Shrewsbury developments thread! - Page 5

Manchester Planner · October 2nd, 2007, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimonTheSoundMan

Just curious to why this thread is not in the Brum forum?

Because Shrewsbury is

a) Not in Birmingham
b) Not neighbouring Birmingham
c) Not really anywhere near Birmingham
d) Nothing to do with Birmingham
e) etc

Gherkin · October 16th, 2007, 08:35 PM

Anyone visiting Shrewsbury of late will have noticed the great improvement in the town centre pavements

Almost a foot wider

EVERYWHERE!!!

The new theatre was also looking huge, but I visited at night so my pictures were too dark. Plus I didn't take any.

Webcam's here: http://www.shrewsbury.gov.uk/public/...elshBridge.htm

Telfordboy · November 3rd, 2007, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manchester Planner

Because Shrewsbury is

a) Not in Birmingham
b) Not neighbouring Birmingham
c) Not really anywhere near Birmingham
d) Nothing to do with Birmingham
e) etc

Yeah, if anything it should be in the Wales forum.

Sorry, I had to do it.

Manchester Planner · November 3rd, 2007, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telfordboy

Yeah, if anything it should be in the Wales forum.

Sorry, I had to do it.

As you are from Telford, taking the mickey out of Shrewsbury isn't too clever. If anything you're just jealous.

Telfordboy · November 3rd, 2007, 07:07 PM

Pff, yeah yeah whatever

Gherkin · November 3rd, 2007, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telfordboy

Yeah, if anything it should be in the Wales forum.

Sorry, I had to do it.

etc

Manchester Planner · November 4th, 2007, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telfordboy

Pff, yeah yeah whatever

Shrewsbury -

Telford -

Telfordboy · November 4th, 2007, 01:37 AM

Yeah, you don't have to tell me that Shrewsbury town centre is better than Telfords. Other than that there is nothing really that Shrewsbury has over it.

Manchester Planner · November 4th, 2007, 02:20 AM

Better railway station for a start.

Gherkin · November 4th, 2007, 01:52 PM

A better train station:

AND a better park:

AND more buildings like this:

AND better bridges:

AND a river:

... all in the town centre.

Manchester Planner · November 4th, 2007, 02:43 PM

No need to tell me - tell "Telfordboy"..

Telfordboy · November 4th, 2007, 08:10 PM

Like I said a better town centre. The park is debabtable and I can think of at least one bridge in Telford that is better than all of yours.

Also, while I can see the appeal that Tudor buildings have they never really do it for me.

Our surrounding countryside is better than yours as well. We have way more trees too.

Gherkin · November 4th, 2007, 11:25 PM

Oh that bridge that's in Ironbridge? Shame that they didn't build it in Telford or else you'd have a case

Did I mention churches and abbeys also?

Telfordboy · November 4th, 2007, 11:56 PM

Ironbridge is in Telford. We have churches too but fair enough, I'll give you the abbey and remind you of our World Heritage Site.

We have a couple of decent abbey ruins near by though

Hmm although Shrewsbury has Haughmond near by I suppose.

Manchester Planner · November 5th, 2007, 01:56 PM

If Ironbridge is in Telford then Wroxeter is in Shrewsbury. Adding history from a nearby older settlement (eg Ironbridge/Wroxeter) to a newer one (Telford/Shrewsbury) is cheating. The Iron Bridge, which is in Ironbridge, was built centuries before Telford got started. Using it to represent Telford is pathetic (which is what is done on the M54 for instance, also stating that Telford is the "birthplace of industry" which is not true - how can Telford have been the birthplace of industry when it was built centuries after industry began).

Face it - Telford is a mediocre new town in beautiful Shropshire countryside.

Telfordboy · November 5th, 2007, 09:22 PM

So you're saying that the older settlements within Telford are just holes? That is an awful lot of Telford. The fact is the new town was designated with the aim of regenerating the old towns and villages of the East Shropshire coalfield. Take them out and nothing would have happened except further decline.

All of the towns and villages on the coalfield, and Wellington have a long and shared history, the fact that they have had an out of town shopping centre, new roads and new residential and industrial developments between them and a new name imposed on them is fairly irrelevant. They had mostly turned into a mini version of the Black Country by the time of the first designation, except riddled with the scars of exhausted industries. The fact that the three old towns in the south Dawley, Madeley and Ironbridge were so entwinned with the the two in the north Wellington and Oakengates was the very reason it was redesignated in 68 as Telford and included all five towns plus all the villages and hamlets in between.

If you knew what the area was like previously you would think that the new town was a good idea. Sure I don't like how it was planned but I can't change what has already been built. But I can see enough potential to know that its not totally a lost cause.

Why do you care any way?

For the record here is the map of Telford's boundaries

Gherkin · November 6th, 2007, 01:56 AM

I like how the boundary just passes Ironbridge

That map just shows the lasso in Telford's dirty paws stealing worthwhile neighbouring settlements. If Ironbridge is in Telford, Shrewsbury's in Northern Ireland...

Telfordboy · November 6th, 2007, 12:49 PM

It actually crosses the reiver a little bit, just to make sure. However Ironbridge was part of the original new town before it was called Telford, and as for the settlement grabbing was Harlescott always in Shrewsbury? Was Frankwell even? No, places change towns grow and absorb other towns. It has happened pretty much all over the world.

Yo see the white bit just above the word Ironbridge? can you guess what that area is called? Well its Woodside? Is that in Telford? Its closer to Ironbridge.

***Jonesy55*** · November 6th, 2007, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manchester Planner

Shrewsbury -

Telford -

Manchester Planner, it's cruel to point out these things, it's bad enough that people have to live in Telford as it is without you rubbing it in

***Jonesy55*** · November 6th, 2007, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gherkin007

Anyone visiting Shrewsbury of late will have noticed the great improvement in the town centre pavements

Almost a foot wider

EVERYWHERE!!!

The new theatre was also looking huge, but I visited at night so my pictures were too dark. Plus I didn't take any.

Webcam's here: http://www.shrewsbury.gov.uk/public/...elshBridge.htm

The new pavements are an improvement and should allow for more pedestrians to flow freely through the town, hopefully we will get round to pedestrianising more of the town centre at some point, starting with mardol maybe.

The theatre is coming along nicely, the brick cladding has started to appear at the end by the Guildhall.

In other news, Shrewsbury Environmental Technology Centre, a sustainable office development (aimed at environmental technology companies of which there are a cluster in Shrewsbury) on the site of the former SABC social club is taking shape. Some of the office space has been pre-let to Water Management Consultants, the international environmental consultancy founded in Shrewsbury.

http://www.pump-house.com/node/

http://www.watermc.com/

November 3rd, 2007, 07:07 PM	#85
Telfordboy Fus-Ro-Dah! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Yo' mama! Posts: 10,611 Likes (Received): 13	Pff, yeah yeah whatever __________________ You may be able to contact me at the Hall of the Wendigo should you really feel the need. http://hallofthewendigo.informe.com/forum/

November 4th, 2007, 01:37 AM	#88
Telfordboy Fus-Ro-Dah! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Yo' mama! Posts: 10,611 Likes (Received): 13	Yeah, you don't have to tell me that Shrewsbury town centre is better than Telfords. Other than that there is nothing really that Shrewsbury has over it. __________________ You may be able to contact me at the Hall of the Wendigo should you really feel the need. http://hallofthewendigo.informe.com/forum/

November 4th, 2007, 08:10 PM	#92
Telfordboy Fus-Ro-Dah! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Yo' mama! Posts: 10,611 Likes (Received): 13	Like I said a better town centre. The park is debabtable and I can think of at least one bridge in Telford that is better than all of yours. Also, while I can see the appeal that Tudor buildings have they never really do it for me. Our surrounding countryside is better than yours as well. We have way more trees too. __________________ You may be able to contact me at the Hall of the Wendigo should you really feel the need. http://hallofthewendigo.informe.com/forum/ Last edited by Telfordboy; November 5th, 2007 at 09:36 PM. Reason: Poor editing previously.

November 4th, 2007, 11:56 PM	#94
Telfordboy Fus-Ro-Dah! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Yo' mama! Posts: 10,611 Likes (Received): 13	Ironbridge is in Telford. We have churches too but fair enough, I'll give you the abbey and remind you of our World Heritage Site. We have a couple of decent abbey ruins near by though Hmm although Shrewsbury has Haughmond near by I suppose. __________________ You may be able to contact me at the Hall of the Wendigo should you really feel the need. http://hallofthewendigo.informe.com/forum/

November 5th, 2007, 09:22 PM	#96
Telfordboy Fus-Ro-Dah! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Yo' mama! Posts: 10,611 Likes (Received): 13	So you're saying that the older settlements within Telford are just holes? That is an awful lot of Telford. The fact is the new town was designated with the aim of regenerating the old towns and villages of the East Shropshire coalfield. Take them out and nothing would have happened except further decline. All of the towns and villages on the coalfield, and Wellington have a long and shared history, the fact that they have had an out of town shopping centre, new roads and new residential and industrial developments between them and a new name imposed on them is fairly irrelevant. They had mostly turned into a mini version of the Black Country by the time of the first designation, except riddled with the scars of exhausted industries. The fact that the three old towns in the south Dawley, Madeley and Ironbridge were so entwinned with the the two in the north Wellington and Oakengates was the very reason it was redesignated in 68 as Telford and included all five towns plus all the villages and hamlets in between. If you knew what the area was like previously you would think that the new town was a good idea. Sure I don't like how it was planned but I can't change what has already been built. But I can see enough potential to know that its not totally a lost cause. Why do you care any way? For the record here is the map of Telford's boundaries __________________ You may be able to contact me at the Hall of the Wendigo should you really feel the need. http://hallofthewendigo.informe.com/forum/

October 16th, 2007, 08:35 PM	#82
Gherkin actual gherkin Join Date: May 2005 Location: Leeds Posts: 13,459 Likes (Received): 199	Anyone visiting Shrewsbury of late will have noticed the great improvement in the town centre pavements Almost a foot wider EVERYWHERE!!! The new theatre was also looking huge, but I visited at night so my pictures were too dark. Plus I didn't take any. Webcam's here: http://www.shrewsbury.gov.uk/public/...elshBridge.htm

November 4th, 2007, 02:20 AM	#89
Manchester Planner Chief Bureaucrat Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,840 Likes (Received): 1	Better railway station for a start.

November 4th, 2007, 01:52 PM	#90
Gherkin actual gherkin Join Date: May 2005 Location: Leeds Posts: 13,459 Likes (Received): 199	A better train station: AND a better park: AND more buildings like this: AND better bridges: AND a river: ... all in the town centre.

November 4th, 2007, 02:43 PM	#91
Manchester Planner Chief Bureaucrat Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,840 Likes (Received): 1	No need to tell me - tell "Telfordboy"..

November 4th, 2007, 11:25 PM	#93
Gherkin actual gherkin Join Date: May 2005 Location: Leeds Posts: 13,459 Likes (Received): 199	Oh that bridge that's in Ironbridge? Shame that they didn't build it in Telford or else you'd have a case Did I mention churches and abbeys also?

November 5th, 2007, 01:56 PM	#95
Manchester Planner Chief Bureaucrat Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,840 Likes (Received): 1	If Ironbridge is in Telford then Wroxeter is in Shrewsbury. Adding history from a nearby older settlement (eg Ironbridge/Wroxeter) to a newer one (Telford/Shrewsbury) is cheating. The Iron Bridge, which is in Ironbridge, was built centuries before Telford got started. Using it to represent Telford is pathetic (which is what is done on the M54 for instance, also stating that Telford is the "birthplace of industry" which is not true - how can Telford have been the birthplace of industry when it was built centuries after industry began). Face it - Telford is a mediocre new town in beautiful Shropshire countryside.

November 6th, 2007, 01:56 AM	#97
Gherkin actual gherkin Join Date: May 2005 Location: Leeds Posts: 13,459 Likes (Received): 199	I like how the boundary just passes Ironbridge That map just shows the lasso in Telford's dirty paws stealing worthwhile neighbouring settlements. If Ironbridge is in Telford, Shrewsbury's in Northern Ireland...

November 6th, 2007, 12:49 PM	#98
Telfordboy Fus-Ro-Dah! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Yo' mama! Posts: 10,611 Likes (Received): 13	It actually crosses the reiver a little bit, just to make sure. However Ironbridge was part of the original new town before it was called Telford, and as for the settlement grabbing was Harlescott always in Shrewsbury? Was Frankwell even? No, places change towns grow and absorb other towns. It has happened pretty much all over the world. Yo see the white bit just above the word Ironbridge? can you guess what that area is called? Well its Woodside? Is that in Telford? Its closer to Ironbridge. __________________ You may be able to contact me at the Hall of the Wendigo should you really feel the need. http://hallofthewendigo.informe.com/forum/

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