CHARLES RABIN
crabin@MiamiHerald.com

Miami-Dade County commissioners today allowed for the dredging of Biscayne Bay adjacent to Watson Island, one of the lone hindrances to a long-awaited development there.

Commissioners voted unanimously to allow Flagstone Island Gardens to dredge adjacent to the link between Miami Beach and the mainland in order to build a mega-yacht boat basin.

The granting of the permit had been held up for months as some commissioners were concerned that changes made to the ambitious plan on the island -- which includes splashy hotels, a maritime museum, a retail district and a pair of 470-foot boat docks -- were too extensive.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/16115326.htm

arch photographer · November 28th, 2006, 07:37 PM

That is FANTASTIC news. By the time Island Gardens is up and running, Miami will be the most stunningly modern city in the states. With skyscrapers floating on water.

Rx727sfl2002 · November 29th, 2006, 04:45 AM

is the skyscrapers floating on water before or after the great flood of 2012?

besides we allready have floating skyscrapers the are called cruise ships.

mileageman · January 3rd, 2007, 08:22 PM

MIAMI, Jan. 3 /PRNewswire/ -- Flagstone Property Group is set to begin building Island Gardens, one of the largest waterfront developments in the world to be located on Watson Island.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070103/nyw083.html?.v=74

ChuckScraperMiami#1 · January 6th, 2007, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mileageman

MIAMI, Jan. 3 /PRNewswire/ -- Flagstone Property Group is set to begin building Island Gardens, one of the largest waterfront developments in the world to be located on Watson Island.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070103/nyw083.html?.v=74

Mileage Man

, My friend, THIS is Great news

!!!

I was out there last week, There was a Huge Tent ceremony out there on the site and the land is clearing NOW !!!,

ITS REAL

, and it will be UP and completed in my dreams of 2012

:cheers

P.S. In fact

, it will be opened just in time for the February, 2010 Super BOWL here in MIAMI

, again !!!

hello345 · January 29th, 2007, 06:45 AM

Anything new at the site?

dave8721 · February 21st, 2007, 07:48 PM

From this weeks Miami Today News:

http://www.miamitodaynews.com/news/070222/story6.shtml

Quote:

Groundbreaking slated for fall for Watson Island project

By Eric Kalis
After more than five years of planning and permitting, developer Flagstone Property Group is ready to break ground this year on its $575 million mixed-use project on Watson Island.
With all of the necessary permits from the City of Miami and Miami-Dade County, Flagstone CEO Mehmet Bayraktar said last week that construction of Island Gardens should begin in the fall. The project, which includes a pair of hotel towers supported by ground-floor retail and a 50-slip mega-yacht marina that would accommodate yachts of up to 450 feet long, is targeted for completion in 2010, Mr. Bayraktar said.
The development team began talking to potential retailers and restaurateurs last month but has not secured leases for the 221,000 square feet of retail space, Mr. Bayraktar said. The complex is to include a landscaped promenade flanked by outdoor European-style cafés, he said.
Miami commissioners granted Flagstone a 75-year lease in 2001. The Miami Beach developer received a major use special permit in 2004.
When Flagstone considered pursuing the project, Mr. Bayraktar said, he "envisioned places in the Mediterranean, little bays like St. Tropez or Monte Carlo. The island is a perfect spot to create a destination between Miami and Miami Beach."
Flagstone signed two high-end hotel operators for each tower in 2005. International luxury operator Shangri-La will run a 150-room, five-star hotel with a separate timeshare component. Eight shares will be sold for each of about 100 two- to four-bedroom timeshares.
Shangri-La "understands hospitality and has properties in Asia where it provides services to condominiums," Mr. Bayraktar said. "The typical fractional buyers come to Miami so regularly, they hate to stay in a hotel because they have extended visits. They do not want to own a condo or house because of the hassle involved."
The other hotel tower will be operated by Westin, a luxury flag with experience hosting conventions and corporate events, Mr. Bayraktar said. The 350-room tower will include enough ballroom space to accommodate 1,100 diners or more than 2,000 for a reception, he said.
"The Westin was the perfect brand because it has a solid client base of Fortune 500 companies," Mr. Bayraktar said. "The ballroom space will be one of the biggest available in Miami."
Watson Island's proximity to downtown Miami and Miami Beach coupled with the marina indicates both hotel operators will have success, said Guy Trusty, president of Lodging and Hospitality Realty in Coral Gables.
"This is a great location for a high-end hospitality product," Mr. Trusty said. "People who can afford mega-yachts will be able to afford staying in the hotels. Watson Island is a great tourist place that is never used."
Details: www.flagstonegroup.com.

mileageman · August 29th, 2007, 03:53 AM

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theDirector · August 29th, 2007, 05:00 AM

we can only hope

trickykid · August 29th, 2007, 06:43 AM

I think im the only one against this project on these forums. Not so much the design, but really the location. Too me its just sad that the view from under the MacArthur causeway bridge will be lost when all these boats and buildings are in the way. It seems too ambitious a project for my taste and will probably cater mostly to the fabuously rich. Maybe itll turn out great though, who knows? Don't mean to be so pessimistic here...

southfloridamiamian · August 29th, 2007, 06:52 AM

i think watching mega yachts and a 500 foot skyscraper will be a great view in itself and it will be a great add to the skyline

305Lover · August 29th, 2007, 03:41 PM

trickykid does have a point in something, these towers will take away from that great view that the four towers currently have. But I still love the project.

Roark · August 31st, 2007, 07:08 AM

Yeah...right now, there are a lot of poor people fishing for their dinner on that seawall. I was there on Saturday.
That would be replaced with a lot of rich people buying fuel, hiring mechanics, captains, waiters, painters, etc. for their 150 ft yachts.

Personally, I'm more inspired to greatness by skyscrapers and megayachts. Hopefully, those people fishing for their food are too...then they may get a nice job, buy their children better fish and even send them to college.

I like the view of economic development.

MIAMI MAN · August 31st, 2007, 07:38 PM

This project will do nothing but generate money, and make Miami an even more desirable vacation spot for the rich and famous, I can see it now, Diddy's yacht docked right next to Usher's super yacht, This project is a money machine!

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September 9th, 2006, 02:57 AM	#61
ChuckScraperMiami#1 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: MIAMI Posts: 3,265 Likes (Received): 2	Thanks for that Update Dave , I was thinking it was not going to start, But Now I'm Convinced , WOW one of the Hotels could be 50 floors High, What a sight to see these two Hotel Towers on Watson Island in my dream of 2012 !!!

September 15th, 2006, 12:03 AM	#62
mileageman Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 897 Likes (Received): 0	http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/15489058.htm Posted on Mon, Sep. 11, 2006 WATSON ISLAND Mega-marina: Good for all or elitist toy? County commissioners will vote on an application for Watson Island that could lead to the creation of a mega-yacht facility on the small island. BY CHARLES RABIN AND CURTIS MORGAN crabin@MiamiHerald.com Picture it: shimmering European handcrafted yachts, hundreds of feet long, docked on Biscayne Bay. The wealthy being served drinks with little umbrellas. Children playing on oversized decks. And the general public peering at it all from platforms perched well above the fabulous crowd. Security doors bar access to the docks below, which sit on the very public property of Watson Island -- at least, in part, because of 9/11, the developer says. That's how it will be if Miami-Dade County commissioners on Tuesday approve developer Flagstone Island Gardens' request to dredge 16 acres of Biscayne Bay for the luxury marina. http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...n/15496315.htm Posted on Tue, Sep. 12, 2006 Keep promises made for Watson Island OUR OPINION: COMMISSIONERS SHOULD TWEAK PROJECT FOR PUBLIC ACCESS When Miami-Dade County commissioners today consider a developer's request to dredge 16 acres of Biscayne Bay for a megayacht marina, they should remember local governments' commitment to voters that public access to the area be retained. In 2000, voters said Yes to a ballot question that gave the go-ahead for the county and city of Miami to proceed with proposed projects for the long-neglected island.

October 26th, 2006, 12:20 AM	#66
DShoost88 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Boca Raton/Boston Posts: 1,037 Likes (Received): 4	According to the Mayans, December 23, 2012 is the day the world is supposed to end. So perhaps it's Chuckscraper's dream year because there won't be an opportunity for it to get better than that. (Of course the Mayans are gone, so what's there to worry about?)

November 28th, 2006, 06:55 PM	#67
mileageman Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 897 Likes (Received): 0	Posted on Tue, Nov. 28, 2006 Dade Commission OK's dredging bay for mega-yacht basin By CHARLES RABIN crabin@MiamiHerald.com Miami-Dade County commissioners today allowed for the dredging of Biscayne Bay adjacent to Watson Island, one of the lone hindrances to a long-awaited development there. Commissioners voted unanimously to allow Flagstone Island Gardens to dredge adjacent to the link between Miami Beach and the mainland in order to build a mega-yacht boat basin. The granting of the permit had been held up for months as some commissioners were concerned that changes made to the ambitious plan on the island -- which includes splashy hotels, a maritime museum, a retail district and a pair of 470-foot boat docks -- were too extensive. http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/16115326.htm

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Rx727sfl2002 BANNED Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: MIAMI Posts: 1,304 Likes (Received): 0	is the skyscrapers floating on water before or after the great flood of 2012? besides we allready have floating skyscrapers the are called cruise ships.

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mileageman Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 897 Likes (Received): 0	MIAMI, Jan. 3 /PRNewswire/ -- Flagstone Property Group is set to begin building Island Gardens, one of the largest waterfront developments in the world to be located on Watson Island. http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070103/nyw083.html?.v=74

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hello345 Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 366 Likes (Received): 0	Anything new at the site?

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trickykid registered snoozer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: pgh and mia Posts: 256 Likes (Received): 0	I think im the only one against this project on these forums. Not so much the design, but really the location. Too me its just sad that the view from under the MacArthur causeway bridge will be lost when all these boats and buildings are in the way. It seems too ambitious a project for my taste and will probably cater mostly to the fabuously rich. Maybe itll turn out great though, who knows? Don't mean to be so pessimistic here...

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305Lover Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Miami Posts: 935 Likes (Received): 1	trickykid does have a point in something, these towers will take away from that great view that the four towers currently have. But I still love the project.

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Roark BANNED Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,917 Likes (Received): 0	Yeah...right now, there are a lot of poor people fishing for their dinner on that seawall. I was there on Saturday. That would be replaced with a lot of rich people buying fuel, hiring mechanics, captains, waiters, painters, etc. for their 150 ft yachts. Personally, I'm more inspired to greatness by skyscrapers and megayachts. Hopefully, those people fishing for their food are too...then they may get a nice job, buy their children better fish and even send them to college. I like the view of economic development.