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Old July 5th, 2016, 10:17 AM   #2141
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It does appear to be a bit misleading however here in the UK it is quite normal for a destination to be classed as a totally different city for marketing reasons. No offense intended though.

A budget airline in Europe is famous for doing this. Ryanair for example do this all the time.
marketing reasons? the statement is highly misleading , false advertising if you like.

it is basically like referring to bai yun or bao an airports as being in HK.
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Old July 28th, 2016, 10:25 AM   #2142
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Apparently, according to CARNOC, the arrangement of Chinese airlines has been decided.

The airports will be split across alliances. Air China and its Star Alliance members will remain at Beijing Capital Airport while China Eastern and China Southern and their SkyTeam member carriers will be based out of Daxing Airport.
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Old July 28th, 2016, 11:32 AM   #2143
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Apparently, according to CARNOC, the arrangement of Chinese airlines has been decided.

The airports will be split across alliances. Air China and its Star Alliance members will remain at Beijing Capital Airport while China Eastern and China Southern and their SkyTeam member carriers will be based out of Daxing Airport.
I can't help but think that this kind of centralized planning is counterproductive. Chinese airlines aren't allowed to compete with each other on the same route and the top three are state owned, so destinations are allocated among them basically randomly.

That means that Beijing is connected to a subset of international cities at one airport and another subset at another. It's not a big deal for O/D traffic, but everyone who needs to make a domestic-international connection now has way fewer options, not to mention that now Beijing can never become a true international hub because, assuming a 50/50 split of cities across the airport, only 50% of city pairs connect through the same airport.

I'm not advocating for splitting airlines evenly across the two, but I can't help but think that a rigid plan based on non-organic patterns isn't the best way to go.
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Old July 28th, 2016, 06:34 PM   #2144
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I can't help but think that this kind of centralized planning is counterproductive. Chinese airlines aren't allowed to compete with each other on the same route and the top three are state owned, so destinations are allocated among them basically randomly.

That means that Beijing is connected to a subset of international cities at one airport and another subset at another. It's not a big deal for O/D traffic, but everyone who needs to make a domestic-international connection now has way fewer options, not to mention that now Beijing can never become a true international hub because, assuming a 50/50 split of cities across the airport, only 50% of city pairs connect through the same airport.

I'm not advocating for splitting airlines evenly across the two, but I can't help but think that a rigid plan based on non-organic patterns isn't the best way to go.
I think I may have not worded it correctly. Airlines in Daxing, CZ in particular, can now apply for routes that CA flies exclusively out of PEK, effectively making CZ's dream of a Beijing international hub a reality.

I will agree however that it's unfair that CZ, MU and JD will be subjected to competing for route authorities with each other whereas CA will essentially get free play at PEK once most non-Star Chinese players move to Daxing. There's no such exclusivity anywhere else in China for any other airline. CTU for example, allows multiple airlines to compete on the same international routes and this will not change even when Tianfu airport is opened. HNA Group will be unfairly split between the two airports since HU will stay at PEK while JD will be at Daxing.
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Old July 28th, 2016, 06:59 PM   #2145
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Old August 7th, 2016, 07:20 AM   #2146
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Old August 24th, 2016, 06:28 AM   #2147
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We saw back in October Air China announced PEK-Mumbai direct flights. Now they are not available. Were they canceled?

Also, is Beijing New Airport / Daxing going to get its own thread?
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Old August 24th, 2016, 01:21 PM   #2148
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Air China will start flying on PEK - WAW route on Airbus A332. First flight september 21st.
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Old August 25th, 2016, 06:08 AM   #2149
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We saw back in October Air China announced PEK-Mumbai direct flights. Now they are not available. Were they canceled?
Air China's Beijing-Bombay op is seasonal.
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Old August 28th, 2016, 04:22 AM   #2150
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Finally got some updated satellite images of construction on the new airport. Less recent than Munwon's photos but still pretty interesting.
Coordinates: 39°30'37.53"N 116°24'40.85"E




Entire villages were razed in the space of a few months to make way for construction:

Does anyone have more recent satellite photos or construction updates on Daxing?
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Old August 29th, 2016, 07:35 PM   #2151
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Air China's Beijing-Bombay op is seasonal.
Thank you. Do you happen to know when it will restart?
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Old August 30th, 2016, 03:40 AM   #2152
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I found this pic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beijin...tional_Airport
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Old August 30th, 2016, 03:34 PM   #2153
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Nanyuan, the oldest of the 3 airports, will close when Daxing opens (or it may be reserved for state use only).

Beijing will basically be left only with 2 x Heathrow sized airports thereafter.

Incidentally China intends to build 50 New Airports ....by 2021. Some will be substantial upgrades of existing airports and some will be new and will replace existing fields.

http://en.people.cn/n3/2016/0307/c90000-9025940.html

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China will build about 50 new airports, most of which will be in central and western regions during the 13th Five-Year Plan period, said Minister of Transportation Yang Chuantang
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Old October 2nd, 2016, 03:03 PM   #2154
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Winner or not??

This is Haikou Meilan airport masterplan
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Old October 2nd, 2016, 06:13 PM   #2155
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Old October 14th, 2016, 10:59 PM   #2156
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Some nice pics here:
http://www.thenational.ae/business/a...port-by-2019#5
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Old December 14th, 2016, 10:36 AM   #2159
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Beijing Capital Airport Welcomes 90 Millionth Passenger for 2016

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The world's second busiest airport says it has welcomed its 90 millionth passenger on Wednesday morning, making it the second airport in the world to serve that many passengers in a single calendar year.

With the touchdown of Air China flight CA8201, Beijing Capital International Airport hit the milestone of 90 million passengers. Every customer on the arriving flight from Wuhan Tianhe International Airport got a surprising gift from the staff of Beijing Capital Airport.

Beijing Capital Airport has been the world's second busiest airport in terms of passenger traffic for 7 years in a row, next only to Atlanta Airport, which handled 100 million passengers in 2015.

It took the airport 4 years to reach its passengers to 90 million from 80 million. In 2012, Beijing Capital Airport hit 80 million passengers for the first time. The airport handled 83.50 million passengers in 2013, 86.13 million in 2014 and 89.94 million in 2015.

Currently, there are 102 airlines -- 28 domestic airlines and 74 international airlines -- operating at Beijing Capital Airport, connecting the airport with 140 domestic destinations and 132 international destinations (including Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan). Beijing Capital Airport has signed sister airport agreements with 33 international airports worldwide.

As the busiest airport in China, Beijing Capital Airport is dedicated to building itself into a major international air hub. With the implement of 72-hour visa free policy, the number of transit passengers has increased 32% from a year earlier. The airport says 26% of its customers are international passengers. The growth rate of international passengers is triple that of domestic passengers.

"The 90 million milestone is new starting point for us. We still have a long way to go," said Beijing Capital Airport.

Shanghai Monday received its 100 millionth air passenger this year, making the city the world's fifth to handle more than 100 million annual air passengers, following London, New York, Tokyo and Atlanta. Shanghai's two airports -- Pudong and Hongqiao -- will be able to handle 120 million passengers and 5.2 million tonnes of cargo annually by 2020.
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Old December 16th, 2016, 03:49 PM   #2160
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