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[ZZ-II]

anyone who live in Seoul should make construction Photos of the site!!!

[cydevil]

Korean government to positively reconsider the Lotte Tower II, and seek an acceptable alternative for both Lotte and the ROK Air Force.

제2롯데월드 `신격호 회장의 꿈` 14년만에 이뤄지다
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롯데그룹 신격호 회장의 평생 숙원사업이 이뤄졌다.

정부는 18일 제2단계 기업환경 개선 추진계획을 통해 서울 잠실 제2롯데월드 건설을 승인하기 위한 군용기 항로 조정 등의 실현가능한 대안을 적극 검토키로 했다.

구본진 기획재정부 정책조정국장은 "서울공항의 필요성까지 고려해서 양자(롯데그룹-군)가 윈윈할 수 있는 합리적인 대안을 모색하고 있다"고 말했다.

이에 따라 롯데그룹이 1994년부터 추진해온 112층 잠실 제2롯데월드 건설이 결실을 맺게 됐다.

롯데그룹은 오너인 신격호 회장이 "한국에 세계적인 랜드마크 타워를 건설하겠다"는 의지에 따라 지난 1988년 1월 송파구 신천동 29번지 일대 8만7603.7㎡(2만6500평)을 서울시로부터 사들였다.

1994년 비행안전국역 초고층 가능여부 질의로 시작된 이 사업은 지난 1995년 송파구에 최초로 높이 402m, 100층 건립계획안을 제출했으나 성남 서울공항과 교통난 등 반대 여론에 밀려 사업은 좌절됐다. 이후 98년 지하 5층, 지상 36층의 건축허가를 송파구청으로부터 받는 데 그쳤다.

하지만 신격호 회장이 세계 최고층 빌딩을 짓겠다는 방침이 다시 세워지면서 롯데그룹은 2002년 9월 112층 규모의 빌딩 건립안을 송파구에 제출했다.

이후 서울시가 건축허가를 긍정적으로 검토하겠다는 입장을 밝히면서 사업 추진은 급물살을 탔고 결국 작년 2월 서울시 도시건축공동위원회가 지상 112층, 지하5층의 제2 롯데월드 건립계획을 통과시키면서 사업은 본 궤도에 오르는 듯 했다.

당시 롯데그룹은 제2롯데월드가 완공되면 관광객이 20∼30% 증가할 것으로 보고, 연간 150만명 이상의 외국 관광객이 방문하는 기존 롯데월드와 연계해 세계적인 관광 타운으로 만들 수 있다는 논리로 서울시의 허가를 이끌어냈었다.

하지만 공군이 제2롯데월드가 들어설 경우 성남공항 항공기 안전성에 심각한 문제가 발생할 수 있다며 반대, 건설교통부 행정자치부 서울시 국무총리 등이 참석한 행정협의조정위원회로 넘어갔고 결국 작년 7월 26일 최종 불허 방침이 내려졌었다.

그러나 제2롯데월드 건립을 지지해온 이명박대통령이 신축 허용 검토를 시사했고, 군당국과의 협의를 거쳐 최종 허용하는 쪽으로 결론이 내려졌다.

◇제2롯데월드 추진 경과

▲ 1994. 5.26 비행안전구역 바깥에 초고층 가능여부 질의 (롯데 → 서울시)

▲ 1994. 7.21 회신공문 접수 (서울시 → 롯데)

- 비행안전구역 밖에 위치한 부지는 군용항공기지법상 해당사항 없다는 공군 의견 회신

▲ 1995.11.30 도시설계안 송파구 제출 : 100층, 높이 402m

▲ 1996. 7. 4 송파구로부터 유관기관(공군) 협의결과 공문접수

- 비행안전구역 내는 해발 137m, 인접대지는 해발 164.5m 까지 건축에 동의

▲ 1998. 5.19 건축허가 취득 36층, 건물높이 143m

▲ 2001. 3. 3 공군고시 (공군 제3368부대 고시 제 2001-1호)

고시내용 : 서울공항의 비행안전구역 및 각 구역별 건축물 등의 제한높이

▲ 2003. 9 ~ 2004. 1 미연방항공청에 기술 자문

▲ 2004.10.26 지구단위계획 변경(안) 송파구에 제출

- 지상 112층, 지하5층 / 524m(첨탑포함 555m)

▲ 2005. 1 송파구청, 제2롯데월드 지구단위계획 변경안 서울시에 제출

▲ 2005.12 서울시 교통영향 심의위원회 협의 완료 (심의필)

▲ 2006. 2 지구단위계획 변경안 서울시 도시건축공동위원회 심의 가결

▲ 2006. 4. 3 건축계획심의 신청

▲ 2006. 5.22 국방부(공군) 행정협의조정 신청

▲ 2006. 6. 7 건축허가관련 절차 유보 (행정협의조정위원회 요청에 의거)

▲ 2006. 7.27 행정협의조정위원회 개최 (공군요청 비행안전영향평가 용역실시 결정)

▲ 2006.10 ~ 2007. 2 비행안전영향평가 용역 실시

▲ 2007. 5.22 행정협의조정위원회 실무위원회 개최

▲ 2007.7.26 행정협의조정위원회 제2롯데월드 건립 원한 불허

▲ 2008. 4월 서울시 112층 제외한 9개동 신축계획안 조건부 가결

▲ 2008. 9.18 정부 제2롯데월드 건축 사실상 허용

http://news.chosun.com/site/data/htm...091800865.html

[evilbish]

Originally Posted by cydevil

Gangnam's real estate prices are high because of its better infrastructure such as good roads and schools. Roh's real estate policies were only good as temporary solutions, and it had a lot of adverse side-effects like the exodus of domestic capital to international real estate markets. Myungbak is the one who's truly working to curtail the real estate climbs by making Gangbuk as desirable as Gangnam, if not any better. This means more supply of quality urban environment and less demand for Gangnam, ultimately leading to decrease of Gangnam's real estate prices without socialistic government intervention.

Jamsil isn't in Gangnam, it's in Songpa.

[evilbish]

I was watching MBC news earlier this evening and there was a segment about talks between Lotte and the Korean air force and it seems that the air force is going to change it's flight path so it doesn't go near Jamsil.
It looks as though there's life in this project after all! (Fingers crossed)

[cydevil]

Lotte is pushing for the project with strong backing from the current administration. However, I personally hope that they just build this tower elsewhere, because safety concerns do seem legit.

[evilbish]

What exactly are these safety concerns? Are they from the ROK air force? I rarely see air traffic in the area.

[cydevil]

Originally Posted by evilbish

What exactly are these safety concerns? Are they from the ROK air force? I rarely see air traffic in the area.

The safety concern is that the new tower will be dangerously close to flight patch entering the airport.



The airport is important militarily, especially in time of war.

[evilbish]

This is why the ROK air force has agreed to change it's flight path!

[cydevil]

Originally Posted by evilbish

This is why the ROK air force has agreed to change it's flight path!

Don't you mean the runway?

BTW, the Seoul mayor just announced plans to lift height restrictions on Jamsil, which means Lotteworld 2 won't be the only skyscraper that the ROK Air Force will have to deal with.

[ttoigongju]

Lotte agreed to pay for the rerouting of the flight path. They've been waiting to build this tower for a long time and they are running out of time.

[dhuwman]

What not change/repave the runway? That would be a much more feasible plan than removing the highrise plan altogether or changing airpaths

[cydevil]

They are changing the direction of the runway at Lotte's expense. Seoul Metropolitan Government just announced plans to allow a bunch of skyscrapers around the area that Lotte World II is getting built, so I guess the ROK Air Force is on the losing side.

[evilbish]

Approved today!

From the Korea Times:

"Lotte’s Skyscraper Plan Approved, but Concern Lingers


By Kim Tong-hyung
Staff Reporter

The Lotte Group's plan to erect a 112-story building in southern Seoul was given the final go-ahead Tuesday, inviting criticism from all sides.

Lotte's new trophy tower will be 555 meters in height, according to the plan, which took Lotte's aging Chairman Shin Kyuk-ho 15 years to see through.

Some military and aviation officials have raised concerns that the building will be too close to Seoul Airport in Seongnam, Gyeonggi Province, which currently doubles as a military airbase. Residents living in the path of the air route are also up in arms.

The two sites are located about six kilometers apart, and according to the worst-case scenario, aircraft approaching the airport would be in danger of crashing into the skyscraper.

However, in approving the plan, a joint committee of government officials and civilian experts downplayed the safety concerns, saying that the danger could be easily avoided by adjusting the direction of the airport's eastside runway 3 degrees to the east.

The same committee had rejected Lotte's previous request in July 2007.

``On the condition that Lotte honors its agreement with the Air Force on issues over Seoul Airport's operations and aviation safety, we withdraw our 2007 decision,'' said Cho Won-dong, a senior official of the Office of the Prime Minister.

Lotte and the Air Force have recently reached a tentative agreement over financing the reconstruction of the airport's runway and relocating a squadron of KA-1 light fighters to another airbase in Wonju, Gangwon Province.

Construction is to start in the later half of the year for completion by 2014.

The company will spend over one trillion won (about $716 million) over the five-year construction period, with the ambitious plan of creating ``2.5 million'' jobs per year during this period.

Upon completion, ``Lotte World No. 2'' will hire around 23,000 people and attract about 1.5 million foreign tourists, generating a yearly revenue of about $200 million, according to Lotte officials.

``Seoul needs its own landmark as we can't show Namdaemun and Gyeongbok Palace to tourists all the time,'' said a Lotte spokesman.

Aviation experts such as Hanyang University's Cho Jin-soo argue that adjusting the direction of the airport's runway is hardly a fundamental solution to the problem.

Statistics show that most aviation accidents occur shortly after takeoff and before landing, and planes flying into Seoul Airport from the north are about 280 meters above the ground when they pass the area around Lotte's planned skyscraper.

Although times may differ by aircraft type, it would take only 20 to 40 seconds for a plane to reach the 500-meter plus building after leaving Seoul Airport, Cho said.

And pilots flying into the airport will have a window of just 17 to 34 seconds to react if an aircraft wavers off its flight path and moves toward the building, he added.

``The new Lotte building is located as close to 1.2 kilometers from the flight-path for landings, but to ensure air safety, it must be at least three to four kilometers away,'' Cho said.

``Wake turbulence and clear air turbulence could create problems. And a 555-meter building that close to the flight-path would present a psychological threat for any pilot, and should an aircraft move beyond its flight-path due to mechanical problems or other factors, the results could be disastrous.''


Article here. http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news...123_42337.html

[ttoigongju]

any progress? anyone?

[gabjp]

Is it already O/C?

and why there's no renders on this thread?

[evilbish]

There are plenty of renders out there, so here are a couple. Just for you.

[ttoigongju]

This is an old design by SOM - they are not using this design anymore. Anyone have the new design images?

[architec101]

Originally Posted by ttoigongju

This is an old design by SOM - they are not using this design anymore. Anyone have the new design images?

Thank God for that. This design seems too simple and mundane. I hope they will come up with something more spectacular, unique and Korean.

[evilbish]

Originally Posted by ttoigongju

This is an old design by SOM - they are not using this design anymore. Anyone have the new design images?

Then have you seen the new renders? The images on the SOM website suggest it is still this design. Also, I've heard no news of a redesign since these renders were released.

[cydevil]

According to a Democrat lawmaker, Lotte Group has proposed a height extention to 123 floors to the local government.

http://news.joins.com/article/452/38...ome|list|list1


And they changed the design... again.



Sauron should be interested in renting the penthouse.