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Old October 15th, 2005, 12:31 PM   #1
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Should politicians disclose their drug habits

Everyone will be aware of David Cameron being undermined by his enemies over this drugs issue, ie he says it's his private life and in the past and is of no concern now.

I personally don't have a problem with anyone who has taken drugs (I'm about the only person I know who hasn't) but I think it is best you are honest and say "I've taken them, it's in the past and I haven't done so for years but I do understand why kids take them etc".

What I do hate though is the way the media are prancing about him like wolfs when I bet most of them have taken them and take them to this day (I hate hypocrits).
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Old October 15th, 2005, 12:32 PM   #2
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I tried posting a poll with this but messed it up (sorry).
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Old October 15th, 2005, 12:33 PM   #3
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We don't want the next future Prime Minister of Great Britain, making national decisions after they've just had a spliffy do we?
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Old October 15th, 2005, 01:45 PM   #4
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Well it may have stopped Blair going to war.
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Old October 15th, 2005, 02:27 PM   #5
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I think anything an MP did before becoming an MP is their business, but anything illegal they do after becoming an MP is fair game (but I don't include adultery etc in that bracket).

I think the mud-slinging at David Cameron is pretty shitty, especially the "Shock horror... a close family member is a former Smackhead!"... so the fuck what?

I think a Tory Leader who admits to dabbling a bit with drugs at Uni would be quite popular and a modernising factor for the Tories... after all most of the young electorate have done the same.

What I do dislike is hypocrisy, e.g. Michael Portillo campaigning against an Equal Age of Consent for Gays whilst (allegedly) being a raving bender himself.

I think any MP in office should obey the law of the land, and that includes not taking drugs. If they can't keep from breaking the law, what hope is there for the rest of us? (I also think that any law-breaking should result in the instant loss of their seat).

Politicians should be whiter than white (yeah right!)
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Old October 15th, 2005, 02:42 PM   #6
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Sadly its a fact that a hell of a lot of teenagers have smoked weed at least, and I know several personally. He should just admit it, but it disgusts me that the media are asking questions like this. Fact of the matter is, they are scared of Davis and Cameron, so try and discredit them. There was nothing wrong with Davis's speech, sure there wasn't a gag every other second, who gives a shit. Hes got the ideas, the intelligence and the integrity to do a damn good job.
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Old October 15th, 2005, 02:51 PM   #7
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Sadly its a fact that a hell of a lot of teenagers have smoked weed at least, and I know several personally. He should just admit it, but it disgusts me that the media are asking questions like this. Fact of the matter is, they are scared of Davis and Cameron, so try and discredit them. There was nothing wrong with Davis's speech, sure there wasn't a gag every other second, who gives a shit. Hes got the ideas, the intelligence and the integrity to do a damn good job.
think the cameron thing is about cocaine not cannabis.
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Old October 15th, 2005, 06:54 PM   #8
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think the cameron thing is about cocaine not cannabis.
Yes and Journalists using Charly is unheard of...

The savage hounding of first Kate Moss and now Mr Cameron makes me sick. Hypocritical scum-leeches.

Run a finger across any toilet cistern lid in any Newspaper office and you'll no doubt find half a ton of the stuff.
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Old October 15th, 2005, 06:59 PM   #9
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Yes and Journalists using Charly is unheard of...

The savage hounding of first Kate Moss and now Mr Cameron makes me sick. Hypocritical scum-leeches.

Run a finger across any toilet cistern lid in any Newspaper office and you'll no doubt find half a ton of the stuff.
How good would that be as a counter story run by who I don't know, but a story of under cover reporters doing cocaine checks in the loos of the Sun, Mirror and most of all the Mail.
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Old October 15th, 2005, 07:06 PM   #10
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Yes and Journalists using Charly is unheard of...

The savage hounding of first Kate Moss and now Mr Cameron makes me sick. Hypocritical scum-leeches.

Run a finger across any toilet cistern lid in any Newspaper office and you'll no doubt find half a ton of the stuff.
yep it is shit, and they can't even use the excuse that Cameron is draconian on drugs therefore he is a bit of a hypocrite, as he actually has a sensible drugs policy.
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Old October 16th, 2005, 03:29 AM   #11
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Sadly its a fact that a hell of a lot of teenagers have smoked weed at least, and I know several personally. He should just admit it, but it disgusts me that the media are asking questions like this. Fact of the matter is, they are scared of Davis and Cameron, so try and discredit them. There was nothing wrong with Davis's speech, sure there wasn't a gag every other second, who gives a shit. Hes got the ideas, the intelligence and the integrity to do a damn good job.
I think Davis would be another IDS - mousey mousey.

I think whatever Cameron did before his political life should remain private, shame once again on the terrible tabloid press for trying to sway the public view
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I hate how the press always blows this sort of thing out of all proportions, the vast majority of the population has absolutly no interest in whether the politician in question has puffed on the odd spliff while they where at uni

It annoys me because there is so much more interesting and important news going on in the world and they choose to focus on somthing as petty and boring as this
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Old October 16th, 2005, 04:07 AM   #13
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Conservative leadership candidate David Davis has intensified the pressure on his rival, David Cameron, over the use of drugs.

Mr Davis said in a Channel 4 interview he did not believe anyone who had used hard drugs in the recent past would be suitable to succeed Michael Howard.

Mr Cameron has refused to answer drug questions, saying only that he had a "normal university experience."

He also said that politicians were "only human".

After newspaper stories regarding a relative of his who had received treatment for heroin addiction, Mr Cameron asked the media to exercise restraint as the situation was not connected to his leadership bid.

In an interview on Channel 4's Morgan and Platell programme, to be broadcast on Saturday, Mr Davis was asked if Class A drug users could lead the Tory party or the country.

He replied: "I think if... well, it is a breach of the law, so if it was recent, the answer would be no."

Mr Davis repeated that he had never taken drugs, adding: "The whole idea of drugs makes me nervous."

Asked whether politicians should give "straight answers to straight questions", he replied: "Yes."

Mr Cameron - bookies' favourite to land the Tory job - is under pressure to say if he has ever taken drugs.

He refused to answer the question on BBC One's Question Time on Thursday.

After the newspaper article about his relative, Mr Cameron said he was "very proud" of the person's efforts to kick the drug but hoped they would be "left alone" by the media.

Mr Cameron has backed the relaxation of drug laws and in 2002 said diamorphine - the medical name for heroin - should be prescribed to addicts "to stabilise them" and help wean them off drugs.
twat. in some respects, this is a boost for Cameron, he has people's sympathies, and some of the other candidates are being shown to be not very nice people at all.
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Old October 17th, 2005, 09:37 AM   #14
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Why not just answer the fucking question though? I hate it when politicians dance around simple yes or no questions, and answer something which suits them. If you're going to run the country, you answer whatever questionsa re put to you. Is anyone really going to give a shit if he's had a bliff 30 years ago?

Everyone's on fucking drugs anyway. I saw Davis on Dimbleby yestersday,. who is 'frightened of drugs'. What?! I bet he;'s had a few pints in his time, the hypocriktical shite. Everyone's fucking taken (illegal) drugs too. This shit with Kate Moss.... show me a supermodel that's never had cocaine!?!?

Load of crap. It's just a bit of fun.
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Old October 17th, 2005, 10:06 AM   #15
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Robbie Williams said in an interview he has personally done coke with half the journalists who wrote the Kate Moss stories.

Does anyone remember the Brits one time when Mrs Merton presented an award, she said 'before I start, there is a little boy who is lost, His name is Charlie and there are a lot of people asking after him backstage'.....

35% of Britons have tried some form of drugs. upwards of 10% have tried class A drugs.

The problem isn't with the media, its with the drugs laws which insist on criminalising around 20 million people.
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Indeed, if people use drugs and then don't infringe on other people's rights, there's no point in criminalising their behaviour. And those who do cross the law can always be caught for doing so. But hey, that would be too simple wouldn't it?
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Old October 17th, 2005, 12:28 PM   #17
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drugs, dependency, crime, the cycle of poverty, it all goes down hill. Not to mention mental illness. The fact you need to take drugs to have a good time obviously shows ills in society. We're all misreable buggers.
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Old October 17th, 2005, 03:53 PM   #18
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Nonsense. The majority of drug users don't need it to have a good time. I'm glad you're not police of the world, what's next? We're ill because we "need" recreational sex and don't just use it for procreation? Please.
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35% of Britons have tried some form of drugs. upwards of 10% have tried class A drugs.

I believe that is a very conservative estimate, I would expect it to be far higher, especially the latter stat.
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Why not just answer the fucking question though? I hate it when politicians dance around simple yes or no questions, and answer something which suits them. If you're going to run the country, you answer whatever questionsa re put to you. Is anyone really going to give a shit if he's had a bliff 30 years ago?

Everyone's on fucking drugs anyway. I saw Davis on Dimbleby yestersday,. who is 'frightened of drugs'. What?! I bet he;'s had a few pints in his time, the hypocriktical shite. Everyone's fucking taken (illegal) drugs too. This shit with Kate Moss.... show me a supermodel that's never had cocaine!?!?

Load of crap. It's just a bit of fun.
i don't think he should answer the question, the question shouldn't be asked in the first place and answering it just gives it credibility and viability.
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