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Old November 7th, 2006, 12:14 AM   #421
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WOW! This thread is getting exciting, and the changes are so fast! The tarmac area seems to be quite cleaned up already.
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Old November 7th, 2006, 12:42 AM   #422
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very very exciting photos.
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Old November 7th, 2006, 04:58 AM   #423
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hey that's like in ben gurion airport... arrivals on the upper level, departures on the lower level...
Well....I mean....2 opposite arrangements in the same terminal (complex), one at one end!

Thanks for bringing this out. I've looked into Ben Gurion's case. I think you're referring to T1, formerly the main terminal. From what I understand (after reading info on the net) BG's arrivals floor(s) were vertically separated from departures floors, instead of above them, if I get it right.

If that's the case, then its layout & pax flows were more or less similar to those of Taipei Sungshan Domestic Airport, which I had experiences using it. Except that TSA has no passport controls + has boarding bridges on 1/F. I would say they belong generally to an even older type of design. (Most of) their departures & arrivals procedures are vertically separated, side by side.

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Old November 7th, 2006, 07:42 AM   #424
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Old November 7th, 2006, 11:01 AM   #425
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i mean Ben Gurion's T3, in the concourses the arrivals are at the upper levels and the departures are at the lower levels but the check-in area is in the upper levels and the baggage hall is in the lower levels because the passageway connecting the concourses and the passenger terminal slopes downwards..
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Old November 7th, 2006, 04:29 PM   #426
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I see! Thank you for the explanation. I've just seen an interactive map of Ben Gurion T3 which shows the pax flows like you said.
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Old November 8th, 2006, 10:31 AM   #427
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Update - Tentative list of airline distribution among the 3 terminals:

T3:
Air China (to become a member of Star Alliance in '07)
One World's members
Shandong Airlines (a subsidiary of Air China)
Shanghai Airlines (to become a member of Star Alliance in '07)
Star Alliance's members

T2:
China Eastern Airlines
China Southern Airlines (Sky Team's member-to-be)
Sky Team's members

Other non-member airlines: yet-to-be-determined / make their own choices

T1:
Hainan Airlines
Shenzhen Airlines

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Additional pix (by DFKJB, 6 Nov '06):

Light Rail Terminal @ GTC:




Bridges linking L4 - the closer 2 (sloping upwards from right) with GTC / Light Rail Terminal, the farther 1 (sloping downwards) with the kerbside:

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Old November 9th, 2006, 12:04 AM   #428
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That layout is the same one HKIA employs at the entrance to separate departures and arrivals. It's rather clever.
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Old November 9th, 2006, 03:32 AM   #429
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T3A interior update (by DFKJB, 6 Nov '06):

Check-In Hall @ Level 4:




Escalators & frames for lifts, from L4 to L3 (Domestic Departures):




Drop-off area to Check-In Hall:




Luggage Claim Hall @ L2:

Hugeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee terminal building!!
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Old November 9th, 2006, 05:04 AM   #430
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KEEP THEM COMING!! Oh btw that train terminal in the front looks somewhat like the incheon one, resemblance wise.
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Old November 10th, 2006, 06:50 AM   #431
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Old November 11th, 2006, 08:24 AM   #432
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An older picture, but it is a great size comparison to Terminals One & Two:


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Old November 11th, 2006, 12:08 PM   #433
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what surprises me is how close the new 3rd runway is to the existing, now middle one.
Are independent approaches possible there?
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Old November 11th, 2006, 11:00 PM   #434
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what surprises me is how close the new 3rd runway is to the existing, now middle one.
Are independent approaches possible there?
The new runway's centerline is exactly 5,000 feet from its closest neighbor. I am not familiar with CAAC regulations, but in the USA, AIM 5-4-16 requires 5,000 feet or more to operate simultaneous ILS approaches with more than two parallel runways.

So yes all three runways will be able to operate independently of each other in all weather conditions!

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Old November 13th, 2006, 11:12 AM   #435
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It would be cool if theres real satellite pics comparing HKIA, T3 and Bangkok's new airport side by side for size comparisons.
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Old November 14th, 2006, 05:15 AM   #436
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I'm just wondering how the light rail connects T2 and T3 as planned?

It's not likely there'll be a walking way before T2 and T3 since it's too far. I walked from T2 to T1 2 wks ago (look at the thin line between T2 and T1) it took me 10 minutes (with the help of conveyer belt) though it looks very short from the above photo.
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Old November 14th, 2006, 06:52 AM   #437
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It would be cool if theres real satellite pics comparing HKIA, T3 and Bangkok's new airport side by side for size comparisons.
As you wish...



In order from the top: Beijing, Hong Kong, Guangzhou, Seoul-Incheon, Shanghai-Pudong, Kuala Lumpur, Jakarta, Singapore. All were taken from the same altitude [5.00 km] so they should be fairly close to relative size. Sorry... Suvarnabhumi is still a low-res construction site on Google Earth.

Neat yes?


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Old November 14th, 2006, 07:07 AM   #438
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@ Mr. Fusion

Wow! Everything gets dwarfed by the Beijing one! Even Hong Kong's massive terminal is just roughly half of it!

OMG! Incheon looks small compared to the rest! Although, it is quite big in personal.

Jakarta's airport has a very beautiful design when viewed from an aerial (top-view) angle. It looks like a flower. Though, it's quite a depressing terminal at ground-level.
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Old November 14th, 2006, 07:46 AM   #439
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@ Mr. Fusion

The terminal size comparison is great! Thank you!
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Old November 14th, 2006, 05:17 PM   #440
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wow, thats huge
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