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Old August 26th, 2007, 06:49 AM   #201
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big-dog, that's very sweet. did you buy one?
I may put a bid if they put them on ebay. Adding a piece of land I'll have a full house
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Old August 26th, 2007, 06:56 AM   #202
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Looks great. WHy is there a line 13, when the ones after 1 & 2 aren't yet built?
Line numbers are determined by the Beijing civil planing department. They decided to build Line 13 first based on the traffic urgency.

Most other lines will be finished in 5 years.
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Old August 26th, 2007, 09:30 AM   #203
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I may put a bid if they put them on ebay. Adding a piece of land I'll have a full house
Good idea, I am going back to China soon, maybe I can help you to make that happen
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Old August 26th, 2007, 12:26 PM   #204
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Lovely stations!
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Old August 27th, 2007, 01:09 AM   #205
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So you're telling me all that oh-so-exciting cladding is from the 70s?

And most new metros in China look the same anyway.
The claddings are new, but what's behind the cladding is very old. Which is why the designs of these new stations are so limited, and uniform.

There are more lines under Beijing that are for government and military uses and are not open to public. There is another station under the current XiZhiMen station that's been lying there for decades without any public usage, but that's going to change soon as Line 4 completes construction.

And Big-Dog, no I can't provide you with more information on Beijing's Line 5 original construction. All I could tell you that the recent "construction" is more of a update, than a build. Maybe someone else who's more knowladgeable than I am could fill you in on more.

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Looks great. WHy is there a line 13, when the ones after 1 & 2 aren't yet built?
Same thing as what I've mentioned above. All subway lines in Beijing are planed a long time ago, and some were built for government/military purposes that are not open to public. And yes, lines 1 and 2 are certainlly built and opened to public, line 4 has started construction and line 5 has recently been completed.
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Old August 28th, 2007, 02:13 PM   #206
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A recent news saying that Beijing put 41 old subway train cars on bid, starting from 50k RMB ($7000), they were built and put in service in 1973.
http://web.xwwb.com/wbnews.php?db=2&thisid=103985



I think it's a good idea, they can be used for bars, small restaurant, beach ice cream stand, forest camping base, hawker food etc.
If that photo is correct, the cars up for sale were built in China for the Pyongyang metro and sold in 1998 to Beijing, where they were used on line 13. Apart from the front end styling, they're apparently very similar to the first Beijing metro trains and were made by the same factory.
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Old September 12th, 2007, 01:32 PM   #207
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Beijing Line 5 will be opened at the end of September!
















































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Old September 12th, 2007, 01:37 PM   #208
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Please check this related thread, pal.
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Old September 15th, 2007, 05:00 AM   #209
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Beijing Airport Express Railway

Beijing Capital International Airport Link's ART MK II Vehicles Debut in Changchun





On Sep. 7, the first train, which comprises 4 ART (Advanced Rapid Transit) MK II vehicles, that is to be used for Beijing Capital International Airport Link connecting Dongzhimen Station to the Beijing Capital International Airport using Bombardier's ART technology made its debut in Changchun.

In March 2006, Bombardier received an order from Changchun Railway Vehicles (CRC) as part of a contract awarded to CRC by the Beijing Dongzhimen Airport Express Rail Co. Ltd. for the supply of 40 ART MK II vehicles for the Beijing Capital International Airport Link.

It is known that Bombardier participates in project management and is responsible for vehicle systems engineering and integration, design and manufacture of the bogies as well as the propulsion and braking systems while Changchun Railway Vehicles (CRC) manufactures the 40 ART MK II vehicles.

Once fully operational, the airport link will serve four different stations: Dongzhimen, Sanyuanqiao, Beijing Capital International Airport's Terminal 2 and Terminal 3. Passengers will be able to interchange trains conveniently at the Dongzhimen and Sanyuanqiao Stations, where connections to the 2008 Olympic village will be available.

In addition, a special lounge at the Dongzhimen Station will allow passengers to initiate flight-boarding procedures before arriving at the airport as well.
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Old September 15th, 2007, 05:25 AM   #210
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I've seen some places (e.g., http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/bizchin...nt_6000167.htm) that it'll open on September 20... anybody have verifiable info which date is more accurate?

Personally, I'm waiting for Line 4, since there'll be a station five minutes away from where I live... but I know that's not coming for quite some time. Sigh.
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Old September 15th, 2007, 11:31 AM   #211
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The exterior of the train is nice. The interior though...not so much.

Looks like it's from the 1970's.
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Old September 15th, 2007, 04:26 PM   #212
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^ I thought it was quite nice. I guess its the color, we will know how it really looks like once pics become more available.
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Old September 15th, 2007, 04:38 PM   #213
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Also (sorry to double-post), though it looks from the pictures like Line 5 itself is almost ready, I'm not sure the rest of the lines are! None of the system maps in any station I've seen include it, nor do maps in the subway cars themselves. Furthermore, I was at Yonghegong station to day (the northern Line 5/Line 2 transfer station), and I didn't see any way that passengers will be able to get from the existing platform to the Line 5 platform. Outside the station, I did see one blocked-off entrance with the Line 5 (as well as Line 2) starting and ending times listed, but that was it. If this line is going to open by the end of the month, hopefully they'll get on this soon!
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Old September 15th, 2007, 07:00 PM   #214
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What's the top speed of the ART|| vehicles?
It seems that the track used to display this vehicle is powered by both the propietry ART third track in the middle and by overhead power; will the airport route share tracks with other existing services?
Has the sharing of routes been done before by a ART and non ART services before anywhere in the world?
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Old September 15th, 2007, 08:32 PM   #215
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What's the top speed of the ART|| vehicles?
It seems that the track used to display this vehicle is powered by both the propietry ART third track in the middle and by overhead power; will the airport route share tracks with other existing services?
Has the sharing of routes been done before by a ART and non ART services before anywhere in the world?
Vancouver's metro uses the same ART Mark II cars and has a maximum design speed of 90 km/h.

Regarding sharing of routes between ART and non-ART, no.



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Old September 16th, 2007, 04:29 AM   #216
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90km/h is kinda slow
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Old September 16th, 2007, 07:11 PM   #217
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It doesn't need to be "that" fast, as the airport isn't really that far away from the city center. It should be cheap, however, at least more so than taking one of the cabs from those blood-thirsty taxi drivers at Beijing Airport.
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Old September 17th, 2007, 07:53 AM   #218
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90km/h is kind of slow.
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Old September 17th, 2007, 08:39 AM   #219
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Finally, a good-looking paint job on a Chinese train. Come on now, let's get the rest of the trains out of those Soviet-era paint jobs.
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Old September 18th, 2007, 04:21 AM   #220
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More photos of this train thanks to bigdog:







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