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Old August 27th, 2015, 04:44 AM   #1861
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i think it'll be one of the greatest metro systems in few years.
i would be thankful if you post more pics.
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Old September 13th, 2015, 11:57 PM   #1862
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Beijing Subway starting a public review of 25 Transfer stations
For the the upcoming round of groundbreakings for 3, 12, 17, Fangshan North Extension and Airport Line West Extension.

Highlighting transfer stations of Line 12

The beastly Suzhouqiao station interchange lines 12 and 16 both 8 A car lines.



The triple parallel Sanyuanqiao Station interchange Lines 12, 10 and airport.



the non perpendicular Gaojiayuan Station interchange lines 12 and 14



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Old September 13th, 2015, 11:58 PM   #1863
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Beijing Subway starting a public review of 25 Transfer stations
For the the upcoming round of groundbreakings for 3, 12, 17, Fangshan North Extension and Airport Line West Extension.

Highlighting transfer stations of Line 17

The 3 line (10, 14 and 17) complex of Shilihe Station. Personally I think they missed a great opportunity to build a Spanish solution layout for line 17 under a cross platform interchange layout between Lines 14 and 10. Similar to what is being done with Tianhe Park and Caihongqiao Stations in Guangzhou.



The impressive "Tokyoish" Dongdaqiao Station. Interchange between Lines 6 and 17. Note the reservation of the rumored "CBD" APM line. Also I would like to see dedicated interchange corridors between it and the BRT that runs on top.



Two opposing plans for Wangjing West Station Interchange between Lines 13, 15 and 17
Plan 1:
2 transfer corridors directly connected to Line 17's concourse separated by which direction you want to transfer to on line 13
Line 13 to Line 15 transfer unchanged


Plan 2:
1 wide transfer corridor directly connected to Line 17's concourse and both line 13 platforms
Line 13 to Line 15 transfer served by new tunneled corridor connected to Line 15's concourse and both line 13 platforms


I prefer Plan 2 because it reserves room for another transfer corridor between Lines 17 and 13 making the set up similar to Plan 1. Also the old Line 15 to 13 transfer corridor can be used as a back up should the need arise or reconditioned as additional station exits.

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Old September 27th, 2015, 02:15 PM   #1864
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Some of the mostly off-topic discussion in the CHINA | High Speed Rail thread about commuter rail should be relevant here, like:
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With the Jingjinji plans, including distributing functionality (not a good idea if the goal is to reduce traffic if you ask me, but the government didn't), medium-range/speed transport will be necessary in the Beijing region.

Fortunately the government seems to agree. China sets sights on developing mid-speed inter-city railway network



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A plan for Hebei:
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...t_21907321.htm

3453 km... by 2050!
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Beijing (this basically goes for almost all the other huge urban regions as well) is growing much faster in girth than in population. It has doubled in population in 25 years, but the reach has increased much faster. I've been in Beijing about five year, during which the 5th ring is moving into the position the 4th ring had (then the centre was within the 3rd ring, the growth ring between 3rd and 4th, outside the 4th ring was residential, outside 5th ring was outskirts). The area covered by the 5th ring is more than double the area covered by the 4th. That means more variable density along the rings.

The railway ring in the article chornedsnorkack linked to seems to run parallel to the useful parts of 7th ring.



Now, the 7th ring, apart from the eastern and southern side, will not be a ring road, nor a ring, but a bypass. Beijing has finally hit a geographical constraint to growth, the mountain range in the north and west.



Based on the map I estimate the ring ("loop line") to be about 350 km in length, long enough to be HSR and for HSR to make sense, but much of the distance would have to go in tunnels through less populated mountain parts. The J Miyun-Zhuzhou should be cheaper to build and with much more traffic.
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Old October 2nd, 2015, 06:50 AM   #1865
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12 More subway Projects to be completed in 5 years

Projects to be initiated include:

Line 3 Phase 1
Line 6 Western Extension (apparently not started)
Line 7 Eastern Extension
Line 8 Phase 3 South Extension (apparently not started but most likely referring to section beyond Wufutang)
Line 12
Line 17
Line 19
Pinggu Suburban Metro
CBD APM
Fangshan North Extension
Batong South Extension
Airport Line West Extension

The total length of the Beijing Subway will reach 998.5km by 2020.

What is interesting is how the New Airport Line is not mentioned.

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As for other projects I heard rumblings of northern extensions of Line 5 and 9. In addition to southern extensions of Changping but those are most likely 2020-2025's problem, along with Express Line 1.
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Old October 2nd, 2015, 05:40 PM   #1866
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CBD-APM any additional details?
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Old October 2nd, 2015, 11:13 PM   #1867
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The only thing I know about that APM (which I didn't knew before) is that it will intersect lines 6 and 17 at Dongdaqiao. It may also intersect line 1 and/or line 10.

That Batong South extension (likely beyond Tuqiao) is news for me, too. I believe the line 7 extension is most likely a compromise for the cancelled 4th ring road monorail. And the Pinggu suburban line is the line that will bring Beijing subway to Hebei (something I read some time ago)... But to that Hebei exclave .

BTW, Express line 1 has been called line 18 for some time now.
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Old October 5th, 2015, 01:57 AM   #1868
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New lines (Line 3, Line 7 Eastern Extension, Line 12, Line 17, Line 19, Line 22* and New Airport Express) have been added to Wikipedia's Beijing Subway Plan (for 2021):

[It seems like I can't post links yet.]

Lines 18 (R1), 11, CBD-APM and possible 20 & 21 are still missing however.

* It appears that Line 22 is the same as the one referred to as Pinggu Suburban Metro by saiho above.

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Do you know anything about Western Suburban Line, is it under construction? What type of rail it will be after all, tram, monorail or low-speed maglev?
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Old October 5th, 2015, 04:23 PM   #1869
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New lines (Line 3, Line 7 Eastern Extension, Line 12, Line 17, Line 19, Line 22* and New Airport Express) have been added to Wikipedia's Beijing Subway Plan (for 2021):



Lines 18 (R1), 11, CBD-APM and possible 20 & 21 are still missing however.

* It appears that Line 22 is the same as the one referred to as Pinggu Suburban Metro by saiho above.
FTFY. They have restored the Zhoukoudian branch of the Yanqing-Fangshan line. I've seen lines 20 and 21 in another map posted earlier in this thread.
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Old October 7th, 2015, 04:47 AM   #1870
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@ prangar: the Western Suburban Line will be a modern Tram Line. It is currently under construction.
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Old October 7th, 2015, 04:50 AM   #1871
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Does anyone have information if and when Line 7 will eventually stop at Shuangjing?

(What would be the "Spanish solution" as mentioned earlier in this threat?)
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Old October 16th, 2015, 06:54 PM   #1872
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Beijing Subway Line 10 and Line 6 to shorten peak headways

With the opening of the new Line 10 Songjiazhuang Depot and acquisition of additional trains, Line 10 AM peak headway is shorted to every 2 min and PM peak to every 2 min and 5 sec. There are now 98 6 car trains sets pooled for line 10 an increase of 26 from last year.

Increasing passenger demand on Line 6 has prompted officials to reduce headways of Line 6 services from 3 min 15 sec to every 3 min in AM peak and 3 min to 2 min 45 sec on PM peak.

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Old October 31st, 2015, 01:08 AM   #1873
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At last line 7 opened. It was a long wish from me. This line is an important line, crosses the city area towards south-east. Also extension of line 6 and 15 happened, which have strengthented the network more. Especially line 6 is the backbone of the network.

But one thing exclaimed me, that line 14 is still not connected fully. There is a long gap between Jintailu and Xiju. Why they did such incomplete work? It should better if they rather complete this section first, that is completing the line between Jintailu and Xiju, and construct northern and western extension later. People now must change via line 10 and 6 to complete this journey between this section. I can’t appreciate this decision.
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Old October 31st, 2015, 12:56 PM   #1874
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Even worse, most of the gap will be filled by the end of current year, but the section between Xiju and the South station won't be completed until 2019 due to the planning of Lize area. Anyway, there are no Northern or Western extesions planned.
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For most purposes it will make more sense to look at it as two metro lines for the time being, e.g. 14SW and 14NE. At least these two sections are connected to the rest of the network, unlike what 9/Fangshan was. Though as relief to the 10 line the 14 lines are of limited value.
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Old October 31st, 2015, 09:33 PM   #1876
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For most purposes it will make more sense to look at it as two metro lines for the time being, e.g. 14SW and 14NE. At least these two sections are connected to the rest of the network, unlike what 9/Fangshan was. Though as relief to the 10 line the 14 lines are of limited value.
Relief to Line 10 will be sufficient for the time being. The higher priority would be relief for Lines 1, 4, 5 and 13. My worry is when phase I of Line 16 opens, it will pour riders into the already congested Line 4. With the delay of Line 14 through Lize, I doubt the Line 16 section through Lize will be unaffected. Making the completion of the line by 2017 unlikely.

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Old November 1st, 2015, 04:33 AM   #1877
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One always has to wonder about infrastructure projects in China:
How did the people travel before the opening of the many subway lines?
There was a time before Line 10 was a complete ring.
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Same way as today, by bus. Beijing might (or might no longer) manage if the metro system shut down, but it depends on a massive fleet of busses bringing people to where they need to go.
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Old November 25th, 2015, 03:46 PM   #1879
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From Railway Gazette:

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http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/n...t-awarded.html

Beijing metro traction equipment contract awarded
25 Nov 2015



CHINA: Alstom and its local joint venture Shanghai Alstom Transport Electrical Equipment Co have won a €27m contract to supply traction equipment for 160 metro cars for Phase 3 of Beijing metro Line 6.

The rolling stock is being supplied by CRRC’s Changchun division and is expected to enter service by the end of 2018

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Old November 26th, 2015, 04:43 AM   #1880
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One always has to wonder about infrastructure projects in China:
How did the people travel before the opening of the many subway lines?
There was a time before Line 10 was a complete ring.
It was less "urbanized".
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