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Old June 22nd, 2006, 07:55 AM   #101
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No reclamation involved in redevelopment of old Kai Tak airport site 2006-06-22 HKT 01:48

The Government has given an undertaking that no reclamation will be involved in the redevelopment of the site at the old Kai Tak airport. Under proposed plans, the site will have a number of facilities, including a cruise terminal, a multi-purpose stadium, a metropolitan park and several housing units.
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 08:51 AM   #102
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Graphic from today's Ming Pao:



There would have a railway station and a stadium in the North. A metro park, low-rise buildings, criuse terminal and a heliport on the former runway. Remaining lands are for commercil and residestal use. Height limit is enforced for the buildings to protect the view of the Lion Rock, the mountain which seperate between the Kowloon Peninsula and the New Territories.
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 09:29 AM   #103
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That looks brilliant that! Will really give HK a new facelift (or at least the Kowloon/NT side of Hong Kong).

I just wonder though, will there REALLY be that much green?

Knowing the HK Government, don't count on it.
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 03:59 PM   #104
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I think there is a huge chance that the greenery will stay. If not, then why would the renderings looks so good when the government will need to explain why the real plan won't be anything like what they proposed (assuming the renderings are theirs).

There is a greater push for urban greenery of late. I think there will be more vegetation on the streets of HK going forward as part of the new shift to environmentalism and sustainable development.
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 05:40 PM   #105
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Kai Tak Planning Review Stage 3
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Old June 23rd, 2006, 03:36 PM   #106
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Developers give nod to Kai Tak bid
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Friday, June 23, 2006

Two Hong Kong property giants have voiced their support for the government's blueprint for redeveloping the former airport at Kai Tak.

Sun Hung Kai Properties vice chairman and managing director Thomas Kwok Ping-kwong welcomed the plan, which has been criticized by legislators.

"The spatial feeling is quite good. The design was concerned about [creating a] lower density, which gives more space," Kwok said.

He said he likes the design, as the combination is "quite good," with sports fields, public housing, private housing and offices.

Lui Chee-woo, chairman of K Wah International Holdings, echoed Kwok's comments.

"Kai Tak airport has been abandoned for a long time. It is time to use it," Lui said, adding that since the government has yet to disclose full details he cannot tell if his firm will tender for projects.

The proposals released by the administration Wednesday show that under the preliminary outline development plan, the site will provide 700,000 square meters of Grade-A office space with a plot ratio of up to 9.5.

That is almost four times more than the area proposed in one of the original concept plans.

The runway will also house 17 large hotels, providing a total of 6,800 new hotel rooms - the equivalent of half of all the hotels in Tsim Sha Tsui.

Hotel operators will be responsible for building adjacent public facilities, such as a bus terminus, a government source said.

A two-berth cruise terminal, helipad and a 50,000-capacity sports stadium have all been retained from the three concept plans to ensure the site becomes a tourism and sports hub.

About 90 hectares of road networks, comprising 25 percent of the site area, will be provided to link the redeveloped Kai Tak area with the surrounding districts of Kowloon City, Kowloon Bay and Ngau Tau Kok.

An underground trunk road will link the runway to Kwun Tong and Tseung Kwan O.
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Old June 23rd, 2006, 05:11 PM   #107
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Old June 23rd, 2006, 06:15 PM   #108
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Old June 23rd, 2006, 06:25 PM   #109
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Government says there'll be contraints on Kai Tak link 2006-06-23 HKT 18:31

he Director of Planning, Bosco Fung

The government says there will be constraints in linking Kwun Tong with the old Kai Tak airport site when it's redeveloped. Speaking at the start of a two-month consultation on the project, the Director of Planning, Bosco Fung, also said that he didn't feel there would be any need for reclamation. He spoke about the problem in linking Kwun Tong with Kai Tak.
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Old June 23rd, 2006, 10:28 PM   #110
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Old June 24th, 2006, 01:00 AM   #111
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I don't like the plans of the models above. There is to much open space, over dimensioned roads, so not enough urbanity. Looks like chaos of not working greenery with not working urbanitiy. Just a bad plan.

This plan is much better. Is has urban blocks which can create lively urban life, a lovely new urban district. Is has concentrated green, which has a connection to the mountains and to the water. And it has some nice water related parts in it which can become lovely. The plan can bring nice contrasts, diversity, quality green in an urban setting.

Please don't make the mistake to build a garden city here, it never worked anywhere on earth!

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Swire's Kai Tak Vision
http://www.swireproperties.com/kaitak



Open Space Amenities
O1 Kai Tak Park
O2 Continuous Southeast Kowloon
O3 Kai Tak Ribbon Park
O4 Kai Tak Point

Public Facilities
P1 Kai Tak Stadium
P2 Kowloon Bay Yacht Club
P3 Kowloon Bay Hospital
P4 Schools, including International Schools
P5 MTR/KCR Depot

Residential Neighbourhoods
R1 Kowloon City South
R2 Diamond Foothills
R3 Kai Tak Archipelago
R4 Kowloon Bay Waterfront
R5 Kai Tak Point
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Old June 24th, 2006, 01:08 AM   #112
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I also think that the plan isn't good. The Part where the terminal before was, must have more density and urban blocks. The plan for the redevelopment of the runeways is good, becouse it's on water, and not in the middle of the city.
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Old June 24th, 2006, 01:15 AM   #113
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In the model the pier has big blocks in green. It just doesn't fit in! It seems to have totally no relation to the water, and the location on the water is amazing, you can do wonerfull things with it.

Smaller scale houses/buildings, related to the water, would be perfect here, possibly with marina's. That will bring a new unique housing type to Hong Kong with a great view over victoria harbour! In the design you can have a look at old harbour town in Hong Kong, with buildings in the water.
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Old June 24th, 2006, 03:05 AM   #114
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The model just for an idea layout, I sure the real one will look totally difference. As for layout go, it look okay I just think they can switch the sport center inland as it don't need to have a harboru view... also I hope to see one or two super tall there.
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Old June 24th, 2006, 11:12 AM   #115
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From news.gov.hk:
Kai Tak plan caters for future needs

Permanent Secretary for Housing, Planning & Lands Rita Lau says the draft development plan for Kai Tak caters for the next generation's needs, adding the Government is considering introducing pollution-free vehicles for internal transport in the area.

Speaking on a radio talk show today Mrs Lau said there will be a comprehensive transport network in Kai Tak, making it an easily accessible location. In addition to the proposed public transport interchange, pollution-free vehicles may be used to connect major components of the area.

Mrs Lau said the construction of a multi-purpose stadium ties in with the Government's healthy lifestyle promotion, adding that the facility can be used for sports events and cultural activities.

Noting the construction of the proposed two-berth cruise terminal will involve dredging, Mrs Lau said an environmental assessment will be conducted before the works start.

When asked whether Metro Park will be a private garden for nearby luxury resident developments, she said it will be a public facility, 1.4 times the size of Victoria Park.
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Old June 25th, 2006, 07:11 AM   #116
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I really don't like the government's plan while the plan from Swires is much impressive.

Both West Kowloon Waterfront and Kai Tak is two lastest valuable lands in Hongkong, they will be our economic engine if the government can handle them properly. Their values may only be maximized by upgrading their classes, especially Kai Tai where is a traditional general public residential area without major commercial values.

I really wonder the Kai Tak plan from the government is just a conservative manner to "fill in the blank" without adding values to the area, a primary school student may easily achieve the same......HK's revenue is much depended on the auction of land and a world-class town plan in these two lastest lands may enhance the continuous economic boom while the current plan may only introduce another "new residential town" like Shatin and Tseung Kwan O.
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The plan's too conservative. They should put something out of this world there. I want to be WOWed.
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Old June 25th, 2006, 06:03 PM   #118
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The fear is that if the government lets loose the planning for the sake of taking in more money, it'll result in a sea of 70+ storey skyscrapers that will block each other out and ruin the lives of everyone inside.
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Kwun Tong is Kai Tak's weak link, says board Airport site's redevelopment needs a bridge to its neighbours, say planners
24 June 2006
South China Morning Post

Poor access, a shortage of roads and the size and location of a multipurpose stadium complex were among concerns raised at a meeting of the Town Planning Board yesterday to discuss the blueprint for the redevelopment of the Kai Tak area.

Several board members, along with Chan Wai-kwan, who chairs the Harbourfront Enhancement Committee's subcommittee on Southeast Kowloon Development, pointed out that the 700,000-odd residents of Kwun Tong would be cut off from Kai Tak.

According to the preliminary outline development plan released this week, no pedestrian or vehicle links will be built across the water between Kai Tak's former runway and Kwun Tong, which lies north of the runway's southeastern end.

Board members also expressed concern over the transport facilities within the 328-hectare Kai Tak area. Only one road will run along the 3km former runway, connecting a rail station at the northwestern end to features including a cruise terminal, Metro Park, low-density residential development, tourism facilities and hotels.

Greg Wong Chak-yan, president of the Hong Kong Institute of Engineers, said the one road might not be enough to serve the area's cruise passengers, tourists, visitors and residents.

Dr Chan said the poor connections could deter the public from visiting Kai Tak and its Metro Park, which might then become an exclusive recreational area for residents of the luxury flats along the former runway.

Bosco Fung Chi-keung, director of planning, conceded that the development's proposed connection with Kwun Tong was particularly weak. He promised to study options to solve the problem, including the introduction of passenger sampans and a moveable bridge across the water separating Kwun Tong from Kai Tak.

The government is also considering using environment-friendly vehicles to help traffic flow within the district, Mr Fung said. But he did not address the need for more roads.

Another board member, Bernard Lim Wan-fung, criticised the location of the development's multi-purpose stadium complex.

Spanning 23.5 hectares of land on the sea-side junction between the runway and the rest of the Kai Tak site, the complex will include two stadiums - one with 45,000 seats, the other 5,000 - and various recreational facilities.

"There is no reason why the stadium should be put at such a strategic location, and why we should build such a huge complex, except that the government wants to show it off as one of the icons of Hong Kong," Professor Lim said. "The location and size of the complex will have a profound impact on the planning of Kai Tak. The government should not sacrifice Kai Tak for the sake of showing off."

Mr Fung denied that the complex would serve only as a new icon of Hong Kong, while a spokesman for the Home Affairs Bureau said there was a need for world-class sports facilities and that only half of the 23.5 hectares would be devoted to the stadiums.

The government has been assessing the feasibility of removing 600 metres of the runway to improve water circulation and reduce sedimentation in the Kai Tak nullah, according to a spokesman from the Civil Engineering and Development Department. A conclusion should be reached within nine months.

The preliminary plan outlining the development of Kai Tak will be open to public consultation for two months. A draft of overall zoning plans is expected to be completed by the end of the year.
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[size=4]The government has been assessing the feasibility of removing 600 metres of the runway to improve water circulation and reduce sedimentation in the Kai Tak nullah, according to a spokesman from the Civil Engineering and Development Department. A conclusion should be reached within nine months.

The preliminary plan outlining the development of Kai Tak will be open to public consultation for two months. A draft of overall zoning plans is expected to be completed by the end of the year.
It would by nice if they could start construction in 2007. It would even be nice if they could finish the planning by 2007. Its been almost a decade and they still haven't done anything.
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