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Old July 12th, 2006, 03:23 PM   #301
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Terminal Size as Opposed to Capacity

It is surprising that, despite being twice as large as Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok's terminal, it can only handle 45 million annual passengers. I mean, Hong Kong's can handle the same amount of passengers. Surely a million square meter terminal can handle way more passengers than that.

I like how the terminal is coming along. It is definitely huge. But probably not as large as I had expected it.

Does anyone know how many check-in counters there would be in total for this terminal?

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Old July 12th, 2006, 08:21 PM   #302
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Nice renders though i'm somewhat disappointed with the result. The roof looks a tangled mess inside and the red dragon theme is a bit lazy and silly. There is no sense of serenity within this space unlike Hong Kong's airport which in my eye's is a far superior design,clean and simple. I do like however the garden like spaces within the airport though I doubt in the summer months these will be used due to the humidity/noise and pollution around this aiport.

I agree with you on some parts but then again its too early to tell. We will have to wait and see the final result as it could be greatly improved. As for the interior roof I agree its a bit chaotic, I think for huge terminal roofs, the HK one is really superb its smooth and the quality is very good and you dont see all the metal frames with crisscross beams.
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Old July 13th, 2006, 01:24 AM   #303
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I know the HK airport has an objective (which they already met) to allow 90% of the planes to have jetways. That's one of the reasons why they build the small terminal for narrow-body.
From what i have seen, they almost never use parking stand for wide-body airplane boarding/de-boarding. Parking stand in HKG are usually used for planes that would not be used for a while (probably anything over 3 hours or so) after/before regular passenger services. And the planes will go into the jetways stand when passenger boarding starts.
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Old July 13th, 2006, 01:41 AM   #304
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now thats what i call an airport.
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Old July 13th, 2006, 02:28 AM   #305
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Here's a picture of HKG:



You can see the wide spacing between gates as well as the general use of larger planes. Of all the planes in this picture -- 35 by my count -- at least 24 of them are widebodies. The dual jetways can also be clearly seen on the right.

Incidentally, the new Beijing terminal and Hong Kong airport were both designed by Norman Foster -- hence the similarity in shape. Foster also designed the terminal at London Stansted, so it's been interesting to watch the evolution in Foster's airport designs starting with Stansted, HK and now to Beijing.

Foster is designing London Heathrows East Project as well, which is another massive airport project which involves the demolition of the old and cramped terminals built in the 60's in time for the Olympics in 2012. The design is an evolution of both the Hong Kong design and Stansted.
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Old July 13th, 2006, 04:36 AM   #306
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It is surprising that, despite being twice as large as Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok's terminal, it can only handle 45 million anual passengers. I mean, Hong Kong's can handle the same amount of passengers. Surely a million square meter terminal can handle way more passengers than that.

I like how the terminal is coming along. It is definitely huge. But probably not as large as I had expected it.

Does anyone know how many check-in counters there would be in total for this terminal?

Thanks.
What are you talking about? Beijing airport T3 hasn't built yet. It now handles more passengers than HK with only T1 & T2, which together are smaller than HK's terminal. Beijin the new a million square meters T3 terminal will handle up to 100million passenger annually in future. There are 99 airbridges for T3 terminal.
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Old July 13th, 2006, 06:01 AM   #307
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I heard a few new expressways will be built to connect the airport, and the subway to airport is also being built. Anybody has the latest update on those projects? Thanks in advance.
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Old July 13th, 2006, 06:48 AM   #308
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What are you talking about? Beijing airport T3 hasn't built yet. It now handles more passengers than HK with only T1 & T2, which together are smaller than HK's terminal. Beijin the new a million square meters T3 terminal will handle up to 100million passenger annually in future. There are 99 airbridges for T3 terminal.
You might want to re-read the original post by VVVV:

"Located between the existing eastern runway and the future third runway, the terminal encloses a floor area of more than a million square metres and is designed to accommodate an estimated 43 million passengers per annum, rising to 53 million by 2015."

I think Cebuano was just commenting about on the fact that, HKIA with a terminal area of 550,000 sq.m can handle over 40 million passengers -- or almost the same as the forecast capacity of Beijing's T3, with 1m sq.m. No one is disputing that Beijing airport currently handles more passengers than Hong Kong.
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Old July 13th, 2006, 07:47 AM   #309
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@ General Huo

Yeah, exactly.

Wow, there are 99 aerobridges for T3! That's amazing! So, did they change the actual size of the terminal since the original plans called for an initial 66 aerobridges as what VVVV's first post pics suggest and with further expansion for a final total of 120 aerobridges for T3 in the future as I have read in a book about airport architecture? If so, the further expansion for T3 would, probably, go beyond the 120 aerobridges final total for T3 in the original plans! Cool!
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Old July 13th, 2006, 12:34 PM   #310
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Cool building.

I read that Bejing will build a new airport that will be the world's largest. It seems that the once who wrote that have misunderstood:

"The world's largest and most advanced airport
building - not only technologically, but also in terms
of passenger experience"
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Old July 14th, 2006, 06:34 AM   #311
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When's this marvel going to be finished?
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Old July 14th, 2006, 10:49 AM   #312
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In time for the Olympics, perhaps?
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When's this marvel going to be finished?
2007
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Old July 15th, 2006, 08:50 PM   #314
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In time for the Olympics, perhaps?
Wow, you must be the valedictorian in your class, given your unparalleled smarts.

Of course it's in time for the olympics. But it can be between now > olympics.
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Old July 15th, 2006, 11:12 PM   #315
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What great pictures. I like T2 the best.

Of the three largest airports in China (Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong), which one serves the most passengers, and which is expanding for the most capacity?
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What great pictures. I like T2 the best.

Of the three largest airports in China (Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong), which one serves the most passengers, and which is expanding for the most capacity?
I would say HK serves the most passengers (for now) but in terms of expansion, I'd say Beijing simply because its a major aviation hub in China and with the construction of T3 as well as the Olympics underway, you can be sure of it.
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Wow, you must be the valedictorian in your class, given your unparalleled smarts.
No need for being rude. It was a joke, hence the "".
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Old July 17th, 2006, 01:31 AM   #318
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In that case, I owe you an apology.
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Old July 17th, 2006, 06:41 AM   #319
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Some more recent shots of T3 u/c (courtesy of photographers 肥毅, 紫金山, Auto-Pilot & chen0724):

T3B with T2 (@ 15 June '06):


T3B:


T3A with green-roofed Train Terminal:





Aerial view (@ May '06):


Ground-level pix (@ 15 June '06):











Roof:








(@ 10 May '06):


Interior (@ March '06):







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Old July 17th, 2006, 07:07 AM   #320
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The louver looks beautiful! where is the T1 in the pictures?
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