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Old October 10th, 2005, 05:59 AM   #21
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Concrete all the way!

If well maintained, it provides more traction than asphalt. This is especially true if it is raining or snowing. Oils seep out of the asphalt and add to the problem. Ironically because of its incredible smoothness, the traction is worse. Many asphalt race tracks have added concrete strips to the most abused spots (near the apexes) to add traction and improve longevity.

Mondern concrete roads are no longer made with all those expanion joints, so the roughness that every one is complaining about is more related to older roads that could use some work. They are louder however making them less desireble in residential areas.
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Old October 10th, 2005, 08:06 AM   #22
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We don't have that problem here in Los Angeles.

Most of the freeways around here are concrete. It is noisy and annoying to hear.

A few stretches are asphalt, and everytime I hear something on the order of a mute button, then I don't even have to look to see that it's asphalt.

Asphalt.
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Old October 10th, 2005, 09:08 AM   #23
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funny.... all of the americans that are ALWAYS at odds with the europeans vote for concrete, bc the saddening US freeways are all concrete.

these guys will do ANYTHING not to agree with these european/canadian "fereigners."

you love the sound it makes.... *blump blump blump blump blump blump for an hour* yah what a conclusive arguement.

"I PICK CONCRETE BC IT SOUNDS COOLER!" sheesh...

i appreciate guys like czm3, who point out ACTUAL deficiencies in asphalt, thank you for being objective czm3

anyways i pick asphalt...
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Old October 10th, 2005, 02:16 PM   #24
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Pretty much every road in the Uk is asphalt (we call in tarmac for some reason, think its a brand name) its so much nicer to drive on especially when it's a new road surface. There's only one concrete dual carriageway near me but I hate driving on it, it sounds like your on an old train!
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Old October 10th, 2005, 05:04 PM   #25
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Asphalt - but it's not that simple - asphalt comes in differing qualities.

Here we have these ANCIENT asphalt highways that have little to no damage at all, we have those brand new, 'ever dry' asphalt highways, and we have those crappy late 80s highways that are goddamn terrible, with cracks everywhere.

The latest modifications, polymer, and glass recycled ones are the coolest imo.
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Old October 10th, 2005, 05:13 PM   #26
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Just imagine how it feels to drive on a highway like this ones????





Could you explain me why a state like California, the richest in the country and with one of the higher motorization levels of the world has highways in such a crappy condition, and with such a big urban impact, dividing the cities, and making them feel like pedestrian nightmares.
I would love to see highways like the ones in the Netherlands, France or Spain in California.
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Old October 10th, 2005, 06:49 PM   #27
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That looks incredible
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Old October 11th, 2005, 12:27 PM   #28
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man, this looks good enough to eat from.
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Old October 11th, 2005, 11:11 PM   #29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OettingerCroat
funny.... all of the americans that are ALWAYS at odds with the europeans vote for concrete, bc the saddening US freeways are all concrete.

these guys will do ANYTHING not to agree with these european/canadian "fereigners."

you love the sound it makes.... *blump blump blump blump blump blump for an hour* yah what a conclusive arguement.

"I PICK CONCRETE BC IT SOUNDS COOLER!" sheesh...

i appreciate guys like czm3, who point out ACTUAL deficiencies in asphalt, thank you for being objective czm3

anyways i pick asphalt...
You might want to re-read some of the posts. I am the only one who wrote about liking the sound of concrete, and I am a CANADIAN, not an American.

Sure, it might seem trivial to like the sound of driving on concrete, but its just as trivial as not liking it. If concrete highways are well constructed, they can be impecably smooth and a real pleasure to drive. Sure, asphalt is very nice too, but people must consider that not all concrete highways are bone rattlers.

Cheers.
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Old October 12th, 2005, 11:46 PM   #30
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What does Japan make its roads out of. They are really good. Even if it is asphalt, it looks different than in other countries. All the roads seem new. I heard they use some plastic technology too.
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Old October 13th, 2005, 04:09 AM   #31
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What does Japan make its roads out of. They are really good. Even if it is asphalt, it looks different than in other countries. All the roads seem new. I heard they use some plastic technology too.
Nowadays, the highways in Japan adopt 'new multi-functional pavement' (special leachy drainage asphaltic compunder). It has the effect of reducing the road noise and saving the impact on the environment.



left:old fashioned asphalt,
right: new multi-functional asphalt, (easy to get dry!)
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Old October 13th, 2005, 04:32 AM   #32
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I prefer driving on asphalt because it's smoother, but I hate how it gets replaced more often. I voted concrete though b/c even though it isn't the smoothest of rides, at least replacing doesn't happen every 5 years which results in horibblt slow traffic.
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Old October 13th, 2005, 04:37 AM   #33
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wow, does the military use these highways you speak of? are 60-ton tanks zoomin down the motorway at 80 km/h? how could an asphalt road turn into such deplorable condition in only 5 years that it has to be repaved?
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Old October 13th, 2005, 05:12 AM   #34
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I prefer driving on asphalt because it's smoother, but I hate how it gets replaced more often. I voted concrete though b/c even though it isn't the smoothest of rides, at least replacing doesn't happen every 5 years which results in horibblt slow traffic.
concrete lasts for (at least) twice as long as asphalt. But the repair work of concrete takes by far longer time than asphalt, and costs a great deal. (good and bad points)
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Old October 13th, 2005, 10:17 PM   #35
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Nowadays, the highways in Japan adopt 'new multi-functional pavement' (special leachy drainage asphaltic compunder). It has the effect of reducing the road noise and saving the impact on the environment.



left:old fashioned asphalt,
right: new multi-functional asphalt, (easy to get dry!)

Old stuff, here in Holland for over a decade or so, it is called ZOAB Zeer Open Asfalt Beton or very open asphalt concrete.

We also have very silent open asphalt concrete which absorps the noise made by cartyres.
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Old October 13th, 2005, 11:19 PM   #36
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funny.... all of the americans that are ALWAYS at odds with the europeans vote for concrete, bc the saddening US freeways are all concrete.

these guys will do ANYTHING not to agree with these european/canadian "fereigners."

you love the sound it makes.... *blump blump blump blump blump blump for an hour* yah what a conclusive arguement.

"I PICK CONCRETE BC IT SOUNDS COOLER!" sheesh...

i appreciate guys like czm3, who point out ACTUAL deficiencies in asphalt, thank you for being objective czm3

anyways i pick asphalt...


Heh, it's not an American thing, I just love freeways and roads with concrete better. Actually I've noticed in Houston and Dallas they are using concrete on not just freeways but streets and I love the feel and sound of concrete.

Also I think it's better for the rain since it has those groves that make the lovely noise concrete freeways make.

Even as a kid I've loved concrete freeways but at the time I wasn't sure why some highways made the noise and feel and others didn't and now as a driver I love it even more.

What I hate about asphalt is those roads that seem to have an ultra smooth worn down surface and when it rains I feel like the car's going to slip right off the road.

I also have to add that I LOVE when they pave a road with the very coarse, almost gravel like asphalt because that's such a great sound too.


So it's all about the concrete whistle "whooooooo, clunk, clunk, whooooooo, clunk, clunk, whooooooo"

and the coarse asphalt "grrrrrrrrrrrgrumblegrumblegrrrrrrrrrrrrgrumblegrumblegrrrrrrrrr"


.........ok I'm weird.

I have to add that I was on Interstate 10 in Lousiana once and they paveed it with concrete that had lots of cracks so I was in heaven listening to a very faint "whoooooooooo" mixed in with a constant "clack, clack, clack, clack, clack...."
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Old October 14th, 2005, 03:49 AM   #37
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Old stuff, here in Holland for over a decade or so, it is called ZOAB Zeer Open Asfalt Beton or very open asphalt concrete.

We also have very silent open asphalt concrete which absorps the noise made by cartyres.

Japan also has used 'open asphalt' for more than a decade in the whole country.
There're many kinds of 'open asphalts' as you know,
In Japan, drainagae open asphalt has been used mainlly for highways, and permeable open asphalt for pedestrian ways.
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Old October 14th, 2005, 12:11 PM   #38
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In any form, it is superb! Much safer during rain.
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Old October 15th, 2005, 12:29 AM   #39
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in france
a site with french autoroute picture (in french)

http://franceautoroutes.free.fr/accueil.php
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Old October 16th, 2005, 01:52 PM   #40
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im sorry guys but i have to go with concrete,just dont know why ?

well maybe because concrete is more durable,
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