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Old November 28th, 2006, 09:49 AM   #101
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It makes me wonder how this will affect China Airlines, Far Eastern Air Transport (FAT), GreatWing Airlines, Mandarin Airlines, Eva Air, Uni Air and TransAsia Airways. Would this greatly reduce the amount of people that want to fly?
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Old November 29th, 2006, 02:09 AM   #102
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Is there any reason why pretty much all of it is elevated?? im comparing to CTRL and the TGV network were most of the tracks run on the surface?
Over 95% of the track is elevated because Taiwan is so dense otherwise it would be "low-speed" rail.
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Old November 29th, 2006, 02:12 AM   #103
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Nice station and train. But as for being the most expensive for both the subway and this HSR its all because of its long delay and corruption rather than the actual cost of the project.
Wrong, even before the delay Taiwan High Speed Rail is still the most expensive project.
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Old November 30th, 2006, 09:21 PM   #104
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Taiwan High - Speed Rail Steams Toward Xmas Launch

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Published: November 30, 2006


TAOYUAN, Taiwan ( Reuters) - A super-fast rail line, the world's second to use ground-breaking Japanese bullet train technology, is steering toward a year-end service launch in Taiwan after years of delays.

``We expect to have a Christmas gift'' for the people of Taiwan, said Samuel Lin, deputy chief operating officer for the line's builder, Taiwan High Speed Rail Corp. (2633.TWO), at one of the line's first test drives for the public on Thursday.

``We hope our contribution is not only to give convenience to the public. It's another kind of revolutionary development.''

Nearly a decade in the making, the line and its sister line in Japan are the world's fastest using conventional rails, with top speeds of up to 315 kilometers per hour.

The world's fastest commercial train, which uses magnetic levitation technology, is a line capable of speeds of more than 400 kph connecting downtown Shanghai with its suburban airport.

Travel on the Taiwan train's main route, connecting the island's top two cities of Taipei in the north with Kaohsiung in the south, takes some 90 minutes to cover 345 km (214 miles), much less than the current five hours on existing rail service.

During a test run on Thursday -- one of the first times the line has been open to outsiders -- the train flew along its north-to-south route, whizzing past rice fields and palm trees.

Inside the train that seats up to 989, the compartments are quiet and comfortable, much like the line's Japanese counterpart.

In sharp contrast, the train's ride to the present has been anything but smooth, involving numerous cost overruns resulting in a US$15 billion price tag. Technical issues have also dogged the project, including two minor derailments -- both attributed to human error -- in recent weeks during trial runs.

SAFETY ISSUES

Safety has been one of the most recent concerns, with the train's operator required to clear a number of hurdles set by the transportation ministry before it can launch service.

Trains must complete safe test-runs for one month, checking braking ability at stations and meeting other smooth operation conditions before the formal launch will be permitted, a ministry committee decided on Tuesday.

``It's safe. For me it's not a problem,'' said Yvan Beuraert, one of the train's drivers, many of whom come from Europe. ``To have small problems is normal.''

The line will eventually have a dozen stations, with the capacity to handle a train every three to four minutes. Operators are initially aiming for 150,000 passengers a day, which would represent 70 percent of capacity.

Two Japanese consortia, led by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Ltd. (7011.T), were awarded contracts for the tracks, which they built using Japanese bullet train, or Shinkansen, technology.

Many people may initially be drawn to the trains as a sort of tourist attraction. Train watching, too, has become a spectator sport for those living in some of the smaller communities along the route.

In the town of Hsinchu outside Taipei, thousands of people have been gathering each weekend for guided tours of the local station and to watch as trains go by.

``Expectations are high,'' said Ann Li, a public affairs specialist at the rail operator. ``When the train comes, they go 'wow!' and applaud.''

A one-way Taipei-Kaohsiung ticket will cost T$1,490 when service starts, 30 percent less than an economy-class air ticket.
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Old November 30th, 2006, 11:12 PM   #105
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Over 95% of the track is elevated because Taiwan is so dense otherwise it would be "low-speed" rail.
I think it is more an enginering thing; long distance trackbuilding in a tropic climate is less hard to do with elevated tracks fixed to a steady foundation, becourse the behavior of the tracks is better to calculate.

With elevated tracks there will also be less problems with severe rain, temprature change, earthquakes other traffic, etc.
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Old December 4th, 2006, 08:28 PM   #106
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wow...i like the orangie train..the taiwanese bullet train...cool!
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Old December 5th, 2006, 12:13 AM   #107
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Nearly a decade in the making, the line and its sister line in Japan are the world's fastest using conventional rails, with top speeds of up to 315 kilometers per hour.
Do not forget that in France and Germany, TGV and German ICE run at 320kph. The new spanish high speed line with the german velaro will open soon with a top speed of 350kph.
The new line in France will open in June 2007. This has been developped for a 320kph speed, but tests are actually running and many high speed lines in France will maybe be upgraded to 360kph.

BTW Congrats' to Taiwan for this Spectacular line! So many bridges, channels, and design stations! That's pure beauty !!!
Well done!!
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Old December 5th, 2006, 01:03 AM   #108
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some videos:

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=YRi1pyZw8is
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Old December 6th, 2006, 09:01 PM   #109
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Wrong, even before the delay Taiwan High Speed Rail is still the most expensive project.

Whats the main reason for the cost? I'm really curious how they could make it the world's most expensive rail project considering the size of Taiwan. Japan,France, and Germany all have greater HS networks and I'm pretty sure they have more stations and related HS infrastructures than Taiwan. Is it the material, labor, land value, the entire elevated rail reason? enlighten me.
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Old December 7th, 2006, 05:19 AM   #110
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^ this is just an educated guess, but most likely the HSR project in taiwan was built from ground up, including the track, stations, equipments, personnels, etc... whereas Japan, and EU's HSR uses existing train stations and railroad tracks which greatly reduces the construction cost.
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Old December 8th, 2006, 01:30 PM   #111
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picture spamming...:j/k:

but did you really need to post all those pics to make us see the development?

Nice train and nice station though...

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Old December 9th, 2006, 02:20 AM   #112
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but did you really need to post all those pics to make us see the development?
I dont understand your question. Would you rather just read text and not see pics of the development? How boring that would be.
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Old December 9th, 2006, 02:21 AM   #113
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some more pics of taichung station. i couldn't post the pics from this dude's flickr album. so here's the link:


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Old December 9th, 2006, 02:23 AM   #114
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some more photos of hsinchu station:





























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Old December 9th, 2006, 03:39 AM   #115
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it is really impressive and spectacular subway system ever built in the whole world.must be expensive for every train,like a amazing dragon flying in the sky.so many and many inhabitants take photo for them.never express with any language
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Old December 9th, 2006, 07:06 AM   #116
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Is the land around some of the rural(I'm guessing?) stations marked off for development. It looks like it with the street grid surrouding the stations in place.
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Old December 11th, 2006, 08:48 AM   #117
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Very impressive! I would love to have something like that...so modern (hell, even futuristic), clean, and sleek!
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Old December 11th, 2006, 09:11 AM   #118
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Futuristic, very impressive, awesome and fantastic!
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Old December 11th, 2006, 11:41 AM   #119
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That's some SERIOUS infrastructure there. HOW MUCH CONCRETE DID THEY USE?!?!?
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I dont understand your question. Would you rather just read text and not see pics of the development? How boring that would be.
Nooo... i like pics but that first page was just over flooding with pics.

Anyway cool projects...and cool train.
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