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Old November 2nd, 2005, 02:59 AM   #21
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Three visions unveiled for Kai Tak's future
2 November 2005
South China Morning Post

Officials designing the development of the old Kai Tak airport site have come up with three proposals - all with the number of flats drastically reduced from previous expectations.

With no reclamation needed under the new plans, the population at the old airport and surrounding area could drop to as low as 69,000, compared with more than 320,000 originally estimated with reclamation in mind.

The government originally planned to reclaim 133 hectares of the harbour as part of the Southeast Kowloon project to transform the area into a high-density residential area a decade ago. Officials later changed their mind and proposed a sports city or a low-density green town.

Today the Harbourfront Enhancement Committee will discuss the three new proposals. All three contain several common features - a 45,000 capacity stadium, a cruise terminal and waterfront promenade.

Under the proposals, the stadium would have a retractable roof that would make the venue suitable for different sporting events, while the cruise terminal would feature two berths and other tourism-related facilities.

The lowest density proposal is the Sports by the Harbour plan, which caters for a 69,000 population. The residential area would be centred around the stadium along the old Kai Tak runway.

Commercial areas at the site - such as offices, hotels and shops - would be the workplace for 56,000 people. But if the government adopts the Kai Tak Glamour plan, the number of people working there would be pushed to 75,000 with residential areas large enough to accommodate 97,000.

This business-oriented plan would see prime locations at the site designated as business areas, with premier office buildings taking centre stage. Flats would fill the remainder of main locations.

The third plan, the City in the Park proposal, would be the opposite of the business hub plan. Residential areas would take the best locations, with business facilities taking a back seat. About 128,000 people could be fitted into the area that would offer just 32,000 jobs.

The three proposals are the results of the committee's public consultation exercise staged earlier in the year. Further consultation is expected.
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Old November 3rd, 2005, 02:56 AM   #22
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We might be forced to reclaim Kai Tak nullah, engineer warns
3 November 2005
South China Morning Post

Reclamation may still be necessary at the former airport site if engineers cannot find a way to clean up the filthy Kai Tak nullah, advisers on harbour development were told yesterday. The answer will only be known next summer.

None of the three concept plans for redeveloping the former airport site involve reclamation.

But Talis Wong Chung-sang, the engineering department's acting chief engineer for Kowloon, said experiments were still being conducted to see whether it was possible to go ahead without reclamation.

"The no-reclamation proposal is based on a number of assumptions, but it is possible they are wrong. We need further studies so we're not ruling out the possibility of reclamation," he said.

Hardy Lok, of the Society for Protection of the Harbour, said the government should tackle pollution instead of seeking reclamation.

The Harbourfront Enhancement Committee's Southeast Kowloon development review sub-group yesterday discussed the plans - dubbed City in the Park, Kai Tak Glamour and Sports by the Harbour by the Planning Department team that drew them up.

All contain several common features - a 24-hectare stadium able to seat 45,000, a cruise terminal and a waterfront promenade.

The "park" concept is largely a residential development plan that would be able to house up to 128,000 people.

Commercial high-rises for offices and hotels are included in the "glamour" plan, under which homes for 97,000 people would be built and employment for 75,000 created. The "sports" plan has the lowest development density, with a plot ratio as low as two, a population of 69,000 and jobs for 56,000.

The government had proposed reclaiming 133 hectares of land at Kai Tak, giving the site a population of 260,000. But it was forced to review the plan after the Court of Final Appeal ruling on reclamation in Wan Chai.

Apart from reclamation, the harbour advisers were concerned about the stadium and the cruise terminal.

They questioned the logic of the massive stadium and the cruise terminal and demanded the government justify why they must be at Kai Tak when they would take up such a large chunk of land.

Officials from the Home Affairs Bureau and the Tourism Commission insisted the two features must be built at Kai Tak.

Kim Chan Kim-on, a representative of the Hong Kong Institute of Planners, said officials should provide a concept plan free of the two features for the public to assess.

The sub-group's chairman, Chan Wai-kwan, called on the public to comment on the elements of the plans. Public consultation on the plans will begin next week and last until the end of December.

"These are just concept plans; they are not options that the public is obliged to choose," Mr Chan said. "I hope they will comment on the elements presented.

"The subcommittee doesn't think there is a consensus among the public, especially on the stadium. The government needs to convince the public the stadium and the cruise terminal are essential and must be placed in Kai Tak."
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Old November 3rd, 2005, 06:08 PM   #23
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Which plan do u like??
1, 2 or 3?

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Old November 3rd, 2005, 06:24 PM   #24
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Amazing development zone, its a big area to be used, somethign HK needs!
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I like the Glamour plan.

Reason:
-good population number
-new landmarks can be built
-fulfills need for grade A offices
-speeds up the urban renewal of Kwun Tong district.
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Cruise hub tender 'just for the big developers'
Activist says only those with waterfront land will be interested in ship terminal

4 November 2005
South China Morning Post

Expressions of interest were sought yesterday for construction of a cruise terminal in a long-awaited move to turn the city into a regional cruise hub.

But the planned open tender was swiftly criticised as the exclusive province of big property developers with land along the waterfront.

The document, issued by the Tourism Commission, invites developers to propose building the terminal on any piece of government land on Victoria Harbour apart from the site designated for the West Kowloon arts hub.

The government said that if no other suitable location was proposed it would go ahead with its original plan for a terminal at the old Kai Tak airport site.

In an echo of the highly controversial approach used for West Kowloon, construction and management of the terminal will be granted to the winning bidder.

Residential development is not permitted as part of the project and the developer will have to provide convincing reasons for any reclamation.

Shopping malls, hotels and offices will be permitted, however, prompting harbour activists to slam it as a property development in the name of a cruise terminal.

Citizen Envisioning @Harbour convenor Albert Lai Kwong-tak asked why the government had left the choice of site up to the developers.

"This is not the normal planning procedure and an affront to the planning officials," said Mr Lai. "Only those with land along the waterfront where the value would be enhanced by a cruise terminal will be interested in the project. And with all the technical and engineering studies proponents need to submit, only the biggest and the richest can afford this game."

Developers have until the end of this year to declare an interest, but companies that do not join this exercise will still be able to take part in the tender when it is launched.

The terminal must have at least one berth capable of accommodating the world's largest liner - the 345-metre long Queen Mary II.

Proponents have to submit technical documents to prove the proposed location is feasible and suitable, and that the terminal could be completed before 2011.

Design of the terminal must be compatible with the surrounding areas and take into account public aspirations for the harbour.

In a press release, the government said: "We need to verify if there are suitable locations other than Kai Tak that may enable an earlier development of a cruise terminal to meet the needs of the tourism industry.

"If we cannot identify a suggestion that could meet all our requirements through the expression of interest, the government would not consider any sites other than Kai Tak and would focus on developing a new cruise terminal at Kai Tak."

Cheung Kong (Holdings) proposed last summer to turn a long strip of government land on the Hunghom waterfront, including two hotel sites it owns, into a tourism spot with berthing facilities for international cruise ships.

The property giant, which has a strong property portfolio in the area, declined to comment. A spokeswoman for Wharf Holdings, owner of the city's only cruise terminal, said the group would study the government document in detail before making any decision.
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Old November 4th, 2005, 08:21 PM   #27
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Cruise hub tender 'just for the big developers'
Activist says only those with waterfront land will be interested in ship terminal

4 November 2005
South China Morning Post

Expressions of interest were sought yesterday for construction of a cruise terminal in a long-awaited move to turn the city into a regional cruise hub.

But the planned open tender was swiftly criticised as the exclusive province of big property developers with land along the waterfront.

The document, issued by the Tourism Commission, invites developers to propose building the terminal on any piece of government land on Victoria Harbour apart from the site designated for the West Kowloon arts hub.

The government said that if no other suitable location was proposed it would go ahead with its original plan for a terminal at the old Kai Tak airport site.

In an echo of the highly controversial approach used for West Kowloon, construction and management of the terminal will be granted to the winning bidder.

Residential development is not permitted as part of the project and the developer will have to provide convincing reasons for any reclamation.

Shopping malls, hotels and offices will be permitted, however, prompting harbour activists to slam it as a property development in the name of a cruise terminal.

Citizen Envisioning @Harbour convenor Albert Lai Kwong-tak asked why the government had left the choice of site up to the developers.

"This is not the normal planning procedure and an affront to the planning officials," said Mr Lai. "Only those with land along the waterfront where the value would be enhanced by a cruise terminal will be interested in the project. And with all the technical and engineering studies proponents need to submit, only the biggest and the richest can afford this game."

Developers have until the end of this year to declare an interest, but companies that do not join this exercise will still be able to take part in the tender when it is launched.

The terminal must have at least one berth capable of accommodating the world's largest liner - the 345-metre long Queen Mary II.

Proponents have to submit technical documents to prove the proposed location is feasible and suitable, and that the terminal could be completed before 2011.

Design of the terminal must be compatible with the surrounding areas and take into account public aspirations for the harbour.

In a press release, the government said: "We need to verify if there are suitable locations other than Kai Tak that may enable an earlier development of a cruise terminal to meet the needs of the tourism industry.

"If we cannot identify a suggestion that could meet all our requirements through the expression of interest, the government would not consider any sites other than Kai Tak and would focus on developing a new cruise terminal at Kai Tak."

Cheung Kong (Holdings) proposed last summer to turn a long strip of government land on the Hunghom waterfront, including two hotel sites it owns, into a tourism spot with berthing facilities for international cruise ships.

The property giant, which has a strong property portfolio in the area, declined to comment. A spokeswoman for Wharf Holdings, owner of the city's only cruise terminal, said the group would study the government document in detail before making any decision.
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Which of the three is the glamour plan?
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Old November 6th, 2005, 09:19 AM   #29
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Views sought on Kai Tak redevelopment

The three concepts proposed for redeveloping the former Kai Tak airport site do not involved reclamation, Planning Department's Kowloon District Planning Officer Raymond Lee says, adding the second round of consultation on the project will start on November 9.

Speaking on a radio talk show this morning, Mr Lee pointed out the no-reclamation proposal is based on the assumption the pollution at the Kai Tak nullah can be solved.

Reclamation will be the last resort if these environmental problems cannot be resolved, he added.

The blueprint, which is drawn up under three categories of development - dubbed City in the Park, Kai Tak Glamour and Sports by the Harbour - included an ocean liner terminal, parks, multi-purpose sports stadium and waterfront promenade.

Mr Lee stressed the proposals aim to arouse public discussion on the project and they are not obliged to choose from any of the three concepts.

He said a series of forums will be organised to hear the public's views of the plans, adding the consultation will end in January next year.
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Old November 7th, 2005, 02:56 AM   #31
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啟德變西九翻版
規劃不斷商業化 文化界聯手反對

07/11/2005

【記者楊瑞貞余志良報道】啟德規劃檢討將於本周三展開第二階段公眾諮詢,推出三個規劃概念,但沒有把鄰近的文化及歷史遺「時間廊」納入,反而增加了商業元素,惹起文化界不滿,直斥政府不斷加入商業元素,把啟德變成商業及地產項目,成為西九龍文娛藝術區翻版。據悉,文化界醞釀發起聯合行動,反對規劃建議。

啟德規劃檢討第二階段諮詢至明年一月結束,期間蒐集公眾對草擬概念規劃大綱圖的意見,除會舉行全港性及地區性的論壇外,亦會就個別題目例如多用途體育館舉行專題公眾論壇。

據悉,規劃署建議三個以「零填海」出發的方案中,「綠茵都市」以綠化為主,建議興建高密度住宅,可容納人口最多,共十二萬八千人;設商務中心及水幕繽紛的「魅力啟德」方案可創造的職位最多,共有七萬五千人,而該方案在創造職位、營商機會、旅遊推廣及土地收入方面,評定為有特佳表現。

第三個方案名為「體藝之都」,以運動為主題,除有大型體育館外,亦設啟德遊樂場及維港單車徑,更有環保育都會公園,但可容納人口則最低,只有六萬九千人。

團體轟變地產項目
實際上,規劃署最初拋出的概念包括了「啟德時間廊」方案,該方案包攬了鄰近的文化及歷史遺,例如把宋王臺、啟德指揮塔及機場博物館等,由古至今連成一線,但該方案卻沒列入諮詢的範圍內。

就規劃署即將進出的三個概念方案,文化團體表示不滿。本土文化再造主席林文輝直斥政府以商業掛帥,啟德規劃檢討三個方案均剔除了文化元素,最明顯是政府以商業味極濃的「魅力啟德」方案取代了「啟德時間廊」方案,根本要把啟德變成商業及地產項目。

據悉,文化界正醞釀聯手向政府提出反對,要求啟德規劃能夠納入文化的元素,不能純為商業收益出發。

林文輝說:「胡恩威、梁文道等文化人知道政府剔除文化元素後都顯得很氣憤,因為香港唔能夠單靠一個西九龍。文化界質疑點解政府唔理現有擺在面前的文化歷史,竟然去等一個唔知幾時先有歌劇院。」



郵輪碼頭泊位構思三減一
07/11/2005

【本報訊】啟德發展計畫的三個概念大綱圖中,都不約而同利用舊機場跑道作為郵輪碼頭選址,但泊位的數目和設計,因受景觀保護和「零填海」的規限而有所變動。碼頭泊位數目因遷就景觀,由最初構思的三個減至兩個,手指形泊位亦因避免填海而擱置,郵輪要沿岸停泊。

外界一直批評香港缺乏郵輪碼頭的設施,而政府和業界希望日後新建的郵輪碼頭,能提供較多泊位紓解不足,故早期拋出的方案中,曾有一個方案建議在跑道末端興建三個郵輪碼頭泊位。

但因興建三個泊位會令將來設於舊機場跑道的遊樂場和低密度住宅沿線景觀完全被阻擋,故最後推出的三個概念大綱圖中,只會設有兩個泊位,最多只阻擋一半景觀。

至於泊位設計亦因顧及「零填海」原則,三個概念都列明手指形泊位只是將來可能的構思,所有郵輪都要沿岸停泊。

另外,規劃署建議在跑道下面挖一條闊六百米的通道,務求令跑道與岸邊之間較窄的水域有海水流通,預期該水域日後可舉辦龍舟賽事及水上活動中心,能否成事要視乎水質能否合標準。
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Old November 9th, 2005, 09:35 PM   #32
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Kai Tak plans fail to impress

Government plans to redevelop Kai Tak were criticized Wednesday for lacking vision and failing to realize the potential of the scenic harborfront location of the former airport.

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Thursday, November 10, 2005





Government plans to redevelop Kai Tak were criticized Wednesday for lacking vision and failing to realize the potential of the scenic harborfront location of the former airport.

Three visions for the long-awaited multibillion dollar project were presented to the Town Planning Board at a planning review meeting, which commenced the administration's second phase of public consultation.

The formal unveiling of plans is sure to spark off months of debate over the appropriate use of the famous site.

Environmentalists have long wanted to see Kai Tak turned into a green zone, while developers have seen the former runway as a prime landing zone for a big-ticket project. Original plans for Kai Tak after it closed in 1998 involved reclamation of about 133 hectares, a residential population of 260,000 and 500 hotel rooms.

Under the "no-reclamation" proposals in the new plans, the population could fall as low as 69,000, while hotel rooms could number 9,000.

Though the plans presented emphasize different themes - residential, business and recreational, in the form of a Sports City - they share several common features such as a 45,000-capacity stadium, a cruise terminal and a waterfront promenade.

Some board members called for a wider range of proposals, saying the existing features are too "common."

"We hope public consultation will produce more ideas," said landscape architecture representative Wong Chi- kui. "We are working with familiar ideas, but we should use th
e land to showcase the harbor, not just for something with usual functions."

Wong said the SAR should follow the examples of cities like Sydney and Barcelona where harborfront areas have become a scenic showcase.

Architecture representative Alex Lui agreed, saying the proposed redevelopment did not take into account "the visual element."

However, a Planning Department spokesman stressed the draft concept plans were not development options, but were intended to provide a basis for public discussion on development proposals.

The administration also clarified confusion regarding the site of the cruise terminal after it was reported last week that bids for a cruise terminal in another location would be solicited.

The government said that although the government welcomed suggestions for an alternate site, Kai Tak would continue to be the main terminal site.

"We have consulted industries as to whether another site can offer an extra berth," a Tourism Commission spokesman said, "but for the long-term, Kai Tak is the only site that has space for expansion as a cruise terminal."

Members of the board were also concerned about the environmental impact of the proposals.

According to the administration, the residential-focused "City in the Park" concept plan would be the most environmentally harmful. On a scale of A to D - A being "very high performance" and D being "low performance" - the residential concept plan would score a D for both wastage of natural resources and deterioration of environmental quality, the administration said.

Board members were further disappointed at the lack of integration between the Kai Tak site and less-affluent neighboring areas, namely Kwun Tong and Ngau Tau Kok.

"I'm not happy with the road network around the airport," said architectural, surveying and planning functional constituency legislator Patrick Lau, who is also the vice chairman of the Town Planning Board. "They should link up to neighboring areas."

Social welfare representative Michael Lai said he was concerned about the potential impact of the Kai Tak project on surrounding areas.

"I would like to see a social impact assessment carried out next, so we know how [the project] will affect residents in the area," he said.

Other representatives agreed, saying that the administration's visual rendering of the plan was misleading and that it would be difficult for the public to make informed decisions. Board chairman Rita Lau acknowledged the visual renderings were unrealistic and said the administration will carry out further studies.

The Kai Tak site, which currently houses a golf driving range and a large mound of landfill, has been largely unused since the opening of Chek Lap Kok airport in July 1998.

The administration claims that the original plans, approved by the chief executive in 2002, were dropped in light of the Court of Final Appeal's ruling last year that reclamation must be justified by "overriding public need."

The government hopes to complete consultation in mid-2006 and begin construction in 2008, but has not yet provided a timetable for the project.

The multi-purpose stadium is not expected to be completed until 2015, at the earliest.

Total project costs also have not yet been disclosed. However a Home Affairs Bureau spokesperson said Wednesday that the stadium will cost about US$6,690 (HK$52,182) per seat.

The administration will continue to accept written suggestions until January 2006, when the second phase of consultation ends.
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I do suppose when I first saw those plans I was a bit disappointed, but then in the past, the SUPER URBAN plans were all rejected. What else can the Planning Bureau do to satisfy the tough criticisms from lobbyists? All I want now is to hurry up and build something on that land which is empty for 7 years. Also that WKD place which was empty for 10 years already. All of those great plans in the past have been REJECTED, yes REJECTED what else can the government do??? All we can do now is to hope that those pieces of valuble urban land will not be wasted on imagination. The imagination of how each and every single person. Action is more effective, so people, stop your criticisms and MOVE ON!!!
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very promising project, i hope they make good use of the land. oh yeah, leave room for at least one supertall
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the property developer have no interested on this land,so dozens of land planning project has been rejected.
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Old November 18th, 2005, 03:28 AM   #37
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The Kai Tak lands are contaminated. Add to that the effect of releasing a large amount of residential supply if all the lands are developed. It's unlikely anything will be built in the near future. It may be a good thing after all to wait to get it right before the shovels get into the ground.
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Old November 23rd, 2005, 08:31 PM   #39
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Flats ruled out at cruise terminal site

Residential development is incompatible with the proposed cruise terminal project at the harbor end of the former Kai Tak airport runway, Secretary for Economic Development and Labour Stephen Ip said Wednesday.

Michael Ng
Hong Kong Standard
Thursday, November 24, 2005

Residential development is incompatible with the proposed cruise terminal project at the harbor end of the former Kai Tak airport runway, Secretary for Economic Development and Labour Stephen Ip said Wednesday.
In a written reply to a question from pro-government lawmaker Cheung Hok-ming in the Legislative Council, Ip said the Kai Tak site is the most suitable location for a cruise terminal and must be compatible with other land uses nearby to meet town planning considerations.

"According to a study by our consultant, the terminal will be busy with ground handling activities - for example, embarkation and disembarkation of passengers, luggage handling, provisioning of supplies, minor repairs - and will need to operate 24 hours a day. The consultant considered that the terminal would be incompatible with residential development," Ip said.

He said the Planning Department is now inviting expressions of interest for the project as well as suggestions for alternative sites, and the government has specified that bids for the project must not include residential development.

However, other tourism-related facilities could be incorporated into the bids to make them more attractive to investors. "As the location of the cruise terminal has yet to be confirmed, the land use and planning details such as commercial floor area are not available at the moment," he said.

If the government cannot identify a site that can meet its requirements from those expressions of interest, Ip said it will then consider the Kai Tak site the only suitable option.

But if there are suggestions in line with the government's requirements, it will conduct an indepth study on the overall suitability of a proposed site for development of a new cruise terminal, and put the site to competitive bidding after public consultation.
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