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Old October 25th, 2005, 09:37 PM   #21
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I can't see the pics, but from what I have seen of VIVA, it looks pretty good.
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Old October 25th, 2005, 09:43 PM   #22
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very euro
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Old October 25th, 2005, 09:51 PM   #23
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Sorry, can't see the pics. Please don't use photobucket. There are other free hosts that don't have such restrictive bandwidth limits (such as imageshack).
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Old October 25th, 2005, 09:56 PM   #24
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Can't see the pics, but have seen Viva in real life, it does looks pretty European .
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Old October 25th, 2005, 10:07 PM   #25
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too bad he went over the limit, i guess i am partially responsible, lol.

anyway here are 4 pics that actually work, they will have to do for now.







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Old October 25th, 2005, 11:55 PM   #26
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Very nice buses!
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Old October 26th, 2005, 07:52 AM   #27
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There is a thread about VIVA in this section with more photos : http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=259575
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Old October 26th, 2005, 08:11 AM   #28
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I wish ttc buses were like that
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Old October 26th, 2005, 11:16 PM   #29
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VIVA is sick....there is free wifi connection on the busses!!
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Old October 26th, 2005, 11:48 PM   #30
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too bad he went over the limit, i guess i am partially responsible, lol.

anyway here are 4 pics that actually work, they will have to do for now.







Same Bus than Montreal RTL

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Old October 27th, 2005, 01:24 AM   #31
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They're called BRTs.
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Old October 27th, 2005, 01:37 AM   #32
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i like... but i wanted lrt more. especially along hwy 7. but seein that they have so much usage now i hope they implement stage 3 sooner!

nice touch how they made viva york u in red and the older historic areas in black.
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Old October 27th, 2005, 01:54 AM   #33
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^ Highway 7 cannot support LRT. Too low density and ridership. I would have like that they started with a transitways first though. They don't even have bus lanes yet, so it is not BRT, it is just express bus.
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Old October 27th, 2005, 03:37 AM   #34
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Wow, talk about incredibly lousy planning.
York has only become very populated in the last 25 years ago or so. Imagine if they had just put aside thin corridors thruout the region for future transit corridors how much money and time they would have saved.
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Old December 20th, 2005, 05:23 PM   #35
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Long live Viva, transit riders say
Kevin McGran
Toronto Star
20 December 2005

Roman Zaiembo figures he cuts an hour off his trip to York University, all because of Viva, York Region's bus rapid transit system.

The region's established public transit - YRT - was so unreliable, Zaiembo would often be late for class or stuck outside waiting to transfer between buses.

So - like so many others in the 905 regions - he would often drive. Now, because transit in York Region is revamped, he takes the bus every day.

"It's pretty good," says Zaiembo. "It's fast, it's reliable."

Better words were never spoken, as far as Mary Frances Turner is concerned. Turner is the vice president of the York Rapid Transit Corporation - the region-owned entity that's developing the Viva bus service as a precursor to light rail. Together, Viva and YRT comprise the region's transit system. Like a bus feeding a subway, YRT patrols neighbourhoods, delivering commuters to key feeder points along Highway 7 and Yonge St. where Viva promises a bus every 5 to 10 minutes in rush hour, 15 minutes the rest of day.

Early numbers for York Region public transit use are very encouraging, with 19.5 per cent more people riding buses since Viva's debut after Labour Day.

In September and October of 2004, 2.8 million people boarded YRT buses. For the same two months in 2005, 3.4 million boarded YRT and Viva buses, 600,000 more boardings. Up to 20 per cent of that 600,000 - 120,000 - may be double-counted by the free transfer between YRT and Viva, leaving 480,000 new boardings attributable to new beefed up bus service, a number in itself 30 per cent higher than Viva officials had hoped for.

"These are extremely healthy statistics showing increases in ridership," says Turner.

And on Yonge St. alone, where Viva's "Blue" line joined YRT's No. 99 line, overall transit ridership is up 33.9 per cent for October. Transit use along Highway 7 has spiked 25.4 per cent over last year.

"We're really excited about what's happening," says Turner. "These are really new riders."

Other cities have introduced Viva-type service, but haven't had this kind of success this quickly. It took Oakland, Calif., one year, Boston 18 months, Vancouver two years and Los Angeles three years to see a 30 per cent ridership gain in corridors similar to Yonge St.

"And we haven't even implemented the whole program yet," says York Region chairman Bill Fisch. "All of our studies showed that there's pent up demand (for transit) and now we've got to capture it."

At a cost of $180 million, Viva's five colour-coded, frequent-service bus routes rolled out in September, linking Vaughan, Markham and Newmarket through Richmond Hill and to Toronto at York University, Downsview subway station, Finch station and Don Mills station.

On Jan. 1, the last of the Viva service opens - the "Pink" line - between Unionville GO station and Finch subway station.

To be sure, some riders new to Viva and YRT have migrated from GO Transit, which withdrew service so as not to compete with Viva. But GO redeployed buses to other areas clamouring for service, meaning a net gain of new riders GTA-wide.

The arrival of Viva - bringing much-needed beefed-up transit service to an area sadly lacking in it - might have been the greatest leap forward for transit in the Greater Toronto Area in 2005. But 2006 holds more promise including:

The province plans to introduce legislation - likely next month - creating a Greater Toronto Transportation Authority, which would prioritize new transportation projects. On Jan. 1, Durham Region will begin operating as one transit system, amalgamating Ajax-Pickering, Whitby, Oshawa and Clarington transit. Efficiencies will create cost savings, while commuters can look for better east-west transit lines. Durham hopes to emulate what York did five years earlier.

Brampton searches for funding solutions for AcceleRide, its Viva-like service.

GO Transit forges ahead with rail expansion projects on all fronts. This will mean more frequent service on the Lakeshore line, and all-day two way service on the north-south lines.

The TTC faces stiff opposition in the form of legal challenges to its plan to run streetcars in their own lanes down the centre of St. Clair Ave. W. The TTC dearly wants this project to go ahead, using it as a template to bring streetcar-only and bus-only lanes to other major thoroughfares.

The TTC also battles funding demons - can a fare hike be far off? - as it has raised expectations of building new subways in Scarborough and to York University.

A subway to York University - if it's ever built - will have its final stop in Vaughan, either just north of Steeles Ave. or a little further north. It would be the first time the subway would cross the 416-905 border, and is a big part of York Region's growth plans - something a GTTA would surely smile upon.

That area is very much the geographic centre of the GTA. A major employment hub, near all the major highways and Pearson International Airport, the area cries out for a Union Station-like TTC-GO-Viva hub and a subway station north of Steeles would make that possible.

That hope is very much part of York Region's plans. But there are still some hiccups with Viva:

It's too early for numbers, but the western end of Viva - from Martin Grove toYork University - appears to have low ridership. Turner says that's because residents in the area aren't used to such frequent transit service.

Expansion eastward to the new community of Cornell is now at least 18 months behind schedule because local homeowners and businesses rejected a bus terminal in their community.

A much-needed bridge over railway tracks linking Viva's main terminal at Richmond Hill Centre to GO's Langstaff station is delayed, and probably won't be built till next fall.

Expansion eastward to the new community of Cornell is now at least 18 months behind schedule because local homeowners and businesses rejected a bus terminal in their community.
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Old December 20th, 2005, 05:41 PM   #36
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Looks good, almost as good as Curitiba.
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Old December 21st, 2005, 07:59 AM   #37
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Impressive!! While reading on VIVA, I found out bout another project named AccleRide which is supposed to be a BRT at Brampton.. Does anyone have any info bout that??
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Old December 21st, 2005, 10:29 AM   #38
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Seem to that student is the major communter for VIVA
heh, Translink uses the same advertisement for the U-Pass program (univ student ~$90 4 month pass)
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Old December 21st, 2005, 04:50 PM   #39
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This looks great. I'm in Toronto at the moment, and have seen lots of viva buses. Are they allowed to pick up and drop people off within the city of Toronto?
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Old December 22nd, 2005, 05:53 AM   #40
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^ Not likely, the relationship/condition that VIVA buses run under is likely identical to that which Mississauga and Brampton Transits must adhere to, which states that from the boundary to the station they may not pick anyone up (but may drop people off) and from the station to the border they may not drop anyone off. This allows them to take people from their city to the other and back, but not do inner-city transit outside of their own. It's a garbage system that probably isn't well enforced on the latter, but the former is apparently well-enforced by the transit staff. The problem is it is difficult to keep people from getting off the bus as opposed to getting on, however who in their right mind would pay for a MT ride within Toronto, anyway? The city really doesn't like having other transit systems' buses increasing the congestion on arterial roads, it is a prickly issue in some districts (like Etobicoke West).
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