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citypia · October 30th, 2005, 02:21 PM

Today's article( Cho sun ilbo )

서울시 "제2 롯데월드 법적문제 없다"

사업 본격 추진 여부 주목
서울=연합뉴스

입력 : 2005.10.30 20:34 47'

112층, 555m 높이의 잠실 제2롯데월드 사업에 대해 서울시가 “법적 문제가 없다”는 내부 결론을 내려 그 추진 여부가 주목된다.
30일 서울시에 따르면 시는 최근 제2롯데월드 사업에 대한 법률 검토를 진행한 결과 “제2롯데월드에 대한 공군의 반대가 법적 구속력이 없다”는 결론을 내렸다.

시 관계자는 “제2롯데월드 지역이 항공기지법상 비행안전구역에 포함되지 않으며, 공군측이 밝힌 초고층화 반대 의견도 ‘법적 효력이 없는 단순 참고사항에 지나지 않는다’는 결론을 내렸다”고 밝혔다.

이에 따라 이르면 다음달 열리는 교통심의위원회에서 제2롯데월드의 교통영향평가가 통과되면, 시는 다음 절차인 도시건축공동위원회에 이같은 의견을 전달할 방침이다.

만약 도시건축공동위원회에서 심의가 통과되면 지구단위계획 변경과 건축 심의등을 거쳐 제2롯데월드의 인허가가 내려지게 된다.

하지만 서울시의 의도대로 제2롯데월드 추진이 가능해질지는 전적으로 도시건축공동위원회 심의 결과에 달려 있어 그 결과가 주목된다.

공군은 “제2롯데월드가 555m까지 올라가면 건물이 군용기 항로보다 훨씬 높은 곳에 위치하게 돼 사고 위험이 있다”며 사업을 반대하고 있으며, 도시건축공동위원회가 공군측 의견을 채택하면 사업 추진은 불가능해진다.

제2롯데월드는 잠실 롯데월드 맞은편에 백화점, 호텔, 사무실 등이 복합된 초고층 건물을 짓는 사업으로, 1994년부터 추진됐으나 공군 등의 반대로 그동안 사업이 지연됐었다.

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citypia · October 30th, 2005, 02:25 PM

New Renderings
(Height : unknown- 555m? , carring out foundation work already)

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2.

citypia · October 30th, 2005, 02:50 PM

Read this article
한국경제신문

Locust · October 30th, 2005, 04:56 PM

Is this really a go ahead for this project?
I am VERY VERY happy tht they changed the design....
anything is better than the Eiffel tower look-alike.. !

waterloo · October 30th, 2005, 06:20 PM

Wow!! You are the best citypia!

Apart from the futuristic part of design, it looks quite stable too. I love it

mumbojumbo · October 30th, 2005, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by citypia

New Renderings
(Height : unknown- 555m? , carring out foundation work already)

1.

2.

Heck yes! Love the 2nd design looks a bit like the IBC though.

***dhuwman*** · October 30th, 2005, 08:04 PM

The proposed design looks pretty cool ok. The only thing that bothers me is that there is no other super skyscraper in the area. It'll be the ONLY one..

SUNNI · October 30th, 2005, 09:44 PM

Citypia if you live in seoul, can you take a picture of the ground work?

SUNNI · October 30th, 2005, 09:51 PM

sounds great

plasma169 · October 31st, 2005, 01:26 AM

Damn. Why don't they build all these super towers in one area?

It seems all the tall towers are built spread across the whole area.

SUNNI · October 31st, 2005, 09:44 AM

i guess it gives them the "landmark" feel

SUNNI · October 31st, 2005, 09:45 AM

and i thaught the residential low-rises in that area were going to be redeveloped..

kyenan · October 31st, 2005, 07:33 PM

I prefer the first one on the top. What do you guys think?

cydevil · October 31st, 2005, 07:40 PM

Now, that's a VAST improvement from the previous Eifel Tower crap!

However, this passage worries me:

Quote:

롯데는 또 교통량 자체를 줄이기 위해 실내 테마파크 건립을 백지화하고 호텔 객실 수도 700실에서 300실 규모로 줄이는 방안도 추진 중이다. 롯데 관계자는 "건축 연면적을 당초 계획보다 2000여평 이상 줄이고 용적률도 허용치(800%)의 절반인 400% 수준으로 낮췄다"고 말했다.

So does this reduction in vertical area come from cancellation of a theme park, or does would this mean a height reduction?

***dhuwman*** · October 31st, 2005, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyenan

I prefer the first one on the top. What do you guys think?

I second that. Looks really unique

Ellatur · November 1st, 2005, 01:03 AM

YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DESIGN CHANGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
now i can wholeheartedly support this project

Double k · November 1st, 2005, 06:46 AM

It would look better if the commie blocks in the Jamsil area are redeveloped into office towers like Gangnam.... still the tower is impressive

SUNNI · November 1st, 2005, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyenan

I prefer the first one on the top. What do you guys think?

me too

but id be damn happy if the other one was built too

btw, both towers sort of look like the Grollo Tower which was proposed of Melbourne, but couldnt get built..

ginkobed · November 1st, 2005, 11:21 AM

the whole commie blocks around the planned land are supposed to be under massive redevelopment, BUT this current left wing government simply won't approve it along with many other redevelopment projects along the river because they don't want the real estate market in gangnam/seocho/songpa areas in seoul to over-heat, which is BULLSHIT, we all know.

Ray · November 1st, 2005, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUNNI

Citypia if you live in seoul, can you take a picture of the ground work?

You mean construction has already started?

October 30th, 2005, 02:21 PM	#1
citypia 파란나라 Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 764 Likes (Received): 26	SEOUL \| Lotte World #2 \| 555m \| App Today's article( Cho sun ilbo ) 서울시 "제2 롯데월드 법적문제 없다" 사업 본격 추진 여부 주목 서울=연합뉴스 입력 : 2005.10.30 20:34 47' 112층, 555m 높이의 잠실 제2롯데월드 사업에 대해 서울시가 “법적 문제가 없다”는 내부 결론을 내려 그 추진 여부가 주목된다. 30일 서울시에 따르면 시는 최근 제2롯데월드 사업에 대한 법률 검토를 진행한 결과 “제2롯데월드에 대한 공군의 반대가 법적 구속력이 없다”는 결론을 내렸다. 시 관계자는 “제2롯데월드 지역이 항공기지법상 비행안전구역에 포함되지 않으며, 공군측이 밝힌 초고층화 반대 의견도 ‘법적 효력이 없는 단순 참고사항에 지나지 않는다’는 결론을 내렸다”고 밝혔다. 이에 따라 이르면 다음달 열리는 교통심의위원회에서 제2롯데월드의 교통영향평가가 통과되면, 시는 다음 절차인 도시건축공동위원회에 이같은 의견을 전달할 방침이다. 만약 도시건축공동위원회에서 심의가 통과되면 지구단위계획 변경과 건축 심의등을 거쳐 제2롯데월드의 인허가가 내려지게 된다. 하지만 서울시의 의도대로 제2롯데월드 추진이 가능해질지는 전적으로 도시건축공동위원회 심의 결과에 달려 있어 그 결과가 주목된다. 공군은 “제2롯데월드가 555m까지 올라가면 건물이 군용기 항로보다 훨씬 높은 곳에 위치하게 돼 사고 위험이 있다”며 사업을 반대하고 있으며, 도시건축공동위원회가 공군측 의견을 채택하면 사업 추진은 불가능해진다. 제2롯데월드는 잠실 롯데월드 맞은편에 백화점, 호텔, 사무실 등이 복합된 초고층 건물을 짓는 사업으로, 1994년부터 추진됐으나 공군 등의 반대로 그동안 사업이 지연됐었다. article __________________ Protecting from the personal insulting and abuse on the internet is our first step for the human right. Don't call a person monkey again. You are much worse than a monkey. Last edited by citypia; October 30th, 2005 at 02:31 PM.

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