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Old October 21st, 2007, 11:24 PM   #261
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We relatively do have a lot of TOTSO's (Turn Off To Stay On), indeed. Most of them are just for historical (older motorway parts who got completed later on), but also for ecological reasons. But average distances are quite low here, so people won't even notice it. Btw, the situation on the A50, A1, or A6 is nothing compared to motorways like the A58 or A59. More than 5 TOTSO's on each of them.

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Old October 21st, 2007, 11:24 PM   #262
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There are talkings about a motorway from time to time, but i doubt if it will happen within the next 15 years.
Hehe, we've got something in common Polish national program of building motorways and expressways can't seriously start for 30 years. But we need 5000 km, not 35


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Sometimes people can't even notice, they are in Netherlands , for example driving from Aachen to Brussel or from Duisburg to Antwerpen. 30 minutes and it's over.
And don't remind me road from Apeldoorn to Breda (A50/A59/N65/A58). Ughh... Night, rain, traffic jam, road works, yet another vanishing motorway... Never again....
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 09:46 AM   #263
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I'm still pleasantly surprised they put a concrete barrier in the middle.
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 11:08 AM   #264
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I'm still pleasantly surprised they put a concrete barrier in the middle.
yeah, that was first what have i noticed, too
btw, those mongolian look fantastic!
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 01:58 AM   #265
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Maybe the Strijp in Eindhoven? (never been there, but I heard it was very bad pavement there) Though I doubt it has still a motorway qualification...
I drove down that stretch a couple of times last year.
It's great example of old motorway construction in its original state. It is a 70kph arterial route now. Oh, and yes...it's bumpy concrete paving
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Old October 26th, 2007, 02:08 AM   #266
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A real crappy motorway:
A4 between Legnica and Wrocław (92 km), one of most attended in Poland.

Here you have some pictures
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=801

You might ask, what's crappy in new road? Ok, I tell you. It was opened in 1936 by Germans and reconstructed in 2002-2006 just in the same line - with no widening or straightening. This road, signed as a motorway, has no emergency lanes - there are only places to stop every 2 km away. There's also no place to add emergency lanes (look at the bridges). Because of that, there's a speed limit 110 km/h (instead of 130). And look at the junctions with speed limit 30 at exitramps!

If they wanted not to waste a lot of money, they should make it 3+ with new infrastructure - bridges etc...
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Old October 26th, 2007, 02:20 AM   #267
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Highway 409 near the Toronto Airport.

It is bumpy and its not a good idea to go over 120km/hr..

It is not bad really, but a depressing highway..

However the 427 near the airport is good, There are like 5 lanes on both sides and it has a sharp turn. Its funny to watch 2 trucks go through on 2 lanes...
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Why depressing?
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Old October 26th, 2007, 02:27 AM   #269
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to me as well looks depressing, everything is gray and old.
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Old October 26th, 2007, 02:29 AM   #270
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It indeed looks depressing with all that rust, and the van makes it even worse.
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Old October 26th, 2007, 02:34 AM   #271
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Maybe they should sell prozac at the junctions?

BTW: You shouldn't visit England, 'cause almost every english motorway is depressing (look at Pathetic Motorway website, http://pathetic.org.uk/).
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Old October 26th, 2007, 02:42 AM   #272
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A real crappy motorway:
A4 between Legnica and Wrocław (92 km), one of most attended in Poland.

Here you have some pictures
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=801

You might ask, what's crappy in new road? Ok, I tell you. It was opened in 1936 by Germans and reconstructed in 2002-2006 just in the same line - with no widening or straightening. This road, signed as a motorway, has no emergency lanes - there are only places to stop every 2 km away. There's also no place to add emergency lanes (look at the bridges). Because of that, there's a speed limit 110 km/h (instead of 130). And look at the junctions with speed limit 30 at exitramps!

If they wanted not to waste a lot of money, they should make it 3+ with new infrastructure - bridges etc...
Well, it certainly doesn't qualify for this thread, but it indeed is kinda sad for such an important highway to be without hard shoulders and speed limit 110 km/h. Although I can see hard shoulders every now and then. It wouldn't really get my attention, if it wasn't renovated recently. But ok, at least it's much better than it used to be!
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Old October 26th, 2007, 02:46 AM   #273
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i hope that highway is improved...

You know concrete medians and such....


The highways around have been really fixed and improved but this road is just a long off ramp from one highway to another... Only 6 km long...

yeah also it is in a industrial area so that does not help either.
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Old October 26th, 2007, 12:41 PM   #274
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A real crappy motorway:
A4 between Legnica and Wrocław (92 km), one of most attended in Poland.
it isn't crappy at all if we consider about it as expressway, not motorway! the only thing are probably exit ramps (i don't see them, but i can imagine 30 km/h projected ramps).
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There you have picture to see, what am i talking about.
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And this road is signed as a motorway, not an expressway.

One explanation: A18 is an extension of A4 motorway towards Berlin.
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omg! this is an exit?! i thought it's an entrance ramp! well, exits are extremely crapy indeed without lanes for slowing down
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Old October 26th, 2007, 01:12 PM   #277
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That's very shoddy indeed
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Old October 26th, 2007, 01:14 PM   #278
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At present the Waikato Expressway towards Hamilton from Auckland is pretty rough. It's got quite a shoddy road surface on it, though it doesn't have exits like that Polish motorway!

I'll take some pictures next time I'm heading down that way.
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Old October 26th, 2007, 01:24 PM   #279
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Jesus the shinanigans with that Waikato Expressway seem never ending.......delays,crappy work that has to be patched up just after it's done, more delays.
I'm starting to wonder if I will be able to drive from Auckland to Cambridge on a smooth,completed highway before I turn 40......
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Old October 26th, 2007, 01:28 PM   #280
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At present the Waikato Expressway towards Hamilton from Auckland is pretty rough. It's got quite a shoddy road surface on it, though it doesn't have exits like that Polish motorway!

I'll take some pictures next time I'm heading down that way.
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