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Old December 19th, 2012, 06:59 PM   #1041
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That's the official report,besides,Beijing has more lines currently under construction than Shanghai's.
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Old December 20th, 2012, 12:28 AM   #1042
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Well its still anyone's game in 2012 but by mid-2013 chances are its beijing but its still a close race.

http://www.exploremetro.com/blog/sub...r-metro-system
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Old December 20th, 2012, 12:50 AM   #1043
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Impressive! Some stations look really nice
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Old December 20th, 2012, 12:51 AM   #1044
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That's the official report,besides,Beijing has more lines currently under construction than Shanghai's.
Lines U/C that doesn't mean anything in large subway systems. Shanghai has more lines than Beijing (batong-1, fangsheng-9 etc i count as one line cause they effectively are one line); much of Shanghai activity is concentrated in line extensions as opposed to new lines. What you need to look at is absolute line length. Of course beijing's U/C length value seems higher (i think?). But at the end of the day its still anyone's game in 2012 even by mid-2013 chances are its still a close race. The game changer is shanghai metro line 16 opening next year @ 59km long. Being China once the new lines open a whole new round of groundbreaking will follow. I wouldn't count on anything right now.

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Old December 20th, 2012, 07:16 PM   #1045
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Lines U/C that doesn't mean anything in large subway systems. Shanghai has more lines than Beijing (batong-1, fangsheng-9 etc i count as one line cause they effectively are one line); much of Shanghai activity is concentrated in line extensions as opposed to new lines. What you need to look at is absolute line length. Of course beijing's U/C length value seems higher (i think?). But at the end of the day its still anyone's game in 2012 even by mid-2013 chances are its still a close race. The game changer is shanghai metro line 16 opening next year @ 59km long. Being China once the new lines open a whole new round of groundbreaking will follow. I wouldn't count on anything right now.

http://www.exploremetro.com/blog/sub...r-metro-system
Shanghai's line 22 is already open and not counted in the length calculation. Therefore, there is a good chance that line 16 won't be counted either.
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Old December 20th, 2012, 07:41 PM   #1046
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Thanks for those updated info. Post more photos please
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Old December 21st, 2012, 05:43 AM   #1047
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Shanghai's line 22 is already open and not counted in the length calculation. Therefore, there is a good chance that line 16 won't be counted either.
line 16 has a good chance of counting. It uses 3rd rail power and is fully grade separated and self contained. Line 22 is blatantly commuter rail with mixed traffic operation and mainline rolling stock. If anything line 16 is like BART; the only thing that i think would disqualify it as a metro line is that it has huge stop spacing (like 5km).
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Old December 22nd, 2012, 02:02 PM   #1048
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And since 26th of December, Beijing West shall be served by Longhua-Beijing high speed railway. How convenient shall Line 9, as of 30th, be to reach Beijing West station from all places around Beijing?
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Old December 23rd, 2012, 12:23 AM   #1049
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For starters its finally connected to the network. It will have transfers to 1, 4, 6, 10 and fangshan.
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Old December 23rd, 2012, 01:57 PM   #1050
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Based on Beijing West and Being South today it will be far better than the alternatives. The traffic situation around Beijing West is a mess. Driving, taking a bus or a taxi is singularly unattractive. The HSR system moves a frighteningly high number of passengers around. I have taken taxi a couple times from Beijing South, and the taxi queues are the longest I have seen in my life, even with two rows of continuously arriving taxies they are also among the slowest. You can spend longer waiting in line than it took you to travel from Tianjin in the first place.

The metro system is somewhat overwhelmed too, but at least it can handle it, 2-3 metro trains seem enough to take the surge from one HSR train.

My dream would be a Beijing HSR circle line connecting the HSR stations around the city (and allow you to travel from one end of the city to another in less than an hour). That doesn't quite seem to happen, but a few tunnels and higher-speed metro are proposed.
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Old December 23rd, 2012, 02:14 PM   #1051
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Map of a Beijing underground on the Metro station building from Tropico4 Modern Times:

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Old December 24th, 2012, 04:23 AM   #1052
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that doesn't include the lines to be opened by the end of this year (2012). After this week Beijing Subway might be the longest of the kind in the world?
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Old December 24th, 2012, 04:23 PM   #1053
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I think Shanghai will still be the longest metro in the World after adding pretty much to the system in Beijing in this phase. But in the future Beijing might build more and surpass Shanghai.
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Old December 24th, 2012, 09:16 PM   #1054
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This year Shanghai is not adding so much to its mileage, unfortunately.
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Old December 25th, 2012, 03:38 PM   #1055
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2013 is not going to be a big year in Beijing either, mostly finishing touches on 2014 plus a "prequel" to 2014, another great year. From an earlier post:
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2013: Line 14 West, Line 8 phase II south, Changping, ChangBa (Changping-line 8 connection)
2014: Line 6 Phase II, Line 7, Line 14, Line 15 West, Xijiao Line
2015: Changping Line phase II, L2, Yanfang
2016: Line 6 West
2017: Line 8 phase III, Line 16, Shanhou Line
2018: Line 3 West, Line 3 East, (Pinggu Line)
2019: Line 12, R2
2020: Line 3 Middle, R1, S6, New Airport line, (Pinggu Line)

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Add to this the southwestern bite of line 10.

Initially I was confused by "Line 8 phase II south", but that was just the missing few stations connecting line 8 with line 6, not the more significant expansion southward, Wangfujing-Qianmen-Dahongmen-beyond, listed for 2017 above.
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Old December 30th, 2012, 02:53 AM   #1056
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12.30 Four new subway lines open today

They are Line 6 phase I, Line 8 phase II south, Line 9 north and Line 10 phase II. The new lines will add 69.8km to the current network, which totals 442km, 261 stations and 37 interchanges.

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Old December 30th, 2012, 04:35 AM   #1057
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This year Shanghai is not adding so much to its mileage, unfortunately.
Yes, but there will be quite a bit next year and in 2014.
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Old December 30th, 2012, 09:44 AM   #1058
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12.30 Four new subway lines open today

They are Line 6 phase I, Line 8 phase II south, Line 9 north and Line 10 phase II. The new lines will add 69.8km to the current network, which totals 442km, 261 stations and 37 interchanges.

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Yep, the Wikipedia map is updated already. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...-Subway_en.png
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There is also oficial map with the the new line 6 plus 3 extentions on lines 8,9 and 10

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Old December 30th, 2012, 11:19 PM   #1060
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Shanghai bumped into 2nd place, huh :p
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