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Old August 28th, 2013, 02:14 PM   #581
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Thanks for the explanation. But from the map below, there is the KwunTong line, which has stations by the name of Lok Fu, Kowloon Bay, Kowloon Tong, Diamond hill, etc. All of them pass by the area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_tr...#MTR_route_map

Are they going to build another underwater tunnel across the harbour, or will it use the existing lines?
Kai Tak and Kowloon City are not within walking distance near any of those stations.
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Any skyscrapers/highrises planned for Kai Tak?
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Any skyscrapers/highrises planned for Kai Tak?
Where HAECO and other utilities used to be, there are some buildings being built there..
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Old October 16th, 2013, 06:33 PM   #585
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It's moor the merrier after second liner hits Kai Tak
The Standard
Wednesday, October 16, 2013

More than 3,000 passengers arrived at Kai Tak Cruise Terminal yesterday - the second welcome landing since the facility opened four months ago.

Voyager of the Seas, operated by Royal Caribbean International, docked at about noon for a 13-hour stay before departing for the rest of its 17-day Asian cruise, ending in Singapore.

A Hong Kong man, Mr Ma, who now lives in Australia, said the terminal looks great and recalled how he felt embarrassed the last time when he was on a vessel that docked at Kwai Chung.

"It is also interesting that I used to board aircraft in Kai Tak years ago, and now I come back on a cruise," Ma said.

Rosemary Hankin, 68, a retired British medical worker, was visiting the SAR for the first time with her husband, who had been here once on business.

"I can't wait to see the lights at Victoria Harbour," she said last night.

Ground transportation has also been improved since the Mariner of the Seas berthed at Kai Tak in June.

Taxis are now allowed to enter the terminal to pick up and drop off passengers, and the number of shuttle buses has increased by 30percent.

But visitors and drivers said transport arrangements can be further improved.

"The staff on the cruise ship told us there would be a shuttle bus to The Peninsula, where I planned to have afternoon tea," a Russian tourist, named Nuria, said. "But it turns out there is no shuttle bus to Tsim Sha Tsui."

A taxi driver said he felt "misled" by the call center, which notified him t
hat there would be a lot of passengers from 7am. He arrived about 1pm, but the taxi queue was short.

"I wouldn't drive to the terminal if there were other passengers near the district during lunch hour," said Szeto Yuk- wah, as he waited for passengers.

Mr Koo, a minibus driver, said the shuttle buses arranged by the shopping malls appear to have drawn away many passengers.

"The government should also promote minibuses more."

Jeff Bent, managing director of Worldwide Cruise Terminals, said shuttle services were strengthened to carry passengers to nearby malls.

Bent said half of passengers joined the local tours while others visited the sights by themselves.
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Old November 3rd, 2013, 03:07 PM   #586
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Old November 5th, 2013, 04:57 PM   #587
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Longer walk to stations for some in skyrail bid
The Standard
Tuesday, October 29, 2013

Two of the 12 proposed skyrail stations in Kowloon East may be relocated to avoid service duplication with the Sha Tin to Central MTR link, now under construction.

The proposal concerning the link from Kai Tak Estate to Kowloon Bay is included in the latest public consultation on the development of the area, which ends on February 4.

However, Civil Engineering and Development Department chief engineer Ying Fun-fong said should the relocations go ahead those living at the Kai Tak and Tak Long estates will have to walk 300 to 400 meters further to their nearest station.

The head of the department's Kai Tak office, Sorais Lee Kwan Siu-kuen, said the new locations will benefit business development in the area.

The nine-kilometer elevated skyrail - due to be launched in 2023 - will go through Kowloon East, and cover the Kai Tak development area, Kowloon Bay and the Kwun Tong business area.

The plan also calls for cabins in each train to be increased from two to three to accommodate 375 passengers. It is expected around 200,000 passengers will use the service daily by 2031.

The consultation document also claims that the 30-hectare expanse of water in the Kwun Tong typhoon shelter has the potential to become a sports and leisure activity center.

The skyrail is set to use an environmentally friendly linkage system, but Lee could not say whether the MTR will do the same.

Nevertheless, fares on the skyrail will be the same as those on the MTR.

Lee expects the next consultation to begin in mid- 2014 and a detailed feasibility study to be conducted either in 2015 or 2016.
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1,000 extra flats may be squeezed into Kai Tak site
7 November 2013
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An ongoing government study into increasing office and housing space within the Kai Tak development area has suggested the site could provide 1,000 additional residential flats.

The extra homes could be squeezed in by easing construction restrictions and reducing flat sizes there, the development minister said yesterday.

The study is reviewing the development intensity (also known as plot ratio, calculated by dividing the net floor area of all buildings on a site by the net site area) of four housing sites in the North Apron area of Kai Tak.

"By increasing the intensity by 20 per cent and slightly reducing the size of each flat, the site could provide 1,000 more residential flats," Secretary for Development Paul Chan Mo-po told the Legislative Council yesterday.

Public consultation on the findings of the study will be sought in the middle of next year, when it is expected to be completed, Chan said.

The Civil Engineering and Development Department had proposed a relaxation of development intensity for three sites. Plot ratio would be rise from 4.5 to 5.5, and the buildings' maximum permitted height would rise by 20 metres.

The Housing Department proposes that the maximum plot ratio of the fourth site rise from 5 to 6 and the maximum permitted height would increase by 20 metres. The gross building area would be enlarged from 40 per cent to 50 per cent of the available site area.

"These proposals can provide an additional 33,900 metre square domestic gross floor area, which would amount to an increase of about 22 per cent over the original planning of these four residential sites," Chan said. Technical assessments will be carried out to ensure the proposals meet the original design concept and would not overload infrastructure like transportation, water supply, drains and sewers, according to the secretary.

"We would also carefully consider any possible extra strain on leisure and community facilities, or any impact from unwelcome noise, bad air quality or poor ventilation," he added.

Bernard Lim Wan-fung, president of the Institute of Urban Design, believes it is reasonable for the government to look into ways to readjust the development intensity at Kai Tak, given the serious housing shortage in Hong Kong.

Lim said the city had taken more than five years to reach the consensus that new towns should be more sustainable - a key principle in the planning of the Kai Tak development, which will feature a large park, a sports complex and relatively low housing density.

"But the housing problem has become much more serious since 2007; the waiting period for public flats is doubling," Lim added.
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Old November 15th, 2013, 12:13 PM   #589
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Teamwork vital for sports hub dream
The Standard
Friday, November 15, 2013

A sports city in Kai Tak is envisioned to be built by the government for HK$20 billion, with the facilities to be run by the private sector.
The Home Affairs Bureau will decide on the mode of operation and financial arrangement by the end of the month.

The bureau is leaning toward the principle of public-private partnerships, the same approach adopted for the Kai Tak Cruise Terminal.

It said the sports complex "will provide facilities for the community and world-class venues to raise Hong Kong's image as a center for international sporting events."

A bureau spokesman said another option is for the private sector to build and operate the complex with the government providing adequate subsidies from time to time.

Due to the financial risks involved, the bureau has ruled out the idea of having just one party, either the government or the private sector, to build and run the complex.

People can stroll around the sports city, eat and shop there, or book the venues as they do at facilities run by the Leisure and Cultural Services Department, the spokesman said.

Major facilities will include a 50,000-seat stadium, a 5,000-seat public sports ground, a 4,000-seat indoor center, office space of at least 10,000 square meters, commercial space of at least 31,500 sqm, and public recreational facilities in a park setting.

The bureau hopes sports associations and affiliated clubs will move in for long-term future development. As a sweetener, it will require in the contract that the parties running the hub provide rent discounts to authorized sports clubs.

For the indoor gymnasium and other facilities, the price level should be similar to those in the market and affordable to the public.

After deciding on the operation mode, the bureau plans to apply for funding from the Legislative Council at the end of 2015, and expects the hub to start service in 2019.
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Tram operator proposes $2.8b Kai Tak line
The Standard
Friday, December 06, 2013







Hong Kong Tramways has proposed building a HK$2.8 billion tram system for the Kai Tak site.

Under the tram operator's proposal, there will be 23 stations in the system, which will link Kai Tak pier, Ngau Tau Kok and Kowloon Bay MTR stations in 2018. The fare is expected to be HK$3 a trip.

The tram will be barrier free and able to shuttle along roads, said a spokesman, adding the "modern tramway" is the most efficient road space user.

It will be much cheaper and more flexible to build, operate and extend, as well as more environmentally friendly, he said. The tramway will have a low-floor design, enabling easy access for the elderly and passengers with trolleys, luggage or wheelchairs.

The modern tramway system is an advanced and proven technology, which has been operating in more than 400 cities worldwide, he said.

"We believe modern tramway to be the most cost- effective and efficient solution to serve the particular needs and vision for Kai Tak," said Hong Kong Tramways general manager Emmanuel Vivant.

A spokeswoman for the Development Bureau said it is difficult to offer the space to build a tram system as roads are already burdened.

The company will also have to carefully consider various aspects such as whether the places it plans to build on will be available before 2018.

She also said the bureau does not have information regarding building costs and fares.
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Are there plans to extend the waterfront promenade from Kai Tak to Hung Hom? What is the estimated date of completion for the promenade in the Kai Tak area?
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Are there plans to extend the waterfront promenade from Kai Tak to Hung Hom? What is the estimated date of completion for the promenade in the Kai Tak area?
Don't think a unified promenade is possible on the Kowloon side as some waterfront plots are privately owned and reclamation is likely impossible.
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Rethink urged on pricey plan for Kai Tak monorail system
The Standard
Tuesday, January 07, 2014

A think-tank has called on the government to think again about its plan for a monorail system in the Kai Tak development area.

The Bauhinia Foundation Research Centre said in a report that while it has not come to a conclusion, a monorail rail system will cost more than four times as much as a tramway - and its fares will be almost three times more.

In addition, a monorail will present problems regarding evacuation should there be a breakdown.

The cost of building the monorail could reach HK$12 billion as against HK$2.8 billion for the tram system.

In addition, the monorail fare is expected to be HK$8.50 against HK$3 for a tram.

The report noted that not many cities in the world have elevated monorails, except for amusement parks such as Disneyland or to provide tourists with a shuttle service.

The monorail line that runs around the central business district of Sydney will cease operation because it is losing money.

The report said that since the monorail is elevated, the system will be connected to shopping malls or lifts, which means that in a breakdown, passengers may be evacuated only with the help of firefighters.

A spokeswoman for the center said the government should consider the financial implications before it decides.

Kowloon City district councillor Yeung Chun-yu of the Association for Democracy and People's Livelihood said: "We hope that the government will abandon the monorail system and adopt the tramway."

Hong Kong Tramways has proposed building a HK$2.8 billion tram system for Kai Tak. There would be 23 stations in the system, which will link with Kai Tak pier, Ngau Tau Kok and Kowloon Bay MTR stations in 2018.
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Kai Tak sports complex cost put at HK$23 billion by government
South China Morning Post
4 January 2014

The city's biggest sports complex - to be located within the Kai Tak development area - will cost HK$23 billion of taxpayers' money and will involve the private sector in its long-term operation.

The Home Affairs Bureau revealed the first concrete plans for the controversial sports complex yesterday. The project will take up 28.2 hectares - roughly 8 per cent of the whole development at Hong Kong's former international airport. A network of cycling trails planned for the Kai Tak area will be extended into the complex.

The plans include a 50,000-seat stadium with a retractable roof, 5,000-seat sports ground and 4,000-seat indoor sports centre.

The Public Works Programme will fund the construction, while private sector management will be brought in for the long-term running of facilities, according to the bureau's document, which will be discussed at the Legislative Council next Friday. "This [public-private] approach will offer the greatest certainty in terms of achieving our project objectives whilst also harnessing the expertise and creativity of the private sector," read the document.

Commercial funding for the project is not viable according to previous consultancy studies, the document said.

"Any private sector participation options would be financially viable only if the government were to shoulder all the capital costs and guarantee the private sector a return on equity," the bureau said in the paper.

A seven-person task force will be set up under the recreation and sport branch of the bureau to oversee the project.

If funding is secured, the project will go through a detailed feasibility study in early 2015 costing some HK$50 million, with construction planned to begin in mid-2016 and be completed by 2020.

The complex will also feature at least 10,000 square metres of office space; commercial space of no less than 31,500 square metres for retail, food and beverage outlets; children's play areas, tai chi areas, fitness stations and jogging trails, and a landscaped garden with covered seating. The site is currently zoned for stadium use and "open space".

The sports complex caused controversy in October 2012 when a government adviser said it should be relocated to Lantau Island to make way for more flats to ease housing demands.

Academics suggested increasing the overall development density in Kai Tak could supply 3,000 to 7,000 more homes there.
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