Sim City 5...finally

BuffCity · September 29th, 2005, 06:42 PM

Will Wright, now legendary creator of SimCity, The Sims and the like, talks about his revelation in the world of game play, game interactivity and a new approach to gaming. And he shows this revolutionary idea of an intelligent code through his idea dubbed “Spore”.

http://www.gamespy.com/articles/595/595975p1.html

He talks about how code can be manipulated that it can become smarter, smaller, more concise and basically “intelligent”, so that developers can fit an entire 3D game into just 64k. He talks about how he had adapted this new 'intelligent code' into his game experiment “Spore” where for the first time, there is no need for animators, artists or code experts as the game’s code works out how an object/life develops and moves, conforming to your specifications. For example, if you were to give a creature 3 legs, the computer would work out how the animal would move. This revelation in gaming really quite amazing and is set to change the face of interactive game play. With Spore, it's not just the introduction of a new game based on evolution; it is a new game, using an intelligent code, a game that thinks for itself, a game that is not a game, but an art. If it is even meant as a game for release at all! With word of a web-site being set up for Spore, I believe now that the game may be set for release towards the end of this year of the beginning of the next.

Looking at the first screenshots of Spore as a preliminary working creation, it is not at first obvious that the game is a Maxis creation; Maxis has gained a reputation for detailed, lifelike and exciting game play. In SimCity 4, we have become accustom to running a detailed, working city in pleasing detail. I believe it is godly control over a detailed and lifelike canvas that really captivates us as game players and has gained Maxis its name. With the introduction of The Sims 2 to the equation, the most detailed life simulator ever made, with some scarily lifelike interactions and objects, maxis has captivated us once again. But with Spore, the cartoon and detail-free environment combined with the slowness of the plot; not many people will want to spend a couple of hours behind the wheel of a pool of goo. This is one of the reasons why I do not believe that Spore is a game intended for release as I do not believe it will catch on, it is simply too ‘out there’ for the general public. However, I do believe that Will Wright has hit upon something of an untapped treasure; something they maybe tapping right now, behind the scenes at Maxis.

I was thinking, what way could SimCity go next? And ‘what the hell’ are they doing that is so important to leave the web-site abandoned from fresh news. Then I thought about Spore, the new intelligent code, and rumors of SimCity 5. The only way that SimCity could go now is to adopt this new intelligent code…

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=55632

The link above says that a sequel to SimCity 4 is definitely in development, but we cannot confirm any screenshots for a while. It also talked about how Will Wright commented on how complicated the game was for new users. I’m guessing he would want to collect brand new gamers to join the Maxis bandwagon and also please existing maxis fans. The only way to gain these new players, keep Maxis’ developed reputation for detailed gaming and go the ‘right way’ into the future is to adapt this new intelligent code into the SimCity franchise.

A member of the Maxis team talked about how SimCity 5 would go back to its roots and become much simpler (This was in an internet chat about The Sims 2 a while ago). Using this new 'intelligent code', SimCity 5 would be able to think for itself, saving a lot of work on animation, building design, moving objects, infrastructure, etc. And would mean that the game would not only become simpler in playing, it would become simpler. The adoption of this new code would mean that SimCity 5 would be more of an individually functioning 4 Dimensional game of development, time, change, war, disaster, bridging water & gorge, towers & skyscrapers, business, money, taxation, housing transport, infrastructure and more, that they would then unleash on us to create masterpieces.

We would build cities with a much higher level of detail, it is possible that you would loose the square grid, be able to build roads in natural curves, build a bridge as high or a tunnel as low as you want, gain a higher knowledge of the populous of your city. Also, this brings a new level of power, a new level of responsibility, when it comes to running an intelligent city...

I think you’ll agree, the whole prospect of how this new code could change SimCity is a very inspiring and just plain amazing. I certainly hope this is the way SimCity goes into the future. According to Will Wright's view on the direction of game play and the unveiling of his new code, it certainly sounds very likely that he will adapt this into new games coming soon from Maxis. Unfortunately, The Sims 2 was too early for this new code and has not benefited from it, maybe we shall see some integration soon with the Sims 2 in future expansion packs. The Sims 2 is likely to be the last game from Maxis that has been designed and built in the old fashioned way. Future games from Maxis are set to be bigger, better, faster and smarter than ever. Maxis has its finger on the right button, it’s just when they are going to press it which is the problem…
It's all gone very quiet over at the main SimCity.com website which is very unusual for such a big game. Could this mean that SimCity 5 could be announced soon?
My guess is yes because they haven't updated the website since last year and there has been no announcement about another expansion pack. Just look at the Sims 2 where they decided to tell us about the next expansion pack by putting a flyer in with the University expansion pack.

EA wouldn't let a successful franchise like this drop.... so keep checking back here over the next couple of weeks as we bring you more news/rumours of the next installment of SimCity 5!

***finally!

Boris550 · September 29th, 2005, 06:53 PM

VERY, VERY COOL!

This is really positive news. We might be finally getting the 3D cities we've wanted for years.

This also gives me some reassurance that my system will be able to handle SC5 and I won't have to upgrade again, since the coding is going to be better. Let's just hope we don't have to go through those "patch wars" again like we did up to the summer of 2003...

Muyangguniang · September 29th, 2005, 07:14 PM

FINALEMENT!!!
EINDELIJK!!!

BuffCity · September 29th, 2005, 08:25 PM

I don't know about you all, but I sense a release by christmas to be honest.

Just a matter of keep our eyes and ears open for news on the release.

Jaimzz..(NL) · September 29th, 2005, 08:28 PM

Great news!!!!
just in case, i think this game will also rock

http://www.clubic.com/actualite-2146...e-precise.html
also check out this thread:
http://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/v...?topicID=64760

Jaimzz..(NL) · September 29th, 2005, 08:29 PM

sry double post..

BuffCity · September 29th, 2005, 08:45 PM

if this game is gonna be the way I think it will...we are all gonna be in shock and the game will certainly take off like a rocket.

I expect something like GTA, but perhaps more detailed and with more economic detail than we are used to...from there we are gonna see the city in 3D and at street level, perhaps many other types of views

City Life might be in trouble here!

usman · September 29th, 2005, 10:10 PM

Hello I'm new here and this is my first post. 'Buffcity' said that we might see a christmas release this year. I seriously doubt they will release the game this early. And also when a game with popularity such as Simcity we get to hear about it months before it is released. And also Maxis will release Spore next year and I think Simcity will follow after that. These are just my thought. Unless someone has insider info then who knows they might be right about the early release?

Æsahættr · September 29th, 2005, 10:28 PM

old news...

I heard about this like a year ago!

BuffCity · September 29th, 2005, 10:43 PM

no you didn't.

london-b · September 29th, 2005, 10:51 PM

Great news!!!

Æsahættr · September 29th, 2005, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuffCity

no you didn't.

lol well maybe it wasn't a year but it was quite some time ago as I was looking for Sim City 5 last christmas so I was reasearching articles.

BuffCity · September 30th, 2005, 03:44 PM

Well at some point the market will forget the Sim City so they need to get moving on a release. So many people have been screwed over by SC4 due to it's need for Processor and graphics...it does not suprise me that the game did not do as well as 2000 or 3000.

For those of us who can play SC4, we seem to enjoy it...but there are certainly better ways to play an urban planning game.

eklips · September 30th, 2005, 04:14 PM

Don't be too entusiastic for this spore thing, if you listened to every game companies, every game that hits the shelves would be a revolution, maybe this spore thing is just a marketing rip-off

cwilson758 · September 30th, 2005, 04:29 PM

You know, I like SC4, but it certainly was a let-down. I played 3000 up until SC4 was released...I hardly play it now. I really hope that SC5 comes out and comes out soon...and that it is better!

BuffCity · September 30th, 2005, 05:12 PM

Virtual...please explain...

btw, your quote is kinda funny, did you know the USA is a Republic and not a Democracy? so I guess we are heading for an Empire...cool. lol

The PhantoM · September 30th, 2005, 05:31 PM

damn, just for a moment i really thought you were gonna give us some news on sc5. But this news is already a year old or so..

BuffCity · September 30th, 2005, 06:07 PM

damn...well lets pretend its new

radekmysza · September 30th, 2005, 06:45 PM

For me its news, great news

Third of a kind · September 30th, 2005, 06:49 PM

it sounds very lovely, but I'm just worried about how much ram it will take up? what kind of processor will we need for it..because when my cities get to be too large in SC4 my comp really starts to slow down in the game

September 29th, 2005, 06:42 PM	#1
BuffCity I make Buffalo look good! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: BUFFALO Posts: 6,617 Likes (Received): 0	Sim City 5...finally Will Wright, now legendary creator of SimCity, The Sims and the like, talks about his revelation in the world of game play, game interactivity and a new approach to gaming. And he shows this revolutionary idea of an intelligent code through his idea dubbed “Spore”. http://www.gamespy.com/articles/595/595975p1.html He talks about how code can be manipulated that it can become smarter, smaller, more concise and basically “intelligent”, so that developers can fit an entire 3D game into just 64k. He talks about how he had adapted this new 'intelligent code' into his game experiment “Spore” where for the first time, there is no need for animators, artists or code experts as the game’s code works out how an object/life develops and moves, conforming to your specifications. For example, if you were to give a creature 3 legs, the computer would work out how the animal would move. This revelation in gaming really quite amazing and is set to change the face of interactive game play. With Spore, it's not just the introduction of a new game based on evolution; it is a new game, using an intelligent code, a game that thinks for itself, a game that is not a game, but an art. If it is even meant as a game for release at all! With word of a web-site being set up for Spore, I believe now that the game may be set for release towards the end of this year of the beginning of the next. Looking at the first screenshots of Spore as a preliminary working creation, it is not at first obvious that the game is a Maxis creation; Maxis has gained a reputation for detailed, lifelike and exciting game play. In SimCity 4, we have become accustom to running a detailed, working city in pleasing detail. I believe it is godly control over a detailed and lifelike canvas that really captivates us as game players and has gained Maxis its name. With the introduction of The Sims 2 to the equation, the most detailed life simulator ever made, with some scarily lifelike interactions and objects, maxis has captivated us once again. But with Spore, the cartoon and detail-free environment combined with the slowness of the plot; not many people will want to spend a couple of hours behind the wheel of a pool of goo. This is one of the reasons why I do not believe that Spore is a game intended for release as I do not believe it will catch on, it is simply too ‘out there’ for the general public. However, I do believe that Will Wright has hit upon something of an untapped treasure; something they maybe tapping right now, behind the scenes at Maxis. I was thinking, what way could SimCity go next? And ‘what the hell’ are they doing that is so important to leave the web-site abandoned from fresh news. Then I thought about Spore, the new intelligent code, and rumors of SimCity 5. The only way that SimCity could go now is to adopt this new intelligent code… http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=55632 The link above says that a sequel to SimCity 4 is definitely in development, but we cannot confirm any screenshots for a while. It also talked about how Will Wright commented on how complicated the game was for new users. I’m guessing he would want to collect brand new gamers to join the Maxis bandwagon and also please existing maxis fans. The only way to gain these new players, keep Maxis’ developed reputation for detailed gaming and go the ‘right way’ into the future is to adapt this new intelligent code into the SimCity franchise. A member of the Maxis team talked about how SimCity 5 would go back to its roots and become much simpler (This was in an internet chat about The Sims 2 a while ago). Using this new 'intelligent code', SimCity 5 would be able to think for itself, saving a lot of work on animation, building design, moving objects, infrastructure, etc. And would mean that the game would not only become simpler in playing, it would become simpler. The adoption of this new code would mean that SimCity 5 would be more of an individually functioning 4 Dimensional game of development, time, change, war, disaster, bridging water & gorge, towers & skyscrapers, business, money, taxation, housing transport, infrastructure and more, that they would then unleash on us to create masterpieces. We would build cities with a much higher level of detail, it is possible that you would loose the square grid, be able to build roads in natural curves, build a bridge as high or a tunnel as low as you want, gain a higher knowledge of the populous of your city. Also, this brings a new level of power, a new level of responsibility, when it comes to running an intelligent city... I think you’ll agree, the whole prospect of how this new code could change SimCity is a very inspiring and just plain amazing. I certainly hope this is the way SimCity goes into the future. According to Will Wright's view on the direction of game play and the unveiling of his new code, it certainly sounds very likely that he will adapt this into new games coming soon from Maxis. Unfortunately, The Sims 2 was too early for this new code and has not benefited from it, maybe we shall see some integration soon with the Sims 2 in future expansion packs. The Sims 2 is likely to be the last game from Maxis that has been designed and built in the old fashioned way. Future games from Maxis are set to be bigger, better, faster and smarter than ever. Maxis has its finger on the right button, it’s just when they are going to press it which is the problem… It's all gone very quiet over at the main SimCity.com website which is very unusual for such a big game. Could this mean that SimCity 5 could be announced soon? My guess is yes because they haven't updated the website since last year and there has been no announcement about another expansion pack. Just look at the Sims 2 where they decided to tell us about the next expansion pack by putting a flyer in with the University expansion pack. EA wouldn't let a successful franchise like this drop.... so keep checking back here over the next couple of weeks as we bring you more news/rumours of the next installment of SimCity 5! ***finally! __________________ Urban Photo Collection

September 29th, 2005, 06:53 PM	#2
Boris550 NIMBY Eater Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Calgary Posts: 879 Likes (Received): 0	VERY, VERY COOL! This is really positive news. We might be finally getting the 3D cities we've wanted for years. This also gives me some reassurance that my system will be able to handle SC5 and I won't have to upgrade again, since the coding is going to be better. Let's just hope we don't have to go through those "patch wars" again like we did up to the summer of 2003... __________________ Member of the Calgary Urban Initiative www.calgaryurban.com Green Voter http://www.greenparty.ca/

September 29th, 2005, 07:14 PM	#3
Muyangguniang T H E H A G U E Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Leidschendam - Paris - Jakarta Posts: 2,444 Likes (Received): 0	FINALEMENT!!! EINDELIJK!!! __________________ Hiduplah Den Haag Raya!

September 29th, 2005, 08:25 PM	#4
BuffCity I make Buffalo look good! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: BUFFALO Posts: 6,617 Likes (Received): 0	I don't know about you all, but I sense a release by christmas to be honest. Just a matter of keep our eyes and ears open for news on the release. __________________ Urban Photo Collection

September 29th, 2005, 08:28 PM	#5
Jaimzz..(NL) Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Utrecht Posts: 53 Likes (Received): 0	Great news!!!! just in case, i think this game will also rock http://www.clubic.com/actualite-2146...e-precise.html also check out this thread: http://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/v...?topicID=64760 Last edited by Jaimzz..(NL); September 29th, 2005 at 08:33 PM.

September 29th, 2005, 08:29 PM	#6
Jaimzz..(NL) Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Utrecht Posts: 53 Likes (Received): 0	sry double post..

September 29th, 2005, 08:45 PM	#7
BuffCity I make Buffalo look good! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: BUFFALO Posts: 6,617 Likes (Received): 0	if this game is gonna be the way I think it will...we are all gonna be in shock and the game will certainly take off like a rocket. I expect something like GTA, but perhaps more detailed and with more economic detail than we are used to...from there we are gonna see the city in 3D and at street level, perhaps many other types of views City Life might be in trouble here! __________________ Urban Photo Collection

September 29th, 2005, 10:10 PM	#8
usman Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 5 Likes (Received): 0	Hello I'm new here and this is my first post. 'Buffcity' said that we might see a christmas release this year. I seriously doubt they will release the game this early. And also when a game with popularity such as Simcity we get to hear about it months before it is released. And also Maxis will release Spore next year and I think Simcity will follow after that. These are just my thought. Unless someone has insider info then who knows they might be right about the early release?

September 29th, 2005, 10:28 PM	#9
Æsahættr Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Minneapolis / Pittsburgh (Uni) Posts: 2,972 Likes (Received): 0	old news... I heard about this like a year ago! __________________ > flickr >> Minneapolis \| Manila \| Cebu

September 29th, 2005, 10:43 PM	#10
BuffCity I make Buffalo look good! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: BUFFALO Posts: 6,617 Likes (Received): 0	no you didn't. __________________ Urban Photo Collection

September 29th, 2005, 10:51 PM	#11
london-b βAŇŇĘÐ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ma chambre Posts: 7,545 Likes (Received): 163	Great news!!!

September 30th, 2005, 03:44 PM	#13
BuffCity I make Buffalo look good! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: BUFFALO Posts: 6,617 Likes (Received): 0	Well at some point the market will forget the Sim City so they need to get moving on a release. So many people have been screwed over by SC4 due to it's need for Processor and graphics...it does not suprise me that the game did not do as well as 2000 or 3000. For those of us who can play SC4, we seem to enjoy it...but there are certainly better ways to play an urban planning game. __________________ Urban Photo Collection

September 30th, 2005, 04:14 PM	#14
eklips Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Paris Posts: 6,247 Likes (Received): 300	Don't be too entusiastic for this spore thing, if you listened to every game companies, every game that hits the shelves would be a revolution, maybe this spore thing is just a marketing rip-off __________________ Madrid

September 30th, 2005, 04:29 PM	#15
cwilson758 Cory Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Cleveland via Indianapolis Posts: 3,411 Likes (Received): 3	You know, I like SC4, but it certainly was a let-down. I played 3000 up until SC4 was released...I hardly play it now. I really hope that SC5 comes out and comes out soon...and that it is better!

September 30th, 2005, 05:12 PM	#16
BuffCity I make Buffalo look good! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: BUFFALO Posts: 6,617 Likes (Received): 0	Virtual...please explain... btw, your quote is kinda funny, did you know the USA is a Republic and not a Democracy? so I guess we are heading for an Empire...cool. lol __________________ Urban Photo Collection

September 30th, 2005, 05:31 PM	#17
The PhantoM I Love NYC Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: AMSTERDAM Posts: 254 Likes (Received): 0	damn, just for a moment i really thought you were gonna give us some news on sc5. But this news is already a year old or so.. __________________ IN URBANITY WE TRUST

September 30th, 2005, 06:07 PM	#18
BuffCity I make Buffalo look good! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: BUFFALO Posts: 6,617 Likes (Received): 0	damn...well lets pretend its new __________________ Urban Photo Collection

September 30th, 2005, 06:45 PM	#19
radekmysza Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Kołobrzeg Posts: 1,394 Likes (Received): 0	For me its news, great news

September 30th, 2005, 06:49 PM	#20
Third of a kind metrocard millionaire Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,277 Likes (Received): 1	it sounds very lovely, but I'm just worried about how much ram it will take up? what kind of processor will we need for it..because when my cities get to be too large in SC4 my comp really starts to slow down in the game

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