San Francisco - Oakland Bay Bridge - Page 6

HARTride 2012 · August 7th, 2007, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Nivek

The canteliver bridge looks aweful...glad that they replacing it..

Agreed. The current cantevelier is AWFUL, UGLY. And above all, not safe against eartquakes. The new span will be able to better withstand quakes t a certain magnitude.

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Originally Posted by OettingerCroat

im reading the website now, you know this bridge was supposed to be completed BY 2007??? shit i might have been driving on it by now, instead i must wait till 2013... and it wont look cool driving on it till the old one is torn down in 2015! thanks schwarzenegger.

Yep, I hate it when those politicians mess with infrastructure projcts like this bridge. Its absloutely horrendous, unacceptable. I don't ever want to see this majestic bridge collapse twenty years down the road because of shoddy political red tape.

Gary_A_Hill · August 8th, 2007, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by LosAngelesMetroBoy

its northern cali caltrans, they cant do anything on time or on budget after 1960

CalTrans is not responsible for the delay. It was primarily caused by local politicians bickering about the bridge design and demanding (especially Jerry Brown) a "signature" bridge. That and the other Mayor Brown (Willie, of S. F.) trying to change the location of route on Treasure Island. All this delayed the project by many years, and gave us the most expensive type of bridge proposed, a type not dictated by engineering necessity but by politics.

HARTride 2012 · August 17th, 2007, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary_A_Hill

CalTrans is not responsible for the delay. It was primarily caused by local politicians bickering about the bridge design and demanding (especially Jerry Brown) a "signature" bridge. That and the other Mayor Brown (Willie, of S. F.) trying to change the location of route on Treasure Island. All this delayed the project by many years, and gave us the most expensive type of bridge proposed, a type not dictated by engineering necessity but by politics.

Don't forget the crap Gov. Arnie pulled off. I'm not surprised that the local politicians tried to toy around with the bridge too.

jamesinclair · August 19th, 2007, 02:15 AM

Is it just me, or does that hole seem like it would have made for a great rail line?

OakRidge · August 19th, 2007, 11:17 PM

It's just you.

Armon · August 24th, 2007, 02:17 AM

update
Well work on the self anchored suspension bridge has seem to have started.
Pic from 7/7/07 (all pic from cal trans website )

Armon · September 3rd, 2007, 03:18 AM

The closed bay bridge(all pictures from flickr)

image hosted on flickr

image hosted on flickr

***I-275westcoastfl*** · September 3rd, 2007, 05:01 AM

Why'd they close it??

OettingerCroat · September 3rd, 2007, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by I-275westcoastfl

Why'd they close it??

they are replacing the deck

jarbury · September 3rd, 2007, 11:18 AM

Wow how long was it closed for? Traffic would have been a nightmare on alternative routes I guess?

gladisimo · September 3rd, 2007, 11:23 AM

It's still closed. I think 8pm Friday to 5am Tuesday.

There are 4 alternative routes.

1) Golden Gate/Richmond-San Rafael (which is ok one way, but 9 dollars back to SF

2) San Mateo Bridge, best option for car

3) Dumbarton Bridge (More like an alternative for the San Mateo bridge since people who need to cross the bay will be flooding the bridge

4) BART, of course (and ferries)

jchernin · September 3rd, 2007, 07:06 PM

^ actually traffic hasnt been too bad. holiday weekends tend to have lower traffic. plus they banged the fact they were closing the bridge into our heads weeks ahead of time (till i was seeing sliding bridge decks in my sleep).

nice pix of the empty bridge. hopefully theyll get the bridge open 2morrow morning

OettingerCroat · September 3rd, 2007, 11:03 PM

is the entire bridge closed or just one of the two spans? what happens to the poor ppl on Yerba Buena? lol

Armon · September 4th, 2007, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by OettingerCroat

is the entire bridge closed or just one of the two spans? what happens to the poor ppl on Yerba Buena? lol

The whole thing is closed, I guess the people on treasure island have to use ferries.

Calvin W · September 4th, 2007, 05:00 PM

Slowly but surely this new connection is coming together. May not be finished in my lifetime but it will be finished in someones lifetime!

Gary_A_Hill · September 4th, 2007, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Armon

The whole thing is closed, I guess the people on treasure island have to use ferries.

Not true. The suspension bridge connecting Yerba Buena
and Treasure Island to San Francisco was kept open for
local traffic, buses and cars with permits. The residents
of Treasure Island pretended they were cut off, however,
as an excuse to throw a party.

hoosier · September 6th, 2007, 03:11 AM

The new span is lower than the existing one. Anybody know why?

jchernin · September 6th, 2007, 09:46 AM

^ prob to save $

gladisimo · September 6th, 2007, 08:14 PM

I'm guessing design and money. The physics of the two bridges work differently, and I guess (hope) the design of the new bridge is for a smoother ride the whole way through. Currently, you have a straight section of the bridge (coming from SF), then near the end, there's a curve that's rather sharp and abrupt (not smooth), causing many unsuspecting people to brake.

Armon · September 7th, 2007, 01:01 AM

from 8/15/07(ct website)

August 24th, 2007, 02:17 AM	#106
Armon Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 94 Likes (Received): 0	update Well work on the self anchored suspension bridge has seem to have started. Pic from 7/7/07 (all pic from cal trans website ) __________________ The Westside

September 3rd, 2007, 03:18 AM	#107
Armon Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 94 Likes (Received): 0	The closed bay bridge(all pictures from flickr) image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr __________________ The Westside

September 3rd, 2007, 11:23 AM	#111
gladisimo If I could be anyone... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: SF, FC, HK Posts: 2,571 Likes (Received): 0	It's still closed. I think 8pm Friday to 5am Tuesday. There are 4 alternative routes. 1) Golden Gate/Richmond-San Rafael (which is ok one way, but 9 dollars back to SF 2) San Mateo Bridge, best option for car 3) Dumbarton Bridge (More like an alternative for the San Mateo bridge since people who need to cross the bay will be flooding the bridge 4) BART, of course (and ferries) __________________ I left my <3 in HK RIP Dopey - 9/2005 - 20/2/2008

September 4th, 2007, 05:00 PM	#115
Calvin W Canadian eh! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Where am I? Prove it! Posts: 2,038 Likes (Received): 8	Slowly but surely this new connection is coming together. May not be finished in my lifetime but it will be finished in someones lifetime! __________________ I AM SASKATCHEWANIAN!

September 6th, 2007, 08:14 PM	#119
gladisimo If I could be anyone... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: SF, FC, HK Posts: 2,571 Likes (Received): 0	I'm guessing design and money. The physics of the two bridges work differently, and I guess (hope) the design of the new bridge is for a smoother ride the whole way through. Currently, you have a straight section of the bridge (coming from SF), then near the end, there's a curve that's rather sharp and abrupt (not smooth), causing many unsuspecting people to brake. __________________ I left my <3 in HK RIP Dopey - 9/2005 - 20/2/2008

August 19th, 2007, 02:15 AM	#104
jamesinclair Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 210 Likes (Received): 0	Is it just me, or does that hole seem like it would have made for a great rail line?

August 19th, 2007, 11:17 PM	#105
OakRidge Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Northern California Posts: 303 Likes (Received): 17	It's just you.

September 3rd, 2007, 05:01 AM	#108
*I-275westcoastfl* Jestem Hardkorem Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 5,541 Likes (Received): 30	Why'd they close it??

September 3rd, 2007, 07:06 PM	#112
jchernin Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Santa Rosa/North Bay Posts: 265 Likes (Received): 0	^ actually traffic hasnt been too bad. holiday weekends tend to have lower traffic. plus they banged the fact they were closing the bridge into our heads weeks ahead of time (till i was seeing sliding bridge decks in my sleep). nice pix of the empty bridge. hopefully theyll get the bridge open 2morrow morning

September 3rd, 2007, 11:03 PM	#113
OettingerCroat Disenfranchised Join Date: May 2005 Location: Oakland (USA) // Split (CRO) Posts: 7,461 Likes (Received): 1	is the entire bridge closed or just one of the two spans? what happens to the poor ppl on Yerba Buena? lol

September 6th, 2007, 03:11 AM	#117
hoosier Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 2,465 Likes (Received): 0	The new span is lower than the existing one. Anybody know why?

September 6th, 2007, 09:46 AM	#118
jchernin Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Santa Rosa/North Bay Posts: 265 Likes (Received): 0	^ prob to save $

September 7th, 2007, 01:01 AM	#120
Armon Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 94 Likes (Received): 0	from 8/15/07(ct website) __________________ The Westside

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