The Strait of Messina Bridge - The longest suspension Bridge in the world (3300m)

[brick84]

The mafia (and 'ndrangheta), however, can not be an excuse for not building the bridge.
How well do you know the Mafia in virtually all public works. So we do, we block all works?

To prevent infiltration of organized crime in the work of the bridge were taken many precautions, for example.

Protocollo antimafia adottato per il cantiere di Cannitello:

http://www.filca.cisl.it/online/wp-c...Cannitello.pdf

http://ssai.interno.it/download/alle...cecompleto.pdf

[vittorio tauber]

Originally Posted by Suburbanist

Those who oppose the bridge are maffiosi (not getting their cut), outdated, NIMBYs, or just plain stuck in the past.

They would probably whine about a glorious past when Sicily depended on mining and so...

The stubbornest endorsers of the Bridge (disregarding whatever cost-benefit analysis) are exactly the ones whining about a glorious past when Sicily depended on mining - and more ludicrous claims about good ol' times.

[Peloso]

Here's for the "private capitals":
http://inchieste.repubblica.it/it/re...1/&ref=HREC1-7
And here's for the "protocolli antimafia":
http://inchieste.repubblica.it/it/re...te-37270871%2F

Google-translate the texts, they're worth it.

[brick84]

Passera, "Bridge on the Strait is not a priority '
The Minister of Economic Development, Corrado Passera, speaking on "Radio I," on Radiouno Rai


CATANIA - The Bridge on the Strait of Messina is not a priority. He said the Minister of Economic Development, Corrado Passera, speaking on "Radio I," on Radiouno Rai. "There is a definite option, I do not consider him among the priority infrastructure which dedicate," he said.
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http://corrieredelmezzogiorno.corrie...63882349.shtml


Goodby bridge...
stupid politics.

[ParadiseLost]

Originally Posted by brick84

Passera, "Bridge on the Strait is not a priority '
The Minister of Economic Development, Corrado Passera, speaking on "Radio I," on Radiouno Rai


CATANIA - The Bridge on the Strait of Messina is not a priority. He said the Minister of Economic Development, Corrado Passera, speaking on "Radio I," on Radiouno Rai. "There is a definite option, I do not consider him among the priority infrastructure which dedicate," he said.
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http://corrieredelmezzogiorno.corrie...63882349.shtml


Goodby bridge...
stupid politics.

How on earth could Italy support such a massive hugely expensive bridge with the massive cuts and economic problems going on? And hardheaded European politicians who have given no inclination the last few years of having any interest in solving these problems? Honestly if you couldn't see this coming 100 miles away you were deluding yourselves.

[joseph1951]

Originally Posted by ParadiseLost

How on earth could Italy support such a massive hugely expensive bridge with the massive cuts and economic problems going on? And hardheaded European politicians who have given no inclination the last few years of having any interest in solving these problems?

Honestly if you couldn't see this coming 100 miles away you were deluding yourselves.

Yes, "deluding",and although Brick84 and friends have been told so for over 7 years, they are still "unconvinced".

[joseph1951]

[QUOTE=Peloso;91885998]Jim, there's the bridge in astract, and there's the bridge as a real manufact. The bridge in astract is a good thing, i. e. connecting Sicily with the mainland is a worthy goal. The bridge as a real manufact, in Italy's actual situation, with the Straits' actual seismic condition, with Italy's current mafia rule (and I don't only mean "classic" mafia, but political and entrepreneurial corruption as well), with the absence of real control by the citizens on what's been done, would be a CATASTROPHE.
That's why sensible people don't want it built now, in the actual conditions. But then again, to build something you would need a project. There's no project as of now. No project, get it? Only drawings that in any section of these forums would be classified as a "vision" and nothing more (and that's a good thing since the proposed bridge is probably beyond what's allowed by physics even in a non-seismic area). Yet they started the accessory works, see why I and many others call this a monumental scam?[/QUOTE]



Quote!

[brick84]

STRAITS BRIDGE: CIUCCI, THE LAW REQUIRES WE CONTINUE TO


The law requires that we go ahead with the project. The CEO of the company, Strait of Messina, Pietro Ciucci, responds well, at the presentation to Parliament the report of the Supervisory Authority on public contracts, when asked what the situation after the Minister for Economic Development and Infrastructure, Corrado Passera, said that the completion of the bridge is not a priority.
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http://www.imgpress.it/notizia.asp?i...45&idsezione=2

[Jim856796]

Forget it, this is stupid, I'm not gonna reply anymore, I'm just gonna stay off this thread, because conflicts will be started or will get worse. Messina Strait Bridge is nothing but a f***ed up visionary project, and the stupid Mafia is a dictatorship. Bridge should be put on hold indefinitely because of italy's financial crisis.

[brick84]

The project goes forward:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...40050&page=812

[Ruston]

That's simply the state-owned Stretto di Messina company that affirms that will goes on with the Additional Environmental Evaluations - required by Environment Ministry.
From an operative point of vue- means nothing.

The main problem is rather prosaic : how find the funds, given that neither Italian state nor local authorities have the money or the real possibility of draining low-interest loans on international markets?
With current long-term interest rates of italy's bonds no economic future is feasible about the bridge.

[brick84]

Yes, we know very well that the problem is to find the funds. (and weird that you always find in other works in Italy)

Was to underline how, despite the statement by the Minister Passera ('bridge is not priority'), the project goes ahead anyway.

[brick84]

The Bridge on the Strait of Messina - EUROLINK

[brick84]

For now only render
(waiting...)

Originally Posted by TRINACRIA FELIX

[Strait City]

Any news or update on this bridge? Or has it been put back on the shelf again?

[brick84]

The second you said.

The government has not officially decided, but it seems little interested in the bridge.
It 'been said that in the next' stability law 'will be discussed.

[pagey17]

Europe needs a project like this

[Sal73x]

Originally Posted by pagey17

Europe needs a project like this

Really??

[brick84]

Strait Bridge, government decision in the next few days, says minister


Monday, October 8, 2012

(Reuters) - The final decision on the bridge over the Straits of Messina coming in a few days, probably on the occasion of the stability law.

This was stated by Mario Ciaccia, vice minister of Infrastructure and Transport.

Speaking on the sidelines of the press conference of presentation of the exhibition 'The Architecture of the World', at the Milan Triennale, Ciaccia said that the decision will come "in the next few days, I think on the occasion of the stability law.'ll Have to see if one of the priorities priorities. I merely observe that a work is no longer funded by the European Union. "

Ciaccia, who stressed that the present work will cost 8, to 8.5 billion €, he added that "if you decide not to make the bridge, it is my opinion that resources should go to the regions, Sicily and Calabria. Not we have to divert resources from the South. "

Impregilo is the general contractor for the construction of the bridge over the Straits of Messina. The group has a 45% share of the special purpose company (Eurolink) which includes Sacyr (with a share of 18.7%), Italian Society Pipes (15%), Cooperativa CMC (13%), Ishikawajma-Harima Heavy Industries (6.30%) and Aci Consortium Stable group Gavio (2%). The company is Cowi designer.

[brick84]

Stability Law: no to the bridge over the Strait of Messina
A cancellation fee of 300 million will be paid to the Consortium
that would create the infrastructure


MESSINA - The Monti government has launched the Stability Law in order to ensure a balanced budget in 2013, eliminating the risk of increased VAT by two points. Among the cuts is also the Strait of Messina in which you can say goodbye.
The definitive no to build the infrastructure will cost € 300 million to be set aside to pay contractual penalties to the consortium that would build the work.
The news comes out of the approval of the draft Stability Law which states:'' The Development Fund and the Cohesion 'allocated a budget of € 300 million extra for the year 2013 to cope with the burdens of the failure to implement interventions for which there are legal titles perfected on the date of entry into force of this Act.'' In the text, it is explained that this is the penalty for the bridge over the Strait.

In recent days, the government had initiated the conference services for the eventual approval of the environmental impact assessment of the final design. The environment minister, Corrado Clini, was quick to point out that it was a necessary act, but that the government had still definanziato the construction of the bridge. Now the inclusion in the law of stability 300 million to cope with the amount to pay in the event of termination of contract.

http://corrieredelmezzogiorno.corrie...91517858.shtml