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Old January 18th, 2006, 06:11 PM   #21
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I know who did it....Steve McQueen from the "Cheetham hill fire" thread ,, but don't worry i've given the photos to the Coppers from the "LIfe on mars" thread!!!!!!!!!!

Justice will be served and Strangeways here they go!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old January 18th, 2006, 06:54 PM   #22
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What court cases are them then, Potto?
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Old January 18th, 2006, 07:20 PM   #23
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all the money spent fighting tall building proposals in the City due to obscure view points that tall buildings currently inhabited anyway. Heron tower for example, instead the could have put a road tunnel under stonehendge for that!
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Old January 18th, 2006, 11:48 PM   #24
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Fire station's cultural future



London Road Fire Station in Piccadilly.

HOPES are mounting that a neglected Manchester landmark could be revived as a music, arts and cultural venue.

Developers Argent are understood to be working on plans for the 100-year-old former fire station at London Road.

Senior sources at Manchester city council have long hinted that the site, currently owned by Britannia Hotel proprietor Alex Langsam, must be included in the redevelopment of the Piccadilly area. Council officials have repeatedly refused to rule out the possibility of compulsory purchase if it remains unrefurbished.

Now they are understood to be working with Argent and other developers working on Piccadilly schemes to find a use for the building.

The city's chief executive Sir Howard Bernstein said "Inevitably there is a lot of press speculation about the future of the London Road Fire Station Building, and given the pace of change in the Piccadilly area, the future of the building is a priority for us. I can confirm that I have met the building's owner, Mr Alex Langsam, and that I am still in touch with him. It is not possible for me to say anything further."

The grade II listed fire station is included in English Heritage's register of "at risk" historic buildings.

Argent declined to comment on the plans.
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Old January 18th, 2006, 11:56 PM   #25
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To me the fact that Argent are leading on this is very interesting. Don't know the details but I think Argent were somehow involved in the development and funding of the Ikon Gallery, which is adjacent to Brindley Place in Birmingham.

I think they also sponsored the Birmingham Jazz Festival a few years back - nice - so it looks as if Argent take the cultural enrichment of areas around their developments quite seriously.
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Old January 19th, 2006, 12:33 AM   #26
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Im not keen on the sound of these plans, I thought we already had "world class" music venues in The Bridgewater Hall and the Arena, what can this bring to Manchester that we don't already have? Or are we just depserate for something to be done with it that we'll take any old thing? I'd rather it was developed as an Hotel or apartments with retail complex. My two cents for what its worth
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Old January 19th, 2006, 09:25 PM   #27
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Im not keen on the sound of these plans, I thought we already had "world class" music venues in The Bridgewater Hall and the Arena, what can this bring to Manchester that we don't already have? Or are we just depserate for something to be done with it that we'll take any old thing? I'd rather it was developed as an Hotel or apartments with retail complex. My two cents for what its worth
Good point - but I think it would make a great little arts venue. A kind of Apollo, but nice! It's not really a major stadium like the MEN or suitable for a classical thing like the Bridgewater. Maybe a place to re-place Band on the Wall?
The problem with building loads of Resi's is that only the people who benifit are those who live there. A nice venue like this is open to all.
Just my thoughts though....
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Old January 19th, 2006, 10:16 PM   #28
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Don't think Band on the Wall is closing...I know they're struggling for redevelopment funds at the moment but I'm assuming they'll be ok?

Perhaps we'll see something ambitious like Fosters pleasant dome at the British Museum (not that it ever rains round these parts - you know just in case like):



More quartets than labbats though.
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Old January 19th, 2006, 11:04 PM   #29
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Good point - but I think it would make a great little arts venue. A kind of Apollo, but nice! It's not really a major stadium like the MEN or suitable for a classical thing like the Bridgewater. Maybe a place to re-place Band on the Wall?
The problem with building loads of Resi's is that only the people who benifit are those who live there. A nice venue like this is open to all.
Just my thoughts though....
No you're right it would be great if it was something different but theres been speculation about a club etc and for me that won't work, a venue for THE ARTS would be terrific
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Old January 20th, 2006, 05:41 PM   #30
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The place would need some viable commercial entities to support any type of cultural venue as this part of town at the moment lacks decent footfall. I would like to see somekind of arty hotel / bar - club- music venue / art gallery and a styish glass roof over the court yard with the yard being fully utilsed as a arena. The Fire station should establish itself as as area to visiit - like a mini Covent Garden.
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Old February 11th, 2006, 04:40 PM   #31
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Article from MEN today


IN TUNE: An impression of how the complex might lookTHE landmark London Road fire station could be turned into a music centre if Manchester city council bosses get their way.
But the owner of the Grade II listed building says the plans for a stage music venue, music academy and archive, recording studios and hotel and private club are "unworkable".
Instead, Alex Langsam, owner of the Britannia Hotel group, has submitted his own plan to turn the building into a 200-bed hotel, new HQ for his own group and a fire station museum.
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He said: "I don't see how you can have a live music venue and a hotel in the same building. I was horrified when I saw the idea. I think the building deserves so much more than this.
"It lends itself to being a place where you can have nice teas and go for lunch and stay for the weekend. I also need the space for a new head office.
"Many of the hotels in my group are listed and I don't trust anybody else with this building."
Mr Langsam has owned the fire station for more than 20 years, but its condition has deteriorated so much it is now on English Heritage's register of "at risk" historical buildings. He says repeated attempts to redevelop or even clean it have been thwarted.
The music centre plan comes from developers Argent and other members of the Piccadilly Partnership.
They want to lease the building from Mr Langsam for an initial £100,000 a year, fund the redevelopment costs and bring in a specialist operating company to manage the building.
A report on the plan is being considered by city councillors next Wednesday.
Chief executive Howard Bernstein has described the project as "an exciting mix of viable uses". He said that the "outstanding building" was a prominent landmark with "a vital contribution to make to the success of the area".
And the clock is ticking to get the job done. The partnership is convinced that the building can be transformed in 18 months, once planning is approved - in time for the Manchester International Festival.
David Partridge, from the Piccadilly Partnership, said: "It is a scandal that this precious building is sitting there like a rotting hulk. We want to prove there is a use for it that is more than just the standard response of flats or a hotel.
"We have put forward something that is much more exciting, that preserves the building as a contemporary icon that will also be an economic asset.
"It is something really visionary and dynamic for Manchester."



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Old February 11th, 2006, 05:25 PM   #32
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Old February 11th, 2006, 05:25 PM   #33
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Cool! Its like the lowrise element for the orgional plan of Arena Central.
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Old February 11th, 2006, 05:36 PM   #34
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Thanks Accura - how are they going to move this thing forward - they seem to be in a bit of stalemate situation at the monent. Langsam comments do make sense.
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Old March 9th, 2006, 01:47 AM   #35
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News from MIPIM on proposals to transform the London Road fire station.

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FIRESTATION RESCUE PLANS ARE MUSIC TO MANCHESTER'S EARS

Wednesday, March 8, 2006


Ambitious Piccadilly proposals are endorsed by City Council

Manchester City Council has now endorsed the Piccadilly Partnership's ambitious plans to transform the landmark London Road Fire Station into "the place where Manchester music lives".

The exciting proposals have come from developers Argent and other members of the Piccadilly Partnership to transform the building, which is on English Heritage's register of 'at risk' historical buildings, and to create an exciting mix of new uses centred on the city's musical and cultural life in time for Manchester's International Festival in eighteen months' time.

According to Argent's Deputy Chief Executive David Partridge, the plans will make a major contribution to securing recognition and support for the City's regeneration as a cultural capital. "This is something visionary and dynamic for Manchester which can also save a precious building which is fast decaying. We believe that the unique heritage of this building demands more than a standard response such as private offices or a hotel.

"Manchester has the second largest concentration of employment in the media and creative industries in the country and has a capital 'M' when it comes to musical talent and creativity. We want to collaborate with this talent and let them define, curate and bring to life the re-imagined Fire station.

"What we are proposing is a city music centre on four floors which will include a music and event venue, a music academy and archive, recording studios, a private members' club, a music market and a boutique hotel. This centre will be open to all, providing learning and practice facilities for local schools, universities and the general public in the form of music related courses and particularly focusing on inspiring and enabling young people who pursue creative careers.

"This will be a place where a diverse mix of music-related, popular culture and entertainment elements will collectively combine to create unique energy and excitement from the moment you walk through the Firestation's main gates."

The main Firestation Music and Event venue will sit right in the heart of the building in the courtyard and former fire engine hall. The courtyard will be fully glazed for the hosting of events in a range of formats from standard 'theatre style' to the more intense standing-only 'gigs'. Supported by state of the art lighting and sound systems, the public will be able to enjoy a wide range of music performances from the greatest to the latest bands.

The other levels would accommodate a music academy and archive, several recording studios, a Firestation Private Members' club with a restaurant, a music market with shops and informal stalls, a music cafý and various eateries all spilling out onto the central covered sourtyard. A separately accessed, sound proofed boutique hotel would offer 100 high quality interior designed bedrooms and suites.

Following consideration of a report on the proposals this month, city councillors endorsed the initiative. Chief Executive Howard Bernstein described the project as "an exciting mix of viable uses" and said that he believed that "the outstanding building was a prominent landmark with a vital contribution to make to the success of the area."

Concluded David Partridge: "Following this vote of confidence, we are now discussing the way forward with all parties concerned to turn the Firestation into a reality in time for the International Festival."
http://www.manchesteratmipim.com/newsdetail.asp?id=130
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Old March 9th, 2006, 02:06 AM   #36
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A great and noble scheme to save a beautiful old building.

Ready in 18 months though? A tad ambitious methinks...
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Old March 9th, 2006, 12:26 PM   #37
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Still not entirely sure what the current owner's motives are mind. I know he is opposed to this idea and would prefer the option of having this building as offices (his own HQ) and a hotel, but then why hasn't he done anything about that? Slowly dilapidating by the day it needs a signature asap.
I like this idea though - hopefully the courtyard would be open to all during none events/daytime. I hope they draft in a responsible architect for the glazed roof, the last thing the building wants is a plastic glass roof a la piccadilly station.
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Old March 9th, 2006, 01:05 PM   #38
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Brill.

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Old March 9th, 2006, 01:09 PM   #39
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Still not entirely sure what the current owner's motives are mind. I know he is opposed to this idea and would prefer the option of having this building as offices (his own HQ) and a hotel, but then why hasn't he done anything about that? Slowly dilapidating by the day it needs a signature asap.
I like this idea though - hopefully the courtyard would be open to all during none events/daytime. I hope they draft in a responsible architect for the glazed roof, the last thing the building wants is a plastic glass roof a la piccadilly station.

He's had long enough to redevelop the fire station. I don't expect an early conclusion to this long and on going saga. This C*** will go down kicking and fighting. 'Over my dead body' springs to mind.
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Old March 9th, 2006, 02:12 PM   #40
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Jrb- you are being too cynical - I cant say too much at the moment but something is happening and it is happening very soon.
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